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Rove stumps for Bachmann, Kennedy [2006]
http://www.startribune.com ^ | Updated: July 21, 2006 - 10:57 PM | Eric Black

Posted on 06/16/2011 7:32:31 PM PDT by RED SOUTH

White House political maestro Karl Rove urged money and other forms of support for Republican congressional candidate Michele Bachmann at a Stillwater fundraiser Friday.The Bachmann fundraiser at the Water Street Inn in Stillwater attracted about 60 supporters, who paid $250 for lunch. Couples who contributed $1,000 to Bachmann could have their pictures taken with Rove. The Bachmann campaign did not immediately release the total amount raised.

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To: 1rudeboy

“That, or he saw her as a loon.”

No, the sly deceit that animates him and the people who still admire him, showed for a moment as he watched his Castle reduced to rubble. Rove was revealed as a corrupt man representing a corrupt elite within a necrotic party which has contributed to a faltering republic.


151 posted on 06/16/2011 9:30:07 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Name the other candidates who screwed up explaining the Bush doctrine on national television. LOL
152 posted on 06/16/2011 9:35:33 PM PDT by jpf (phillies)
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To: GlockLady

I read your email links. A lot of them have her saying that because the Feds won’t fund it and other Alaskans don’t see it as a priority, we can’t do the bridge. Then they talk about how to let down the locals that they won’t support the project. Of course they are worried about local reaction because she told them down there in 2006 that she would support it.

See 2006 quotes

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-31-palin-bridge_N.htm

It is pretty obvious that if this wasn’t raised as a Federal issue that she likely would have taken the money and built the bridge.

I am actually not faulting her for that position, but highlighting how ludicrous it is to draw all sorts of conclusions on Michelle Bachmann from five years ago yet at the same time trying to pretend that Palin and almost every other politician doesn’t have problematic positions from years past.


153 posted on 06/16/2011 9:38:00 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: Windflier
” you set an artificial high bar for Palin”

Not if she were actually ready to be President I don't.

154 posted on 06/16/2011 9:38:52 PM PDT by jpf (phillies)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks for doing my work. ;>)

I’ll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.


155 posted on 06/16/2011 9:42:00 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: RED SOUTH

Pathetic. KR is the kiss of death for conservatism, freedom, liberty, and all else that we hold true. Although, he himself, is personally a loser, his game was all about winning. Where truth, to him, was of no consequence.

Game over Rover. Do America a favor. Retire you POS RINO.

If Michelle wants a chance, she needs to dump his sorry ass now!


156 posted on 06/16/2011 9:42:02 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: jpf; Windflier
You set goals for her that you have not demanded of others. And you claimed that others had traveled AND written policy books. You made a false claim and demanded unrealistic things.

As for other candidates writing books, ah, well, Newt Gingrich for one, John Kennedy, Al Gore, Garry Hart, George W. Bush.

Really? Books on foreign policy? What countries did they travel to before running?

Hmmm.

Kennedy - Profiles in Courage. May have been ghostwritten. Nope. Not foreign policy.

Newt - makes documentaries and wrote Rediscovering God in America. Nope.

Al Gore? LOLOL - An Inconvenient Truth: The Planetary Emergency of Global Warming and What We Can Do About It, The Assault on Reason, Earth in the Balance. Nope. Not foreign policy.

Gary Hart - Under The Eagle's Wing: A National Security Strategy of the United States for 2009. You hit paydirt! Wait. Was that written BEFORE he ran for office? Hm.

George W. Bush - Decision Points. It's a memoir and wasn't written as a candidate.

Well, none of them wrote a foreign policy book BEFORE they ran for office.

And now I'm going to bed. Even if I stayed up all night you wouldn't be able to prove your premise.

157 posted on 06/16/2011 9:45:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: jpf
That has nothing to do with your point. You demanded that she do things that no other candidate has done. Then you tried to say they had.

Goodnight.

