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Why Canít I Connect With Michele Bachmann? (Vanity)
June 16, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 06/16/2011 5:26:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Michele Bachmann should have me ringing doorbells and doing conservative flips to get her elected but she isn’t and I don’t know why.

She looks great on paper. She expresses conservatism clearly. She understands the dire situation we’re in and the remedies. She’s energetic and pleasant. She goes after the agent of our destruction. She can debate. She is attractive. She has a compelling life story.

So what’s wrong?

When Michele Bachmann is on TV or radio, or I read her words in print, she has my attention and I agree with her but as soon as she’s off the air or I move to another story, she’s lost to my mind.

I can’t be the only one who has this Michele Bachmann “condition.” This bothers me because TURNOUT will be what decides this election. TURNOUT will bring us a bullet proof Senate. TURNOUT will keep Democrat voter fraud from giving Obama 4 more years. TURNOUT will bring more states under GOP control. We need a standard bearer candidate that Americans will rally behind in earnest -- TURN OUT!

The roster of GOP candidates is varied and I will vote for the one who wins the primary. I don’t think Romney has “it.” I know Newt won’t make the grade, again – can’t. Huntsman – phewt. Ron Paul – keeps our feet to the fire but won’t beat Obama. Santorum – he had me once but now he just seems to be saying his lines. Pawlenty – I keep working on remembering that he’s in the race. Cain – another conservative voice of sanity but won’t beat Obama.

Two candidates not yet on the list – Sarah Palin and Rick Perry – they make me want to campaign for their election! They fire me up! I see them as carrying the flag and rallying the great silent majority of voters. They have “it” in spades. I want to win back the White House! Obama must go!

So what is it? I’ve tried to figure this out logically but I keep hitting an emotional wall.

Does Michele Bachmann’s energy belong in the legislature and not the executive? (Something I see as Newt’s problem (among others) – he played a big part in orchestrating the 1994 takeover, then let it wilt away – he’s not executive material, but rather a good back-bench workhorse).

I’d like your thoughts.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bachmann; bachmann2012; election; politics
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1 posted on 06/16/2011 5:26:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She’s not Sarah.


2 posted on 06/16/2011 5:30:02 AM PDT by gramho12
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Maybe, subconsciously, you think it's a job for a man?
3 posted on 06/16/2011 5:30:42 AM PDT by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wait til the lefty media machine really gets cranked up and you will become hooked.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 5:31:53 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bachmann was an incredible contender .... until
Rollins for Romney finished her off.

With her attack on Gov. Palin, and keeping on Rollins
her contendership plummeted.


5 posted on 06/16/2011 5:32:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Michelle Bachmann is the girl who has made it clear she wants to go to the prom with YOU, but your heart is holding out, waiting to see if you will be able to convince that OTHER GIRL to go.


6 posted on 06/16/2011 5:32:24 AM PDT by RightFighter (Now back to my war station.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perhaps the problem lies with you.
7 posted on 06/16/2011 5:32:31 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not enthused over her voting record, not that it’s horrible in comparison to some of the other candidates.


8 posted on 06/16/2011 5:32:38 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think your problem is not Michelle Bachman. You’re like the person who’s out on a date with someone, then see’s another more attractive person in the restaurant that you’d much rather be with. You have wandering eyes. Those eyes are wandering towards Sarah or Rick Perry. Except that neither of those two are available.


9 posted on 06/16/2011 5:33:11 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When you figure it out, let me know.
I feel the exact same way- she says all the right things, but there's just something about her that just keeps me cautious and luke warm about her.
10 posted on 06/16/2011 5:33:37 AM PDT by sillsfan (Reagan and Sarah are right- WE win, they lose!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good Post. Im seeing a struggle within FR about Bachmann and Palin esp. Im like you, I dont feel the passion for Bachmann as I do Palin. I cant quite put my finger on it quite yet. Maybe Ive been so invested in Palin and Michelle coming in and “dissing” her has really pissed me off. Im looking forward to reading other opinions on this....


11 posted on 06/16/2011 5:34:09 AM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Diogenesis

“Bachmann was an incredible contender .... until
Rollins for Romney finished her off.”

My thoughts as well. Now she can go pee up a rope as far as I’m concerned.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 5:35:09 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The old “You like her BUT....”

You are obviously a troll who only came here to...

