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Rep. Michele Bachmann 'GMA' Interview (still won't criticize Romneycare)
ABC via youtube ^

Posted on 06/14/2011 5:43:32 PM PDT by teg_76

Tea Party favorite announces she's officially in the race for president at CNN's GOP debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bachmann; obamacare; palin; romney; romneywhore
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She was given several opportunities to criticize Romney and Romneycare. She passed. Seems to me she's running to be Romney's VP.

Who will have the spine to criticize Romney?

1 posted on 06/14/2011 5:43:41 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: teg_76

Certainly not someone who wants to be his VP.


2 posted on 06/14/2011 5:44:45 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: teg_76

Good, the Republicans don’t need to attack each other. They need to attack BO.


3 posted on 06/14/2011 5:45:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: teg_76

I can’t let go of the fact that only Sarah Palin is feared by the Marxists.

The Marxists, those cowards working to overthrow our Constitution and our way of life, fear only Sarah Palin among all contenders for the presidency.


4 posted on 06/14/2011 5:47:05 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Pray for Israel.)
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To: teg_76

If she did run as Romney’s VP, would the Tea Party supporters follow her?


5 posted on 06/14/2011 5:47:20 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: teg_76
Who will have the spine to criticize Romney?

Mark Levin spent the first 45 minutes or so of his show tonight talking about this very subject. He called most of the debate "superficial nonsense."

Levin understands (and said) that if sharp distinctions aren't drawn between the conservatives and the moderates, the best known and most well-funded candidate will win. That's Mitt Romney.

6 posted on 06/14/2011 5:48:15 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: teg_76

She certainly has a point. It is well within the power of individual states to behave in ways the rest of us might find offensive. If sanity were a requirement, we would have divested of California years ago.


7 posted on 06/14/2011 5:48:35 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: teg_76

Now is not the time form Republicans to attack eachother. As we get closer to the primaries, then you can put the light on Romney care. The Republicans right now need to all hammer away the Marxist record of Barack “Barry” Hussien Dunham-Soetero-0bama


8 posted on 06/14/2011 5:49:43 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: teg_76
She was given several opportunities to criticize ... Romneycare.

If she is angling for a Romney VP slot, why not criticize obomnycare.... She would be agreeing with Mitt, as Mitt criticizes obomneycare as well.

9 posted on 06/14/2011 5:50:00 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Rational Thought

Negative, Ghostrider. The pattern is full.


10 posted on 06/14/2011 5:51:07 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: driftdiver

No kidding. I’m tired of these mental midgets who are knowingly promoting a falsehood about Bachmann and Romney running together.

Romneycare is Massachusetts and Romney’s problem. Demanding that she denounce it is no different than the liberal “moderator” asking her how she would force states to obey her will if she were president.


11 posted on 06/14/2011 5:51:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: teg_76

(RINO GOP-backstabber and poser, Ms. Bachmann):
" Mission accomplished, Mitt."

12 posted on 06/14/2011 5:52:20 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: teg_76

“Who will have the spine to criticize Romney?”

I don’t know, but it is a prerequisite for my vote.


13 posted on 06/14/2011 5:54:05 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: driftdiver
Good, the Republicans don’t need to attack each other. They need to attack BO.

Romney is not a real Republican. If he gets the GOP nomination, then ODumbo will get relected because the Tea Party will run a third-party candidate. Thus, at this stage of the race, Bachman, Cain, and other conservatives need to beat the crap out Romney at every oppurunity.

14 posted on 06/14/2011 5:55:29 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Rational Thought

“If she did run as Romney’s VP, would the Tea Party supporters follow her?”

I would not, though I am more a Tea Party sympathizer than a supporter, if that makes sense.


15 posted on 06/14/2011 5:56:54 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Diogenesis

Kinda funny that you use a picture with a MaCain Palin sign in the background. LOL


16 posted on 06/14/2011 5:57:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Psalm 144

Bachmann SOUNDED good until she attacked Gov. Palin
through her hired assassin Rollins.

It is over for her despite
being Romney’s second (third?) wife.


17 posted on 06/14/2011 5:58:55 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: teg_76

It seems many forget one important thing about RomneyCare, It only affected one state, and left the other 49 states untouched. If you didn’t like it you could work to get the state to change the law, if that didn’t work you could move to a different state. In Mass that may not be many miles at all. That tenth amendment and individual states changes everything.