158 posted on 06/16/2011 9:47:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Windflier

” Rita, I know that Sarah is making you crazy with waiting, but please. Sarah’s got plenty of time to declare a run for office. The fact is, she’s not late - the rest of the field is early. “ ===============

In any other year I am inclined to agree. Not this year. The delay with Perry and Palin helps one candidate. Romney. It has already. The Palin “delay” opens up support for Bachman, and Cain, who are new and rookies at presidential campaigning and have none to moderate name recognition.

Sarah popping in at her late leisure stands to split then the bots from the base and Romney takes off leaving the splinters. A Karl Rove dream. Why? Because we’re sitting on a stump waiting for Palin? It’s all getting harder and harder to excuse. What’s left for Sarah to not know to cut the drama and make a decision, except she is NOT going to run. But, if you’re cool with it.......learn to spell R-o-m-n-e-y.


159 posted on 06/16/2011 9:47:52 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: GlockLady

Appreciate it gal. If I am going to have someone in my corner I at least want them to be well armed. :)


160 posted on 06/16/2011 9:52:01 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: SteveAustin; GlockLady
#Palin Emails Prove that Governor Palin Opposed the Bridge to Nowhere

"Truly this could provide an opportunity for Congress to start discussing the nation’s priorities… call me naive, but AK could/should lead in this discussion on public dollars paying for intrastucture improvements across the nation. Why CAN’T we offer to return the “B2N” earmark bc the state can’t afford the project, and the feds won’t be paying for it – the grandious $350m bridge NOT going to happen on our watch."

161 posted on 06/16/2011 9:56:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Looked at her legislative history. That was disappointing. More recently I have seen her twist herself into pretzels explaining her votes. Finally she hired Rollins who proceeded to bash Governor Palin, who has arguably been the single most influential Republican over the past two years.

I have come to the conclusion that once you get past the fiery rhetoric there just isn't much there, there.

Like you, I have been a Bachmann supporter from when I first became aware of her. But, the data I'm now seeing about her political career and her political alliances is disturbing.

Unlike many, I always thought that her presidential ambitions were premature, and ill-advised. I liked her very much for what she was bringing to the Tea Party movement, but Bachmann for president? I could never quite wrap my head around that. It's always seemed like a terrible over-reach on her part, to me.

I was willing to simply allow her the leeway to pursue what I thought was a fool's errand in the presidential race. I had no illusions that she'd actually win, but perhaps she'd gain some valuable big league experience for another time.

Now, with Rollins out there bashing Palin, and the revelations about her early connections (and political debt) to Rove, I'm feeling quite a bit different about her.

I don't like a back-stabber, and I'm afraid she's now earned the title. I wasn't going to support her in her presidential bid anyway, but her betrayal of Sarah is a long-term deal-breaker for me. It's a serious black mark against her character.

162 posted on 06/16/2011 10:10:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RINOs suck
Not many Republican challengers wouldn't have welcomed Rove back in 2006.

Sure, but how many would sell their soul and agree to be his political pawn? It looks for all the world to me, that Bachmann has done just that.

163 posted on 06/16/2011 10:12:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Uh, no . . . Christine O’Donnell did a fine job of it herself. She didn’t need any help.

So, why did Rove proceed to do just that, AFTER she won the nomination?

164 posted on 06/16/2011 10:15:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Artcore
It is sad to see Freepers going off of the deep end on a 5-year old article. Good grief...get a grip!

Calm down, friend. If you don't see how the information in this article is of relevance to the current political battle, then just say so. Some of us see the threads of undue political influence in it, all too well.

This lady has made a couple of mistakes, but good grief folks...these people are human beings!

Sarah Palin was Michele Bachmann's most prominent supporter in her last bid for re-election, and Michele turned around and thanked her by doing (and saying) nothing about her campaign manager bashing Sarah to the press.

That's called betrayal, and it is a very important indicator of a person's character (or lack thereof). In fact, because this incident was widely publicized, Bachmann's treason against a staunch ally is even more egregious.

165 posted on 06/16/2011 10:25:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Sure, but how many would sell their soul and agree to be his political pawn? It looks for all the world to me, that Bachmann has done just that.

"Sold her soul?"

"Agreed to become his political pawn?"

