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Rep. Michele Bachmann 'GMA' Interview (still won't criticize Romneycare)
ABC via youtube ^

Posted on 06/14/2011 5:43:32 PM PDT by teg_76

Tea Party favorite announces she's officially in the race for president at CNN's GOP debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bachmann; obamacare; palin; romney; romneywhore
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To: wilco200

I have seen a few Romneybots but they aren’t being overt.


51 posted on 06/14/2011 7:18:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Rational Thought
If she did run as Romney’s VP, would the Tea Party supporters follow her?

If they stay home or vote rat, maybe they will burn American flags at their next TEA Party rally instead of wrapping themselves in them.

52 posted on 06/14/2011 7:40:19 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hmmm. Maybe she IS running for VP. After all, Romney would be one of our oldest presidents to ever be elected if he wins. Which I don’t think he would.


53 posted on 06/14/2011 7:43:11 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat

Well I won’t ascribe to Bachmann any intention that can’t be proven. But there certainly is a disparity in how Palin and Romney are treated by the Bachmann camp lately.


55 posted on 06/14/2011 7:54:13 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I’m a Cain man unless Palin jumps in...


56 posted on 06/14/2011 8:32:45 PM PDT by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: teg_76

The economy is in shambles, unemployment is sky high, high gas prices, multiple wars, terrorism, TSA and the Liberals number 1 concern is gay marriage.

Yes Liberalism is a mental disorder.


57 posted on 06/14/2011 8:53:59 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: DJ MacWoW

I agree on the overreaching point. But the PEOPLE of a particular state have the choice whether to tolerate a perceived overeach. Plenty in Massachusetts apparently are willing to endure RomneyCare.


58 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:15 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
But the PEOPLE of a particular state have the choice whether to tolerate a perceived overeach.

Riiiiiiiiight. In your last post you suggested that people move if they don't like having a socialist government. That's acquiescence to a loss of freedom. And it doesn't fly with REAL conservatives. Neither does selling your house, finding another job and moving.

You are bending over backwards to defend Romney and socialism. Why.

59 posted on 06/15/2011 4:19:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: teg_76

This does no good for Romney should he make it to a general election and this issue will most assuredly come up. The media’s just waiting for all of them. That’s why I’m for Palin entering. Bachmann has not been put through what Palin has and they are all running with a disadvantage with the target waiting for them as the public learns about them. And Bachmann has lost me with the Rollins debacle and this type of BS refusing to warn of what challenge Romney will get if he is the one against 0bama.


60 posted on 06/15/2011 5:08:47 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded (Palin 2012)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I am defending federalism and the ninth and tenth amendments.


61 posted on 06/15/2011 5:22:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

No you’re not. You’re making excuses for government to be allowed to become socialist. You’re saying if people don’t like it they should move. That’s outrageous.


62 posted on 06/15/2011 5:30:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: teg_76

patience is in order. It is too soon to fire the big guns.


63 posted on 06/15/2011 5:34:29 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Diogenesis

Not at all. I am just saying that states can do things that the federal government can not do. And Mass did it. Is it good, not likely, but it is a lot easier to change a state law than a federal one.


64 posted on 06/15/2011 8:14:59 AM PDT by RDasher ("El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather")
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To: DJ MacWoW

You seem fixated on the “moving” aspect, like it is some sort of horrible sin to mention this as a truth of federalism. Yet it is a strength of the federalist design. Of course, one can work to CHANGE a state’s system too. That is another course.

Moving, though, is another way of voting. With your feet. Businesses and people are doing it by the millions. They’re leaving California and New York for states with better laws. (see: Texas and Florida)

Why do you hate the Tenth Amendment? Should it be repealed?

What you seem to not understand is that there are different laws in the various states because the people of the different states WANT there to be different laws.

The people of each state are represented by a Republican form of government, as required by the Constitution (see: Article IV, Section 4).

Unless one is prepared to argue Massachusetts (or California or New York) does NOT have a “Republican” form of government (an extraordinary view indeed, as it has not been seriously espoused by any reasonable commentator on either side of the political spectrum), then the distaste one has for a law really can’t be based on the notion that the PEOPLE of the state are powerless to change said law.

If someone is in a state entrenched in policies that unfairly take or re-distribute wealth, you can work to change it, endure it, or leave. America is a great place in that regard.


65 posted on 06/15/2011 2:19:31 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

And you seem prone to excusing socialism.


66 posted on 06/15/2011 4:19:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You haven’t addressed the constitutional issue at the heart of the disagreement. All you’ve done is accuse me of, essentially, being socialist.

You are wrong.


67 posted on 06/15/2011 5:40:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
You have strayed far from the original post. No government, federal, state or local, should have such control over peoples choices. YOU believe they should just uproot their lives to escape a tyrannical, socialist government. That is not a conservative ideal.

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

68 posted on 06/15/2011 5:54:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

George Washington signed onto the Constitution, which embodied the federalist notions I’ve been defending.

You caricature my argument by saying I defend tyranny. I embrace instead the idea that unpopular laws can be fixed by the people of the state or the people of the state who disagree can leave. I’ve even given examples, contemporary ones even, of those states. You’ve engaged in ad hominems.

We’re done. If you want to try and make yourself feel better by getting in one last name-calling post, go ahead. Your ego will be massaged, since I won’t respond, and you can think you’ve really zinged me good. :)

Afterward, I suggest you do a good study of dual and cooperative federalism before you try to negate the Tenth Amendment by railing against those of us who defend the same.

Eventually you should read the Federalist Papers, the contemporary commentary of the Constitution, which says the powers to states are far more numerous than the federal government. The Federalist Papers did not embrace tyranny either—they merely taught that the Constitution gives great leeway to the states that it PROHIBITS the national government from exercising.

I find it sad you are unable or unwilling to grasp that concept.

Good night.


69 posted on 06/15/2011 6:50:13 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
You’ve engaged in ad hominems.

Define ad hominems

1. appealing to emotions: appealing to people's emotions and prejudices instead of their ability to think

Oh yeah. Refusing to accept that government has a right to force people to get healthcare and quoting Washington is an "ad hominem" all right. LOL

We are most certainly done.

70 posted on 06/15/2011 7:13:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: teg_76
Relax everyone...she has already critized Romneycare. MSM was just trying to bait her. She is smart to critize him at the time and place of HER choosing.

Bachmann on Romneycare

71 posted on 06/17/2011 1:40:27 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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