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Retailers being sued in California over seating
Star-Telegram (AP) ^ | 6-19-11 | Paul Elias

Posted on 06/19/2011 7:35:06 AM PDT by engrpat

SAN FRANCISCO -- Retail store operators may want to sit down for this one -- if they can find a chair.

Nearly every national chain is under legal attack in California for failing to provide "suitable seating" for cashiers and other employees who are expected to spend most of their workday on their feet.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: business; california; suits
The story goes on to explain how mainly big box stores are being sued for failing to provide suitable seating for cashiers.

Look for more business to either leave or reduce their presence in the state.

1 posted on 06/19/2011 7:35:12 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: engrpat

They will just buy stools...

but wait...

didn’t we just get the word that “sitting is more dangerous than smoking”?

CA is now killing people AND jobs.


2 posted on 06/19/2011 7:39:39 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: engrpat

I was talking to a hotel exec and all employers in California must provide seating for employees, not just retail stores. It’s a nightmare but then so are the majority of Californians.


3 posted on 06/19/2011 7:42:04 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would http://see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Mrs.Z

Stores will eliminate cashier jobs by having more self check-outs.


4 posted on 06/19/2011 7:42:08 AM PDT by bgill
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To: engrpat

One of our local checkers has a prostetic leg (and a purple heart and bronze star). The store has his lane set up so he can work seated.


5 posted on 06/19/2011 7:44:18 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: bgill

fine by me.


6 posted on 06/19/2011 7:45:09 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Vendome

But don’t expect stores to give the savings back to the customers with lower prices.


7 posted on 06/19/2011 7:47:36 AM PDT by bgill
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks engrpat. George Costanza provided a chair for the security guard, look how well that worked out.
for failing to provide "suitable seating" for cashiers and other employees who are expected to spend most of their workday on their feet
Someone's missing the obvious -- if they spend most of their workday on their feet, and the employer requires them to wear shoes, the employer should be providing the shoes, too. And since they're required to be to work on time, they should have their transportation to and from work paid for. Oh, and they have to eat lunch during a day shift, that should also be provided...


8 posted on 06/19/2011 7:51:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: engrpat
My first boss told me “If you've got time lean, you've got time to clean.” I was a cashier at McDonalds.
9 posted on 06/19/2011 7:56:32 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: engrpat
"All working employees shall be provided with suitable seats when the nature of the work reasonably permits the use of seats," the provision says. "When employees are not engaged in the duties of their employment and the nature of the work requires standing, an adequate number of suitable seats shall be placed in reasonable proximity to the work area and the employees shall be permitted to use such seats when it does not interfere with the performance of their duties."

Sounds to me that some sort of "break room" is in order. Stupid F'n lawyers are going to shut down even more jobs in California.

How is Jerry Brown going to keep the handouts going without taxpayers?

10 posted on 06/19/2011 7:59:36 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: engrpat

Employers will hire ATMs to do those jobs.


11 posted on 06/19/2011 8:01:11 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: engrpat

IMO, this is about time. Being able to sit intermittently will be quite helpful. I don’t know how checkers stand for 8 hrs every day without being able to sit — especially the pregnant women & older folks.

I think it was California that led the way on no smoking in restaurants, infant car seats, & the seat belt laws — starting back in the 1980s when Rush was railing against the smoking laws. He is not always right and he acknowledges that every day w/ his “97.9%”.


12 posted on 06/19/2011 8:03:35 AM PDT by Kay
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To: engrpat

This a group of lawyers using vague laws to my them self rich.


13 posted on 06/19/2011 8:06:23 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: Kay
I don’t know how checkers stand for 8 hrs every day without being able to sit — especially the pregnant women & older folks.

They don't. When I was working retail we had to take frequent breaks by law. Go back to the break room and sit down for 10 minutes. I got in trouble once for working 4 hours straight without a break. The horror! (Yes, this was in California)

14 posted on 06/19/2011 8:10:10 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: SunkenCiv

Don’t forget the clocks. If they have to be there at a certain time the employer should provide clocks.