Wow


166 posted on 06/16/2011 10:26:38 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: wolf24
Certainly not to early for the circular firing squads, however.

So, did Sarah fire on Bachmann, or did Bachmann fire on Palin? As far as I know, Palin hasn't returned fire yet, which speaks volumes about her character.

Bachmann took herself out of the "circle" when she failed to respond to Rollins' attacks on Palin. We're not firing at the rest of the field - only the betrayer.

167 posted on 06/16/2011 10:31:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpf
As for other candidates writing books, ah, well, Newt Gingrich for one, John Kennedy, Al Gore, Garry Hart, George W. Bush... shall I go on?

Yeah, you should go on. We want to know what CURRENT presidential candidates have met the bar that you're setting for Sarah Palin.

Newt? Gimme a break. That egghead has done nothing BUT write books, since he left Congress.

Try again!

168 posted on 06/16/2011 10:35:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpf
Name the other candidates who screwed up explaining the Bush doctrine on national television. LOL

Quit selling the enemy line here. Most Freepers know what really happened in that interview, and I'll bet you do too.

You're squirming. Stop avoiding the question, and reveal the authors!

169 posted on 06/16/2011 10:38:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Which candidate has actually met the bar?

Has any candidate espoused dismantling Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, HUD, unemployment payments, National Labor Relations Board, bailouts of any form, and et ali?

WHICH candidate is actually running on such platform?

IF your candidate is NOT espousing such, then YOUR candidature is NOT conservative in the true and real sense and all your pontification is nothing but pontificated hand-wringing.

170 posted on 06/16/2011 10:43:00 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jpf
"you set an artificial high bar for Palin”

Not if she were actually ready to be President I don't.

What - are you 17 or something? Address the charge like an adult. You're applying a standard to Governor Palin that you're NOT applying to any other candidate.

Either be consistent, or be labeled an unthinking PDSer.

171 posted on 06/16/2011 10:43:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RitaOK

Rita....one word: Strategy.

Strategy.


172 posted on 06/16/2011 10:45:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: wolf24

Keep on chasin’ them rainbows, bucko. LOL

“In politics, there are no accidents or coincidences.” FDR


173 posted on 06/16/2011 10:48:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: raygun
IF your candidate is NOT espousing such, then YOUR candidature is NOT conservative in the true and real sense and all your pontification is nothing but pontificated hand-wringing.

Not even Ronaldus Magnus came close to meeting your bar. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

174 posted on 06/16/2011 10:53:11 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
There is no room for prefect on this board. You toe the line from Jimnus Magnus (there is NO discussion).
175 posted on 06/16/2011 10:57:08 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Cicero

He was sticking his nose into Bill Simon in 2003 and using his substantial leverage to try and steer the campaign into RINO territory.


176 posted on 06/16/2011 10:58:41 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

2002


177 posted on 06/16/2011 10:59:16 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: raygun
There is no room for prefect on this board. You toe the line from Jimnus Magnus (there is NO discussion).

You need to stop posting while drunk. Good night.

178 posted on 06/16/2011 11:01:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GregH
Some people really are trolling and desperate.

Agreed. Especially if they have to go back 5 years and try to make a non-issue and issue.

179 posted on 06/16/2011 11:51:51 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Nextrush

I hear what you are saying, good points!


180 posted on 06/17/2011 5:45:20 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST...NYTimes/MSM wants Bachmann to be the nominee..)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; sushiman

Tough Crowd. What’s wrong with Michelle Bachmann working with President Bush and Karl Rove back in 2006? They were all on the same team, the Republican team right?


181 posted on 06/17/2011 6:43:48 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: RED SOUTH; Jim Robinson

This article is from 2006. I didn’t think trolling was allowed on FR. With all your smear posts about Bachamnn you must be very afraid of her.


182 posted on 06/17/2011 7:20:49 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: wolf24

Apparently some of the Palin KADs cannot stand that Bachmann has jumped into the presidential race while Palin is still on the sidelines deciding. Bachmann was fine for them when she was a congresswoman from Minnesota, but in their minds she has no business being on the presidential stage as that’s reserved for Palin and only Palin.


