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Bangor Daily News ^ | 6/21/11 | Bill Trotter

Posted on 06/21/2011 2:45:35 PM PDT by Kartographer

Try as they might, Trevor Seip and Jennifer Sansosti cannot contain their excitement.

The young engaged couple recently shipped their lives from out of state to a rustic, 63-acre property they bought on Winkumpaugh Road, where they hope to build a home and future together.

They are not the first to move to rural Maine from a more heavily populated part of the East Coast — Pennsylvania in their case — with dreams of homesteading in the woods. Nor are they the first to do so while in possession of a well-thumbed copy of “The Good Life,” the 1954 book by former Brooksville residents Helen and Scott Nearing that has served as a manual for simple, sustainable living for so many.

“It’s full of life,” Sansosti said of their wooded property which abuts a stream that flows toward Branch Lake. “It has an abundance of natural resources.”

(Excerpt) Read more at bangordailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; buygold; buysilver; getreadyhereitcomes; preparedness; preparenow; preppers; prepping; shtf; survival; survivalping; tshtf

Jennifer Sansosti and Trevor Seip outside their shipping container home in Ellsworth. The couple have transformed two 20 foot long containers - which they bought on eBay-- into their home.
1 posted on 06/21/2011 2:45:39 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!


2 posted on 06/21/2011 2:46:34 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I'm seriously looking at shipping containers for my next place. Have the design all set up. There are tons of sites online, too, that have prefabbed SC homes.

I saw one built into the side of hill overlooking Lake Michigan. It's three SCs stacked. It was gorgeous and simple.

3 posted on 06/21/2011 2:48:23 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Kartographer

Good for them....and double insulate those containers to prepare for the coming mini ice age (or not so mini as the case may be)


4 posted on 06/21/2011 2:50:40 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: Kartographer

Nice Truck.


5 posted on 06/21/2011 2:52:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kartographer

Just wait until their first winter up there. Good luck. I’m in MA and last winter was insanity.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 2:53:13 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: spokeshave

Those containers look perfect for a couple of amateurs to do their own straw bale, waterproof stucco experiment on.


7 posted on 06/21/2011 2:54:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Kartographer

Some are cool!

http://www.google.com/search?q=shipping+container+homes&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tw8BTotTka2BB_TEjNUN&ved=0CFMQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=905


9 posted on 06/21/2011 2:55:42 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Kartographer

I would splurge and get a rudamentary concrete slab put down for a $1,500, but that’s just me -— I like a level floor so my toilet will flush and I don’t have that “I’m in a tent” feel.


10 posted on 06/21/2011 2:56:26 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Bockscar
So many neat homes from SCs out there. Great info here.

I'm also a fan of WeeHouse. Same principle (smaller, simple footprints).

11 posted on 06/21/2011 3:00:34 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Kartographer

For you survivalists out there...how to make a shipping container bunker...practical and affordable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EAJex1RVo


12 posted on 06/21/2011 3:01:56 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Kartographer

My County in Colorado is one of the least populated, and a land use regulation prohibits shipping containers on private properties.


13 posted on 06/21/2011 3:02:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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To: Kartographer

It’s a nice begining. But, they may want to look into building their first little home faster.

Wait till the Maine winter hits and they are living in a large metal box.

The guy reminds me of one of my cousins in Ohio. He’s adopted a hippie type of mindset with the hemp clothes, facial hair, and general lack of hygiene. Always preaches about being “sustainable”. Lots of pot has been inhaled by the man.

He rents this large piece of farmland outside Cincinati for basically nothing, lives in a rundown barn, and keeps trying to grow nothing but organic, but he’s also lazy, and his crops never seem to make it in quantities big enough for him to even break even. He’s always claiming animals eat all his plants, water system sucks, etc, etc....


14 posted on 06/21/2011 3:02:48 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I would say you should be easy to build a do it yourself pier foundation for even less.


15 posted on 06/21/2011 3:02:58 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Zeppelin

Yep, part of my plan: bury one below the surface with only one access point, obviously hidden.


16 posted on 06/21/2011 3:04:01 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: All

TWO WORDS

CODE ENFORCEMENT


17 posted on 06/21/2011 3:04:10 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: Bockscar
Here's another one.
19 posted on 06/21/2011 3:11:27 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Zeppelin

Seems like a lot of work for not very much space.