OOOOps, this isn’t about Palin, sorry. We only do that to long time posters who dare to question Palin.-LOL

Glad to see Im not alone. I have the exact same feelings about Bachman. Just can’t get excited about her for President. I’m more excited about Palin but (AHHHAAA-there it is-—a BUT!!! Im obviously a troll!) I honestly don’t think she has what it takes to win the presidency.


13 posted on 06/16/2011 5:35:18 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm right there with you. I think too many people get lost in the minutia of candidates who look good on paper and fail to look at them as a "total package" candidate.

Bachmann says the right things. She has the right positions. But she does not convince me that she can deliver on them. With no executive experience, no major legislative accomplishments, no real signs of leading anything... it's hard to see why I should consider her capable of the Presidency.

She also comes across -- to me -- as a rank opportunist. A back-bencher who is trying to translate her popularity with TEA party folks into somehow being their leader. I think other candidates (or potential candidates) such as Cain and Palin take a better approach in appealing to the TEA party but not presuming to speak for it. Now, granted, this is entirely subjective -- I'm quite sure that others do not believe the same, and they're entitled to their opinions. But so am I.

14 posted on 06/16/2011 5:38:22 AM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: sillsfan

She doesn’t seem like a leader to me; she’s a follower and that turns me off.

We need someone who can truly lead now more than ever.

She can’t...

The Mrs


15 posted on 06/16/2011 5:39:03 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gravitas? I love to hate that word but she just doesn’t seem to have the “weight” that some others do.


16 posted on 06/16/2011 5:39:30 AM PDT by AT7Saluki (No cejar, no ceder)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bachmann is running for the VP slot. Has nothing to do with core conservative convictions.

She will treat Romney with kid gloves in the hope that he picks her as his running mate if he (God forbid) gets the GOP nomination.

That’s why I don’t trust her. Your experience may vary.


17 posted on 06/16/2011 5:41:17 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Barack was Mohammed's horse. Obama is a horse's back side.)
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To: verity; Cincinatus' Wife
Perhaps the problem lies with you.

Not likely. If a candidate cannot even stir their own "side" the problem is theirs.

18 posted on 06/16/2011 5:41:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: AT7Saluki

Here we go again. Another thread where the Palin or Nothing crowd endlessly trash Bachmann while Palin has not even decided to run for POTUS. Yawn.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 5:41:57 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know a whole lot more about Sarah Palin by thanks of the MSM trying to destroy her for the last couple of years, that alone gives her a better resume.

And its just like that, I see a resume from Michell and Sarah, and Sarah has a lot more dedication, perseverance, and commitment to duties.

And I hire people on an almost daily basis, some decisions come from what a person has fought and won. And or has survived, which is why I would hire a veteran first.


20 posted on 06/16/2011 5:42:20 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Maybe it’s the long odds House members face trying to get elected president. Who was the last member of the House of Representatives to get elected president? I think it was Garfield in 1880.


21 posted on 06/16/2011 5:43:11 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She’s a House Representative. Big deal.

Let her accomplish something. Then run for Pres.


22 posted on 06/16/2011 5:43:23 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and I did not speak out because I am not Sarah Palin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bachmann doesn’t impress me as a forceful leader.


23 posted on 06/16/2011 5:44:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I like Bachman too. However, the battle that has to be fought in the near future is going to be a vicious, bloody, mud-slinging battle and Michelle seems not to have that attack feature in her personality.

This is it! Our last chance to reclaim our country and it’s values and heritage. The candidate we choose has to be as hard as steel and totally uncompromising in their values along with an extremely aggressive mannerism. This is all out war!

Bachman is highly intelligent and focused on the pecuniary problems of our country but lacks the “junk yard attack dog” personality that will be required for the upcoming battle.

With that said, she would make a great Vice-President.


24 posted on 06/16/2011 5:45:36 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

Bachman =Bachmann!

Wow! Too much coffee this morning........


25 posted on 06/16/2011 5:46:33 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Palin or Nothing crowd.... I like the sound of that.


26 posted on 06/16/2011 5:46:41 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
She's a great congress critter, I like her, just prefer a couple of others over her.

Congresscritters don't become nominees fwiw. They just don't (a lot have tried) and there's a reason for that.

27 posted on 06/16/2011 5:46:54 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Really? Its a discussion, geez.....


28 posted on 06/16/2011 5:47:11 AM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I also picture a scenario like this, who would I trust to hold a shotgun to defend my family from a Grizzly bear lurking in the brush?

Mz. Pretty Smiling face, or mama Grizzly herself?