18 posted on 06/14/2011 5:59:13 PM PDT by RDasher ("El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather")
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To: cripplecreek
Not funny. Very serious.

"It is time for us to screw America up the a$$ again
for Soros, Obama, illegal aliens and Islam."

19 posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:19 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Labyrinthos

I don’t agree, especially on Romneycare. That is the one issue that BO can beat the Republicans on.

The Dems are trying to pick the battle ground. I say the GOP should choose where and which battles to fight.


20 posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: teg_76

Anyone here from Romney’s area? How’s that RomneyCare going for you?

I’ve never heard what anyone who is actually in it say.


21 posted on 06/14/2011 6:01:25 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: RDasher
So you are a RomneyBOT who prefers SLAVERY?

"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism
or socialism on people has been by way of medicine..."

President Ronald Reagan

Death Panels imposed by Mitt Romney (ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE).



22 posted on 06/14/2011 6:01:46 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Diogenesis

“Bachmann SOUNDED good until she attacked Gov. Palin
through her hired assassin Rollins.”

Agreed. Check my tagline. I -always- watch their hands.


23 posted on 06/14/2011 6:02:00 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: RDasher

The important point is that ROMNEY backed Romneycare and now he wants to be President. No way. He also believes in globull warming. Oh! And homosexual rights. ALL conservatives should be focused on comparing Romney to Obama. Romney is Bam lite.


24 posted on 06/14/2011 6:03:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
What a good question:
HOW IS ROMNEYCARE DOING?


Emergency room visits grow in Mass. New insurance law did not reduce number of users
The number of people visiting hospital emergency rooms has climbed in Massachusetts,
despite the enactment of nearly universal health insurance that some hoped would reduce expensive emergency department use."


Back to the ObamaCare Future (price controls in Massachusetts)
Natural experiments are rare in politics, but few are as instructive as the prototype for
ObamaCare that Massachusetts set in motion in 2006.
Last month, Democratic Governor Deval Patrick landed a neutron bomb, proposing hard
price controls across almost all Massachusetts health care. State regulators already have
the power to cap insurance premiums, which Mr. Patrick is activating. He also filed a bill
that would give state regulators the power to review the rates of hospitals, physician
groups and some specialty providers.

It doesn't even count as an irony that former Governor Mitt Romney (like President Obama) sold this plan as a way to control spending"


"The Huge Middle Class Tax Increase Coming Our Way With ObamaCare
The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, warns today on the effect ObamaCare
will have on our economy and health care. These facts should be painfully obvious to
those with even one iota of common sense. This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:
Remember when health-care reform was supposed to make life better for the middle
class? That dream began to unravel this past summer when Congress proposed a bill that
failed to include any competition-based reforms that would actually bend the curve of
health-care costs. It fell apart completely when Democrats began papering over the
gaping holes their plan would rip in the federal budget.

As it now stands, the plan proposed by Democrats and the Obama administration would
not only fail to reduce the cost burden on middle-class families, it would make that burden significantly worse.

The bill creates a new health entitlement program that the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) estimates will grow over the longer term at a rate of 8% annually, which is much
faster than the growth rate of the economy or tax revenues. This is the same growth rate
as the House bill that Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) deep-sixed by asking the CBO to tell
the truth about its impact on health-care costs.

To avoid the fate of the House bill and achieve a veneer of fiscal sensibility, the Senate
did three things: It omitted inconvenient truths, it promised that future Congresses will
make tough choices to slow entitlement spending, and it dropped the hammer on the middle class.

One inconvenient truth is the fact that Congress will not allow doctors to suffer a 24% cut in their Medicare reimbursements. "


"DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
In August Sarah Palin wrote extensively about the incredible danger that ObamaCare
would lead to what amounts to "death panels." This of course caused great controversy
with many claiming Palin was either "crazy" or talking about the "end of life"
discussions that were provided for within House Resolution 3200, the prototype
ObamaCare bill.
As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan
that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is
dropping, and we're saying not just no, but hell no!

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of
health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care
will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the
most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The
America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down
Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can
decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether
they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. .
Now we have news from Massachusetts, the home of RomneyCare, which should be
looked at as a shining example of why ObamaCare will be an epic failure. Soaring costs
both to the taxpayers and patients was inevitable, and now the effects of these are coming home to roost.
You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way,"


"You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.