183 posted on 06/17/2011 7:23:37 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: Doofer

Among the Bachmann backers there’s a significant segment of activists who are in fact nothing more than would-be Palin stoppers. By all appearances, that is.


184 posted on 06/17/2011 7:26:25 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Pray for Israel.)
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To: SteveAustin
Maybe we can start posting five year old articles from when Palin supported the bridge to nowhere.

Well Palin did accept the VP slot on Juan McCain's ticket. And endorsed him in the 2010 AZ primary. Can't get anymore RINO than that.

185 posted on 06/17/2011 7:27:12 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: Windflier; DJ MacWoW
Okay, one last time;

John Kennedy's Father Joe had created a problem, he had ticked off FDR. That wasn't a good political move in 1940 for a young man who wanted to be President someday. Solution; young John wrote “Why England Slept.” to distance himself from appeasement and his pop. Later “PT 109” was written to make Kennedy look like a hero, the kind of guy you'd want in the oval office when the pressure was on.

George W. Bush had a problem, he was in the shadow of his Father. Solution; in 2000 he wrote (actually Karen Hughes wrote it, but whatever) “A Charge to Keep,” outlining his belief in compassionate conservatism and touting his executive experience.

Obama wrote a book about his childhood knowing his bio was a problem.

Dan Quayle wrote 3 books before he ran for President in 2000, which were so successful that he was no longer a laughing stock, but the wise old man of the field.

Gary Hart wrote a ton of books, but the “America Can Win, blah, blah, blah” from 1985 was designed to make him look like an expert in military affairs for his 1988 run for President. Hey, it was on Donna Rice's summer reading list for 1987 anyway.

“Earth in The Balance” helped make Al Gore VP so he could later provide crucial impeachment insurance for Bill Clinton.

I'm done, you should get the point by now.

Sarah Palin has a particular problem, people think she's too dumb to be President. Remember, “fair” doesn't matter, only perception. Now I ask you to imagine that instead of “America by Heart” she had written a study of the Spanish-American War. Better yet, the story of Teddy Roosevelt during the war and how it shaped his foreign policy as President.

Suddenly, there she is on C-span talking calmly and confidently to Brian Lamb about TR for a solid hour. No filter, no screw balls, no commercials, just Brian, Sarah, and TR for an hour. Pretty good picture isn't? The not so subtle message of Sarah as a modern day TR comes across pretty clearly, does it not?

Nope, didn't do it.

186 posted on 06/17/2011 8:32:39 AM PDT by jpf (phillies)
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To: jpf; Windflier
Oh definitely! Talking about Teddy Roosevelt would make her a shoo-in! /s

Kennedy's Why England Slept was his college thesis.

A Charge to Keep by Bush was ghostwritten by Michael Herskowitz and is about Bushes life and political philosophy.

Obama wrote books about himself that are actually written by Ayers. They're fiction.

You stated:Governor Palin should have spent the last three years traveling the world and writing a book on foreign policy

She IS traveling the world and she HAS stated her beliefs many times. She has also written Going Rogue and America by Heart. And she "talks politics" in both books.

The truth is that NOTHING she could do would "please" you OR the left.

187 posted on 06/17/2011 8:52:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Windflier
I believe Bachmann is sincere conservative and Christian that thinks she can win Iowa and the nomination.

I also believe Sarah Palin is a better candidate and, if she runs, she will win Iowa. Romney will be lucky to get 20% of the vote in Iowa. Palin has a strong base of support. And, no one gives a better speech or draws a crowd like Sarah.

Game on. Let's see who the best conservative and candidate in the race is. The best candidate will overcome the obstacles.

188 posted on 06/17/2011 9:17:04 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: jpf
Sarah Palin has a particular problem, people think she's too dumb to be President. Remember, “fair” doesn't matter, only perception. Now I ask you to imagine that instead of “America by Heart” she had written a study of the Spanish-American War. Better yet, the story of Teddy Roosevelt during the war and how it shaped his foreign policy as President.

JP, you argue well. Well enough to be a lawyer (and I mean that as a compliment), but you actually lost your legs on this one some time back. You're now trying to walk on thin air.