As for those who say employees shouldn’t have to stand for 8 hours, try a little factory work. We used to get a 10 minute break every two hours. Plus 30 minutes for lunch.

I think this law is going to require that checkers have a stool to sit on when there’s no one in line. Don’t agree. They could be doing something else if they’re not on break.


15 posted on 06/19/2011 8:26:33 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Kay

There are lots of jobs in which people are unable to sit for their 8 hour work day. Are we, the taxpayer and consumer, to pay for these people to have seats? Is CA willing to lose even more jobs by forcing this ridiculous requirement upon employers? Accommodations for those who need it is one thing. Forcing all employers to provide all employees a chair to sit upon is madness.


16 posted on 06/19/2011 8:30:24 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Kay

There are lots of jobs in which people are unable to sit for their 8 hour work day. Are we, the taxpayer and consumer, to pay for these people to have seats? Is CA willing to lose even more jobs by forcing this ridiculous requirement upon employers? Accommodations for those who need it is one thing. Forcing all employers to provide all employees a chair to sit upon is madness.


17 posted on 06/19/2011 8:32:19 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: engrpat

Self check-out stations in every line. Who needs a person?


18 posted on 06/19/2011 8:37:54 AM PDT by Shire
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To: engrpat

Banned in California


19 posted on 06/19/2011 8:39:27 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: SunkenCiv
George Costanza provided a chair for the security guard, look how well that worked out.

20 posted on 06/19/2011 8:44:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: engrpat
Having hired people over the years, most jobs should have a "job description" included in the interview process to be reviewed and signed off by the potential employee that they can do all the duties listed. Being able to stand for 4 hours straight is normally one of the duties listed in retail positions

There also should be a section in the interview process to list any ADA "Americans with disabilities Act" provisions that would prevent the person from doing that job and the employee has to accommodate them

I don't see how this will get much traction legally, but of course we are talking about California

21 posted on 06/19/2011 8:55:48 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: engrpat
Having hired people over the years, most jobs should have a "job description" included in the interview process to be reviewed and signed off by the potential employee that they can do all the duties listed. Being able to stand for 4 hours straight is normally one of the duties listed in retail positions

There also should be a section in the interview process to list any ADA "Americans with disabilities Act" provisions that would prevent the person from doing that job and the employee has to accommodate them

I don't see how this will get much traction legally, but of course we are talking about California

22 posted on 06/19/2011 8:55:57 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: SoldierDad

There are lots of jobs in which people are unable to sit for their 8 hour work day
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Guess my days of having 20 or so loads of asphalt on the job with the crew and another 20 or so on the road will no longer be an option since we will have to provide lawn chairs (with umbrellas, I suppose)for the workers.
Still makes my ‘leg twitch’ when driving down an interstate and see a paving operation with trucks lined up as far as the eye can see.
BTW, I was completely ‘hands on’, my truck was either at one end of the job or the other and I spent the majority of the day right out there in the sun, will the workers...in fact, I basically had one employee that did little more than bring my truck to me when I need the radio.

Of course, I was apt to ‘sneak off’ and grab a brewsky several times a day, but it was usually so hot that you would ‘burn’ them right out of your system.
In the evening would get down to some VERY SERIOUS Budweiser Time.


23 posted on 06/19/2011 9:04:09 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) Time to clean House (and Senate) again. Incumbents begone!!)
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To: Kay
I don’t know how checkers stand for 8 hrs every day without being able to sit

I used to do it quite easily when I had jobs that required it.

The breaks allowed plenty of rest.

I don't know why Big Gov't has to demand such a thing. Too many people are already obese as it is.

24 posted on 06/19/2011 10:21:13 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Kay
I don’t know how checkers stand for 8 hrs every day without being able to sit

I used to do it quite easily when I had jobs that required it.

The breaks allowed plenty of rest.

I don't know why Big Gov't has to demand such a thing. Too many people are already obese as it is.

25 posted on 06/19/2011 10:21:15 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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