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NRA President shilling for gun banner Romney
AIPNews.com ^ | June 13, 2011 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 06/13/2011 11:52:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: PLMerite

Good. Conservatives should only contribute to very well vetted principled candidates and front line, ie local, conservative activism.


41 posted on 06/13/2011 12:35:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('We hold these truths to be self-evident...' Are you still part of that 'we'?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Gosh. If only that’s all it was.


42 posted on 06/13/2011 12:37:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('We hold these truths to be self-evident...' Are you still part of that 'we'?)
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To: ansel12

Being a retired Marine, I don’t have any problem with Mitt and his boys never serving in the military in a free society. I fought for their right to do that. The second amendment isn’t about the military anyways. There are plenty of strong supporters of the 2nd amendment who never served in the military. My beef with Mitt is not that he didn’t serve but that he’s a gun grabber.


43 posted on 06/13/2011 12:37:30 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Durus

Many of us NRA members are asking that Q. Perhaps because he did such a good job f’ing up the ACU, it was felt proper to give him a chance to do same to NRA?


44 posted on 06/13/2011 12:37:53 PM PDT by donozark (British Army, Fighting Proudly in Afghanistan-Since 1839)
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To: bwc2221

I’ll admit I’m wrong. Will you admit your an asshole?


45 posted on 06/13/2011 12:38:37 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Yeah, I don't see the NRA getting behind Romney.


46 posted on 06/13/2011 12:38:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The NRA is more concerned with keeping the gun rights issue alive and not ending it. It is about the money and keeping up with the Beltway crowd more than actually winning the gun rights issue.

The NRA activly attacked the Heller case in DC by attempting to discredit the Heller lawyers, with holding support and on several occasions the NRA Staff lawyers openly made statements the Heller case was “legally and judicially flawed”. The best part is the NRA filed an Ammicus Brief after the allowed time for submittal. Only after the case was “won” with out any active NRA support, the NRA co-opted the win. Just like any good Democrat instituion..... Look at Social Security..... The Demoncrats claim the Republicans are “stealing” it, when in fact history points to the Demoncrats are the real theifs.... So Saul Alinsky... just like the NRA when it comes to gun rights.


47 posted on 06/13/2011 12:40:24 PM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sarah Brady should have just run for NRA president. Who knew it was that easy for a RINO to get that spot?


48 posted on 06/13/2011 12:41:55 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: EternalVigilance

The NRA has done more for our second amendment rights than any other gun rights organization out there. No politican shakes in their boots because of their GOA rating. However, they fight tooth and nail (including Harry Reid) for their NRA rating. That tells you something of their power right there. McDonald happened because of the NRA. The 1986 gun bill happened because of the NRA and they were a prime force behind the Heller case also. While the GOA issues press releases nipping at the NRA’s heels like a toy poodle. The NRA fights for our freedoms.


49 posted on 06/13/2011 12:42:25 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Article10
"So Saul Alinsky... just like the NRA when it comes to gun rights."

Well, this is America. Everyone is allowed to have their own distorted version of the truth. I know this, without the NRA we would have lost most of our 2nd amendment freedoms long ago. The GOA would have issued a press release condemning it.
50 posted on 06/13/2011 12:46:16 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: EternalVigilance; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; ..

Perhaps someone here could call or email the NRA and tell them that Keene has to explain himself. I'd sure like to hear what he'd have to say.

51 posted on 06/13/2011 12:46:16 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Texas Fossil

And how many Freepers donate to this RINO organization which gave so much money to the Dumocrats? The NRA is a Dem org.


52 posted on 06/13/2011 12:48:18 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I do have a problem with Mitt avoiding military service while his father campaigned as the GOP antiwar Presidential candidate during a war, and then Mitt’s five sons, all military age, avoiding service while their father campaigned to be president during war.

When I found out that no Romney man has ever served our nation in uniform since they arrived here before the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. , well, I decided that this is more than a coincidence, this is a family whose agenda, includes not backing our nation for some private reasons that they have within their hidden relationship to the American people.

It doesn’t help that now Romney claims to have longed in many ways to serve in Vietnam .


53 posted on 06/13/2011 12:48:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"I know this, without the NRA we would have lost most of our 2nd amendment freedoms long ago."

Something I've been saying for many, many years, and something that is constantly overlooked or forgotten, unfortunately.

54 posted on 06/13/2011 12:49:58 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

If what you say is true, you could have corrected me without being a rude a$$hole.

I have been a lifetime member for what seems like forever. I’ve read several threads about how the NRA was endorsing Reid right here on FR.

Granted, I could have verified it one way or the other, but there were so many mentions by tenured FReepers it never occurred to me to bother to check. While I have been a paying member, I seldom read their stuff.... no particular, I just don’t.