29 posted on 06/16/2011 5:47:20 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; xzins

The idea that we should elect our leaders based on how they perform in debates is really a stupid idea. Leadership is not the ability to articulate a position or spin the language to make your ideas more palatable to itchy ears. Leadership is a quality that is both rare and hard to define.

Grace under pressure and the ability to fight on in the face of defeat are at least a couple of the marks of a true leader. Nobody running in this election has faced more adversity with grace than Sarah Palin has. She inspires me like no other candidate since Reagan. She continues to rise from the ashes of defeat.

Even in the face of a media blitz that has inspired death threat against her and her children, her infective smile is clealy genuine.

America needs a true leader and not an eloquent debater to lead us out of the quagmire and back to our place as the shining city on a hill. IMO Sarah Palin is the only person running right now that can can lead us up that path.


30 posted on 06/16/2011 5:47:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: gramho12

Bingo.


31 posted on 06/16/2011 5:47:36 AM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One name and one reason : Ed Rollins
32 posted on 06/16/2011 5:47:51 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sarah has been getting the attention but it’s really Michele who would make the best President in my mind. (Not that I wouldn’t want to see Sarah elected either.) One should recall it was Michele Bachmann that called for the big Tea Party rally on the mall on 9/12. Compared to any Republican man running today, I’d go with Michele.

This election won’t be on ideology or personality. It will be on the economy. Obama will lose but to whom? It’s important the conservatives get the right person in.


33 posted on 06/16/2011 5:48:19 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One name and one reason for your reluctance : Ed Rollins.
34 posted on 06/16/2011 5:48:22 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: DH
However, the battle that has to be fought in the near future is going to be a vicious, bloody, mud-slinging battle and Michelle seems not to have that attack feature in her personality.

I don't think she has the attack feature either and I don't think she can withstand the attacks. Not saying she has skeletons in her closet, but I really don't think if they gave her the "Palin treatment" she would survive. Just my opinion.

35 posted on 06/16/2011 5:49:17 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

36 posted on 06/16/2011 5:49:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

IMO, it comes down to this. Bachmann had developed over the past two years into a spectacular leader of the conservative movement. She has become extremely disciplined. Problem for many of us in the conservative movement is that we strongly favor executive experience where leadership and decision making skills are on full display. Bachmann is relatively new to the scene and does not have that background. She is new enough and outside the ‘establishment’ that she hasn’t even gotten on the leadership track in the House. This gives me pause in supporting her. I’d rather see so done who has held a similar role in either the public or private sector.


37 posted on 06/16/2011 5:49:24 AM PDT by ilgipper ( political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
RE :”She looks great on paper. She expresses conservatism clearly. She understands the dire situation we’re in and the remedies. She’s energetic and pleasant. She goes after the agent of our destruction. She can debate. She is attractive. She has a compelling life story. So what’s wrong? When Michele Bachmann is on TV or radio, or I read her words in print, she has my attention and I agree with her but as soon as she’s off the air or I move to another story, she’s lost to my mind. ...
Two candidates not yet on the list – Sarah Palin and Rick Perry – they make me want to campaign for their election! They fire me up! I see them as carrying the flag and rallying the great silent majority of voters. They have “it” in spades. I want to win back the White House! Obama must go!

Maybe they fire you up so much because they are not candidates, you want what you cant have... the grass always looks greener.... Bachmann has stepped up to the plate and is doing a good job there, give her credit for that.

Who is this silent majority you are thinking of that all feel like you? (Palin or Perry) How many states will they be able to win in 2012 that Bachmann wouldnt?

38 posted on 06/16/2011 5:50:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sillsfan

Let me take a stab at it.

She appears to say the right things. She behaves as though she believes them...smaller, limited gov’t, free markets, etc.

But then we learn she is in favor of ethanol & other crop subsidies (!), and learn that her husband’s practice also accepts taxpayer subsidies. Subsidies like this are anathema to the whole TP movement and yet she’s on record as taking advantage of them and for keeping them. Not quite on par with Obama’s crony capitalism, but a little unsettling, nevertheless.

I almost fell off my chair Tuesday night when Brit Hume was on Freedom Watch said there were very few policy differences between Romney and Bachmann. ugh

Finally, her judgment deserves to be in question when she hired the tired hack Rollins, who attacked the candidate whose voters she most needs to covet...Palin’s. A person that cannot or will not control their staff is out of control themselves. Ask any executive.