The state's ambitious plan to shake up how providers are paid could have a hidden price
for patients: Controlling Massachusetts' soaring medical costs, many health care leaders
believe, may require residents to give up their nearly unlimited freedom to go to any
hospital and specialist they want.

Efforts to keep patients in a defined provider network, or direct them to lower-cost
hospitals could be unpopular, especially in a state where more than 40 percent of hospital
care is provided in expensive academic medical centers and where many insurance
policies allow patients access to large numbers of providers. ."


"State plan may place limits on patients' hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )"


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
My husband retired from IBM about a decade ago, and as we aren't old enough for
Medicare we still buy our health insurance through the company. But IBM, with its
typical courtesy, informed us recently that we will be fined by the state.
Why? Because Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
My husband's response was muted; I was shaking mad. We hadn't imposed our health-
care costs on anyone else, yet we were being fined ("taxed" was the word the letter used).

We've spent much of our lives putting away what money we could for retirement. We
always intended to be self-sufficient. We've paid off the mortgage on our home, don't
carry credit-card debt, and have savings in case of an emergency. We also have a regular
monthly income of about $3,000, which includes an IBM pension. My husband, 61, earns
a little money on the side, sometimes working as an electronics consultant on renewable
energy projects. I'm 58 and make some money writing science books. We are not
wealthy, but we aren't a risk of becoming a burden on society either. How did we become outlaws? "


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
"Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]
"The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. - 2009-03-31 "
"For folks increasingly leery of President Obama's plan to radically overhaul America's health-care system,
or 17 percent of the nation's economy, all this could hardly have come at a better time -
that is, fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney's brainchild, Massachusetts' "grand experiment" in "universal" health care."

"Initiated on Mr. Romney's gubernatorial watch in 2006, this "experiment" has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
"RomneyCare" is threatening to bankrupt the state. Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million,
or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,
has caused Massachusetts' overall expenditures on all health-related programs to jump an astounding 42 percent since 2006.

So what does Mr. Romney's successor, Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick, propose as a remedy for these skyrocketing costs?
Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) - price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage.
As in Europe and Canada, so too in Massachusetts. And, we feel certain, everyone from Mr. Romney to Mr. Patrick said, "It would never happen here."
But then, such things are inevitable when best-laid plans, with all their monstrous costs, run smack-dab into fiscal reality.


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Sedalia, Colo. - In his recent speech to Congress, President Obama could have promoted
healthcare reforms that tapped the power of a truly free market to lower costs and
improve access. Instead, he chose to offer a national version of the failing
"Massachusetts plan" based on mandatory health insurance. This is a recipe for disaster.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite -
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care.

Under any system of mandatory insurance, the government must necessarily define what
constitutes acceptable insurance. In Massachusetts, this has created a giant magnet for
special interest groups seeking to have their own pet benefits included in the required
package. Massachusetts residents are thus forced to purchase benefits they may neither
need nor want, such as in vitro fertilization, chiropractor services, and autism treatment -
raising insurance costs for everyone to reward a few with sufficient political "pull."

Although similar problems exist in other states, Massachusetts' system of mandatory
insurance delivers the entire state population to the special interests. ."


"'Severe' doc shortage seen hiking wait time The Boston Herald ^ | 9/15/09 | Christine McConville As the state's shortage of primary care doctors grows, people are waiting longer for medical care, according to a new survey by the Massachusetts Medical Society. "The shortage is getting more severe," said Dr. Mario Motta, the medical society's president. The state's health care dilemma can serve as a valuable lesson for a nation whose residents are locked in a frenzied debate about health care reform, he added."


"Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state's major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
The higher insurance costs undermine a key tenet of the state's landmark health care law
passed two years ago, as well as President Obama's effort to overhaul health care. In
addition to mandating insurance for most residents, the Massachusetts bill sought to rein
in health care costs. With Washington looking to the Massachusetts experience, fears
about higher costs have become a stumbling block to passing a national health care bill."


"Nation's ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat.