None of the people you mentioned is running for president in 2012, except for Sarah Palin and Barack Obama, both of whom have penned a couple of books, each. I asked you who among the current field of Republican candidates has written the type of scholarly tome you demand of Sarah Palin. So far, you've said much, but have failed to answer that question (Newt wrote on a different topic).

Where's Mitt's book on history? How 'bout Michele's? Herman Cain's? Why is Sarah Palin the only one who MUST produce a scholarly treatise on foreign affairs or history? Oh, that's right, it's because everyone else in the field has already proven that they're mental giants of impeccable pedigree, who possess a command of US foreign policy and history that would make Jefferson blush.

So tell me. How is it that Sarah embarrassed the entire left-wing establishment recently with her superior knowledge of the history of Paul Revere's famous ride? Not one American in a thousand was aware of that part of Revere's story, but Sarah was. And it made national news.

Yet, she still has to prove to you and those who have no intention of ever supporting her, that she meets your artificial and inflated standards.

I think you know where you can put those standards.

189 posted on 06/17/2011 9:35:23 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RINOs suck
Game on. Let's see who the best conservative and candidate in the race is. The best candidate will overcome the obstacles.

Agreed. Game on!

190 posted on 06/17/2011 9:36:31 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
She IS traveling the world and she HAS stated her beliefs many times. She has also written Going Rogue and America by Heart. And she "talks politics" in both books.

The truth is that NOTHING she could do would "please" you OR the left.

BINGO.

Ping to post 189.

191 posted on 06/17/2011 9:38:31 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RED SOUTH

Karl Rove also helped Texas Governor Rick Perry’s campaigns, of course Perry is a favorite of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.


192 posted on 06/17/2011 9:42:32 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Windflier

Palin was successful before all these people decided that they know better. She had an 88% approval in Aug 2008. She certainly doesn’t need them to “tell her how it’s done”.


193 posted on 06/17/2011 9:44:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: ejdrapes

Bachmann is a conservative. This behavior is hateful and shameful.


194 posted on 06/17/2011 9:50:02 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Windflier
Accidently caught Bachmann on Fox and Friends this morning, Ducey (sp?) gave her an opportunity to attack Romney and Romneycare, dodged the question awkwardly and completely.
Kind of a befuddled look on her face to boot.

There is no doubt in my mind what's going on now.

195 posted on 06/17/2011 9:57:09 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Palin was successful before all these people decided that they know better. She had an 88% approval in Aug 2008. She certainly doesn’t need them to “tell her how it’s done”.

Ain't that the truth.

It just galls me that people find so much to criticize her about, when her personal life story of achievement is like something out of a novel. It's exceedingly rare to find someone who has achieved so much, on their own steam, in less than half a century.

Her personal record easily dwarfs those of any number of her nearest competitors by orders of magnitude, yet for some, she's little more than a goof who can see Russia from her back porch.

Can you imagine Palin and Reagan comparing notes over tea? I'm sure they'd be laughing their heads off, the whole time.

196 posted on 06/17/2011 9:59:12 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: indylindy
This behavior is hateful and shameful.

You're the expert Ace, no doubt about it.

197 posted on 06/17/2011 10:02:20 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun
Accidently caught Bachmann on Fox and Friends this morning, Ducey (sp?) gave her an opportunity to attack Romney and Romneycare, dodged the question awkwardly and completely. Kind of a befuddled look on her face to boot.

There is no doubt in my mind what's going on now.

Well, well, well. How soon the worm turns.

She's aiming for Romney's VP slot. No doubt about it now. She's gone over to the dark side.

198 posted on 06/17/2011 10:02:54 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RED SOUTH
A five year old article?

I smell desperation.

199 posted on 06/17/2011 10:06:29 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: smoothsailing
First Rollins, now this.

_________________________________

Now? Did you even bother to look? This article is five years old.

Don't feel bad though, not a single poster up to you post bothered to read it either....didn't stop them from wetting their pants though.

200 posted on 06/17/2011 10:09:33 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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