Your caution comes quite naturally. Because she is giving off the faint scent of being something that everyone hates...an opportunist.

I’ve gone from being someone who donated to her campaign to someone who is wary of her.


39 posted on 06/16/2011 5:50:43 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: ryan71

Maybe, subconsciously, you think it’s a job for a man?
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???
...there is plenty here, for honest criticism.
i certainly disagree with the article, on several specific points.
but, she clearly states she is VERY enthusiatic about Sarah Palin.
so, your comment mystifies me.

...unless:

Maybe, subconsciously, you think Palin is a man?


40 posted on 06/16/2011 5:50:57 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: GoCards

As if we don’t have a million going on as it is?

BTW - go ask even the average repub voter if they kow who Rollins is or this petty squabble oer his statement.

Amongst even repub voters I’ll bet at least 75% have not a clue about this.

Both Sarah and Bachmann are great. they are different of course, but compared to the communist marxist sleeper cell destroyer Obama either is fine by me and I will have no hestiation supporting either, or maybe even both were they to team up.

Bachmann is not the enemy! Obama is. Obama is the one we must train our attacks on so that when election day comes, no atter who wins the primary, we send his treasonous butt back to Kenya once and for all.


41 posted on 06/16/2011 5:51:00 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Philosophically we FReepers line up well with Bachmann, but she’s a voter, not a leader. Plus her stint with Treasury turns me off a bit.


42 posted on 06/16/2011 5:51:19 AM PDT by numberonepal (Palin/Cain 2012)
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To: sillsfan

I like her but I am now looking at candidates to see if they can beat Obama. That is my main concern. I just get the feeling that she can’t. Not sure why. Not sure voters are really ready for a woman president. Look what the media did to Hillary. They preferred a half-black man over a woman. Look what they have done to Sarah. They just treat women differently. I don’t know a lot about Rick Perry but he seems to have a good economic history that would be a great comparison against Obama. He’s good looking (I believe looks count to some extent, Lincoln excepted!). I hope he runs. I could vote for him.


43 posted on 06/16/2011 5:52:08 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

At this point in her career Michele has the skills of a great general, a leader of troops. She does not yet project the aura of a supreme commander, the leader of all. She is of great value to the GOP and Tea Party. She should develop her skill set further and one day she may be ideal for the supreme commander position.


44 posted on 06/16/2011 5:52:44 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: GlockThe Vote
Here we go again. Another thread where the Palin or Nothing crowd endlessly trash Bachmann while Palin has not even decided to run for POTUS. Yawn.

And another thread where the Bachmann supporters can't be bothered to read the post before disparaging Palin supporters (surprise). Did you miss this?

Two candidates not yet on the list – Sarah Palin and Rick Perry – they make me want to campaign for their election!

Funny, I see TWO candidates mentioned there - not just Palin. But I guess you are all in a twist because your candidate is being questioned instead of glorified.

45 posted on 06/16/2011 5:52:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: GlockThe Vote

Absolutely, and to call Bachmann anything other than a staunch conservative is just plain nuts.


46 posted on 06/16/2011 5:53:28 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: GlockThe Vote
Here we go again. Another thread where the Palin or Nothing crowd endlessly trash Bachmann

Funny. Palin supporters being subjected to trash on a daily basis are told that they need to deal with it because if they can't address it, then horrible things will apparently happen. Never mind that the "issues" raised have been addressed ad nauseum.

Why shouldn't this apply to others? Bachmann supporters should take this to heart -- if she is failing to generate enthusiasm within her base, then she needs to figure out why and correct it.

while Palin has not even decided to run for POTUS

Oh please. Anyone who sees what's going on and doesn't think that Palin is running (just not officially), is fooling themselves. Not to mention the whole "Palin isn't running, so support XXX" comments simply reinforce the point that Palin is the natural choice and that supporting anyone else is simply "settling". I'd get off that tack if I were you.

47 posted on 06/16/2011 5:53:28 AM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Apparently she really shouldn’t have you ringing doorbells and doing conservative flips to get her elected.


48 posted on 06/16/2011 5:53:33 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ryan71

No, she’s not Sarah and she voted for the government’s version of the Patriot Act. She lost me there.


49 posted on 06/16/2011 5:54:06 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Bachmann is not the enemy! Obama is. Obama is the one we must train our attacks on so that when election day comes, we send his treasonous butt back to Kenya once and for all.

Well said, preach it brother!

50 posted on 06/16/2011 5:54:11 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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