Both papers reported that our Commonwealth Care reform isn't working as planned. A
new law that was supposed to control costs and drive prices down (sound familiar?) has
instead sent costs soaring. "



"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state's challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
after passage of a landmark 2006 law that mandated coverage for nearly everyone...
The report by the Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit health care foundation,
showed that the average family premium for plans offered by employers in Massachusetts was $13,788 in 2008,
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare
Cato Institute looks a little farther down the coast to Massachusetts, where the state began its own health-care reform complete
with individual mandates and a government plan.
Cato calls it an "almost perfect" mirror of ObamaCare, complete with promises of reducing cost and extending care - that failed in both respects:
Massachusetts shows that such a mandate would oust millions from their low-cost health plans and force them to pay higher premiums. …


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
"If you are curious about how President Barack Obama's health plan would affect your health care, look no farther than Massachusetts.
In 2006, the Bay State enacted a slate of reforms that almost perfectly mirror the plan of Obama and congressional Democrats.
.... Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average
in part because Massachusetts' individual mandate has effectively outlawed affordable health plans.
"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state's marquee universal health care program afloat financially.

The July 16 recommendations, the Boston Globe explained, would result in a situation where "patients could find it harder to get procedures they want but are of questionable benefit if doctors are operating within a budget.
And they might find it more difficult to get care wherever they want, if primary doctors push to keep patients within their accountable care organization."
The Globe stressed that the recommendations would "dramatically change how doctors and hospitals are paid, essentially putting providers on a budget as a way to control exploding healthcare costs and improve the quality of care."
"Budget" is a more politically acceptable word for rationing.
The Globe also noted that "consumer advocates said patients are going to have to be educated about the new system." Yes, apparently they will have to get used to having their healthcare rationed.


"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
When Governor Mitt Romney instituted a universal healthcare plan for Massachusetts in 2006 he proclaimed it a conservative idea.
But has it worked? Has it been successful?
For a time, many thought it might but cracks in the system are already being seen.
These cracks are instructive as a lesson on how Obamacare will crash and burn just like Romneycare is now in the process of doing.

One of the early claims that helped push Romneycare through to law was the insistence by its supporters that Emergency Room visits would fall as more and more citizens became covered under healthcare insurance.
Since ER care is far more expensive than a doctor's care, it was thought that more people with insurance would ease the overcrowding of ERs as well as lower the overall costs of healthcare.
However, a flaw in this logic has been seen throughout the state. As more people became insured, more people demanded the care of doctors. These doctors became overloaded with patients and waiting lists for doctors got longer and longer.
As a result, ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
"Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

0What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]
"The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. - 2009-03-31 "
"For folks increasingly leery of President Obama's plan to radically overhaul America's health-care system,
or 17 percent of the nation's economy, all this could hardly have come at a better time -
that is, fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney's brainchild, Massachusetts' "grand experiment" in "universal" health care."

"Initiated on Mr. Romney's gubernatorial watch in 2006, this "experiment" has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
"RomneyCare" is threatening to bankrupt the state. Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million,
or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,
has caused Massachusetts' overall expenditures on all health-related programs to jump an astounding 42 percent since 2006.

So what does Mr. Romney's successor, Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick, propose as a remedy for these skyrocketing costs?
Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) - price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage.
As in Europe and Canada, so too in Massachusetts. And, we feel certain, everyone from Mr. Romney to Mr. Patrick said, "It would never happen here."
But then, such things are inevitable when best-laid plans, with all their monstrous costs, run smack-dab into fiscal reality.

25 posted on 06/14/2011 6:04:19 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yep. No Romney anything!


26 posted on 06/14/2011 6:05:08 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“Anyone here from Romney’s area? How’s that RomneyCare going for you?

I’ve never heard what anyone who is actually in it say.”

I’ve seen such posts from people claiming to be there. No complaints about the level of care, which remains high, but significantly higher premiums. This is from two or three anecdotal sources her on FR. I am sure some will weigh in.


27 posted on 06/14/2011 6:06:42 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Diogenesis

GULP!


28 posted on 06/14/2011 6:08:13 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: Diogenesis

That’s a crock. But thanks for your opinion.


29 posted on 06/14/2011 6:10:39 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Absolutely!


30 posted on 06/14/2011 6:10:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: cripplecreek
Romneycare is Massachusetts and Romney’s problem. Demanding that she denounce it is no different than the liberal “moderator” asking her how she would force states to obey her will if she were president.

The Bachmann campaign gave its negative opinion about Palin and her shortened term as governor. The Bachmann doesn't give its opinion when asked about Mitt and Romneycare when he was governor.

It's an inconsistency.

Posters are correct to bring that up.

31 posted on 06/14/2011 6:10:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DJ MacWoW

Would you have that quote by Gov. Palin and mandates. I don’t have it at the tip of my fingers right now.

Gov. Palin said everything that needed to be said about mandates in one quote.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a federal or state mandate it still cohesion by the state to force you to do something against your will.