55 posted on 06/13/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The truth is that it’s questionable that the legislation that started the gun control movement (1934 NFA) would have ever gone through without the NRA endorsement.


56 posted on 06/13/2011 12:51:27 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
they were a prime force behind the Heller case also.

If the NRA had been listened to, Heller would have never happened.

So, do you support the gun banner Mitt Romney?

57 posted on 06/13/2011 12:54:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('We hold these truths to be self-evident...' Are you still part of that 'we'?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Read my post 31 to Gator113 for the first assertion. As for the second one, the VP of the NRA talking about Mitt Romney does not automatically extend to the whole NRA. Don't cast aspersions on the NRA for one statemet by a VP. I'm not going to cast aspersions on FreeRepublic or think badly of them because a few freepers may be idiots, right? You should follow the same logic with the NRA.

Fair enough. So, I read the Newsmax.com interview with NRA president (not VP) David Keene. Although Keen doesn't state that his views are those of the NRA, the fact that he heads the gun owners organization and doesn't separate his comments from the NRA, implies that they do. This cannot be ignored. When a non-member of the NRA reads an interview with the new president of the organization and he rhapsodizes about Romney's attributes, that seems like a tacit, if not 'official' endorsement to me.

I don't wish to denigrate the NRA. However, if members like you disagree with what the president of your group is putting out there, you might want to make that known to him.

58 posted on 06/13/2011 12:54:40 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: EternalVigilance
CPAC [ = Obama Republicans] supports the Islamic invasion, CAIR, Mitt Romney and antiSemitism.


CPAC/ACU/CAIR is run by Al Cardenas/David Keene
involved in Palin-bashing and Romney-care polishing.

""Palin-bashing CPAC/ACU Chair donated $2,000 to Arlen Specter, endorsed Romney""

""Exclusive: Conservative group offers support for $2M"

""Palin rebuffs CPAC, Keene""

"Washington Insider David Keene Disses Governor Palin, Claims to Speak for Grassroots
"Keene's ACU also puts on the annual CPAC conference in Washington.

.In the last three years CPAC has devolved into nothing more than
an annual love fest for the most established of establishment
Republicans, Mitt Romney. It should come as no surprise that David
Keene supported Mitt Romney in 2008. "


"David Keene Endorses Romney"


"ACU President David Keene Endorses Romney
Long courted by Romney, Keene agreed to formalize his endorsement of
the former governor during a face to face meeting in Florida on
Tuesday, according to knowledgeable sources."


"David A. Keene (born May 20, 1945) is the current chairman of the American
Conservative Union, a position which he has held since 1984. Additionally, he is the
managing associate at the Carmen Group Lobbying, a lobbying firm based in
Washington, D.C. In December 2007, Keene endorsed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. "


"(at CPAC 2010, the) message there was that "real conservatives" don't support the war
on terror because it is a creation of the "Israeli lobby" - which coalesces with the left-
wing's new anti-Semitism against neoconservatives. Karen Kwiatkowski is a darling of
both the leftist Huffington Post and the anti-Semitic paleocon site Antiwar.com.


…is a board member of the ACU, and from the looks of CPAC's
covered topics and omission of discussion of jihad, it looks as if he exerts enormous
influence over David Keene, the ACU's nominal leader. Norquist and his ally Suhail
Khan seem to be in charge at CPAC - no CPAC event goes on that doesn't reflect their perspective. ….
Grover Norquist's troubling ties to Islamic supremacists and jihadists have been known
for years. He and his Palestinian wife, Samah Alrayyes, who was director of
communications for his Islamic Free Market Institute until they married in 2005, are very
active in "Muslim outreach." …..
It was Norquist who ushered these silver-tongued jihadists into the Oval Office after the
worst attack ever on American soil. ….
Grover Norquist was on the jihad payroll before and after the carnage and death of
September 11….
Norquist also introduced Nihad Awad, cofounder and executive director of the Council
on American-Islamic Relations, to President Bush. ….
It is no surprise that CPAC 2010, like CPAC 2009, had nothing addressing the war we
are actually engaged in. This is due to the influence of Norquist, Keene, and Suhail Khan,
a CPAC board member. According to Gaffney, Khan "has repeatedly been a featured
speaker at MSA, ISNA and CAIR events" - that is, Muslim Students Association, Islamic
Society of North America, and Council on American-Islamic Relations, three groups
linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, the international Islamic organization dedicated to
establishing the rule of Islamic law and the subjugation of infidels worldwide."



CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty - FR

CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty

59 posted on 06/13/2011 12:57:05 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: EternalVigilance

Heston is rolling over in his grave


60 posted on 06/13/2011 1:04:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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