32 posted on 06/14/2011 6:12:25 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Clyde5445; RedMDer
Would you have that quote by Gov. Palin and mandates.

No. I don't. Wait, This one?

“However, even on a state level and even a local level, mandates coming from a governing body, it’s tough for a lot of us independent Americans to accept, because we have great faith in the private sectors and our own families … and our own businessmen and women making decisions for ourselves. Not any level of government telling us what to do.”

33 posted on 06/14/2011 6:16:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: teg_76

FReepers can be just a wee reactionary, but I can’t remember any time a darling of conservatism was thrown under the bus with such vigor. You’d think she’d climbed up on Reagan’s tomb and burned a copy of the constitution.


34 posted on 06/14/2011 6:17:39 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes that it. Gov. Palin says alot in these few words. She was also critical of R’care at the same time.


35 posted on 06/14/2011 6:20:18 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Clyde5445

Yes. And it wasn’t an overt slam. It was simply the truth.


36 posted on 06/14/2011 6:22:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: teg_76

Mini-me TPaw and Michele are running be become Romney’s VP. TPaw thinks he has it in the bag especially after last night.

Sarah is the one to beat.


37 posted on 06/14/2011 6:23:25 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Pan_Yan
I can’t remember any time a darling of conservatism was thrown under the bus with such vigor.

The Bachmann campaign and Rollins with no retraction from Bachmann, about Palin, several days ago.

38 posted on 06/14/2011 6:24:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DJ MacWoW

That what frustrating some can’t get it through their heads it doesn’t matter if its a state or federal mandate. It a philosophical principle at it core.


39 posted on 06/14/2011 6:26:50 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Pan_Yan

The reaction could possibly be due to the high hopes we had for Michele. She seemed to be one of us. To see her co-opted by the party hacks so quickly is quite disheartening.


40 posted on 06/14/2011 6:27:24 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Diogenesis

I can see we have volunteers for the circular firing squad. From her lack of an answer, I can see she’s not stupid enough to start a distracting battle.


41 posted on 06/14/2011 6:30:24 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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I can see we have volunteers for the circular firing squad. From her lack of an answer, I can see she’s not stupid enough to start a distracting battle.

Gee, what campaign started a distracting battle several days ago and what campaing still hasn't owned up to it?

42 posted on 06/14/2011 6:40:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Clyde5445

Yep. Exactly right.


43 posted on 06/14/2011 6:40:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: teg_76
There is a valid Tenth Amendment argument for RomneyCare.

I know MR is anathema to FR over a variety of issues...but Constitutionally speaking, there is a HUGE difference between a state versus federal statute.

Right now, I'm leaning to T-Paw or Herman Cain, but I haven't settled....I want to hear more.

44 posted on 06/14/2011 6:43:14 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: ElectronVolt

Excuse me but Bachmann will let her hired flunky throw firebombs at Palin but she won’t touch Romney? There’s something VERY wrong with this picture.


45 posted on 06/14/2011 6:45:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Cain for me.

Saw Pawlenty of the Fox Sunday show.
Pawlenty said he wanted to represent “all” of the GOP not just the tea party.

I couldn’t vote for Pawlenty


46 posted on 06/14/2011 6:46:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Recovering_Democrat
.but Constitutionally speaking, there is a HUGE difference between a state versus federal statute.

No there's not. ANY government body that ORDERS citizens to buy or pay for government healthcare has stepped over the line. WAY over.

47 posted on 06/14/2011 6:49:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The Tenth Amendment gives powers not delegated to the federal government to the "states or to the people". In other words, it is up to the states and the people of those states to decide. Like it or not, some states have really really really stupid laws.

This is the "laboratory" idea spoken about by so many people, and now you hear the current candidates repeating it. Look, if Massachusetts wants to inflict some ridiculous law, that is the right of the people of that state....same for Florida or Rhode Island or Hawaii.

This is what gives Americans the FREEDOM to move around and choose where they live.

48 posted on 06/14/2011 6:58:10 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
it is up to the states and the people of those states to decide.

The "people" didn't decide. Government TOLD them and THAT is the point. Government can be over-reaching whether federal, state or local. It is socialism at ANY level, NOT freedom.

49 posted on 06/14/2011 7:03:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Looks like the romneybots are out in force today trying to destroy the winner of last nights debate


50 posted on 06/14/2011 7:11:57 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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