Once the hole is there, why not just make concrete walls out to the edge?


20 posted on 06/21/2011 3:18:20 PM PDT by super7man
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To: Kartographer
And I'm not the one who wrote the following, BTW. ;-)

"Exiled_Mainer [Moderator] Yesterday 03:28 AM in reply to Jenny Bean I have been getting a kick out of the people carrying on about how hard Maine winters are...living at nine thousand feet above sea level in Colorado makes Maine winter seem quite tame. 8)"


21 posted on 06/21/2011 3:20:36 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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22 posted on 06/21/2011 3:23:07 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: Kartographer

And then in a few years when that area is over-run with illegals and Ted Kennedys 1965 immigration act Islamo participants they can move again! cool!


23 posted on 06/21/2011 3:26:06 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Talk to me Hudson!)
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To: rintense
"bury one below the surface with only one access point,"

Airtight: 1. too tight for air or gas to enter or escape.

25 posted on 06/21/2011 3:37:49 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: familyop

What if the SCs were incorporated in the interior of a house as structural elements?


26 posted on 06/21/2011 3:39:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rintense
Put some 40 footers on end for a tower house.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 3:43:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rintense

I did some work at a mine in Indonesia. I’m glad we were there for only 3-months so we got to stay in a nice townhome while one of their pilots was on leave. They were planning on having us live in a container where the miners live. Packed 3 or 4 tall and who knows how many packed side to side. The “housing” looked like something out of Mad Max.

I can see where a private owner that would put windows in, etc. they could be nice.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 3:46:54 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: Kartographer

I hope those container doors are welded open ‘cause I can think of a neat practical joke ...


29 posted on 06/21/2011 3:50:56 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: Kartographer
Can't beat my Redneck Basement though!


30 posted on 06/21/2011 3:58:15 PM PDT by freejohn
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To: Peter from Rutland

Ha ! Yup.

I give `em until mid January with 10 feet of snow and wind chills of -20.

They`ll have a quick change of heart come spring and the thrill will be gone.


31 posted on 06/21/2011 3:58:15 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Wait till the Maine winter hits and they are living in a large metal box.

If they are smart enough to insulate (R12) the outside of the container, all 6 sides, as you would a concrete wall, not the inside all that metal will act as a heat sink. A flat slab is a must.


32 posted on 06/21/2011 4:00:46 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Kartographer
“We make [our plan] up as we go along,” Sansosti said. “This is what the future looks like.”<\I>

or said Obama

Lord help us

33 posted on 06/21/2011 4:04:21 PM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: Kartographer
The Nearings were screwballs,period.

I read Mother Earth News when their articles were current.

Of course,if your idea of the good life is endless physical toil,no children,and pretty sure the internet is out along with phones and electricity.

At least the Amish are a lot smarter about the "simple" life.

And when the Nearings wrote their books America had many areas without building codes.But the nanny-statists spread their noses everywhere in the interval.

34 posted on 06/21/2011 4:42:58 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Paladin2
"What if the SCs were incorporated in the interior of a house as structural elements?"

The intent was obviously to prevent shipping containers from being used as outdoor sheds for storage here. So using them as structurals in an engineered design would probably work, IMO.


35 posted on 06/21/2011 4:54:51 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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To: troy McClure

Two words in a lot of places:

NO ZONING.


36 posted on 06/21/2011 4:58:37 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: familyop
Thnx.

That's interesting as in my "People's Republic" one can build a shed without any building code requirements.

Maybe I should have a couple of containers dropped off to test the system. (They would work as garages AFAICT)

37 posted on 06/21/2011 5:06:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kartographer

Heck, I’d move into a Container with Jennifer if she were down with that.


38 posted on 06/21/2011 5:07:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kartographer

I would never, never live in a metal house.

Most containers have been heavily sprayed with pesticides many times during their lifespan so that should be taken into consideration.

If I needed a dwelling, I would look into this method of construction:

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1215&bih=831&q=cordwood+house+construction&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.daycreek.com/dc/html/dc_cordwood_masonry.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordwood_construction

In fact we’re thinking of building a small pump house that way just to see if it works. Any and all sizes of wood can be used.


39 posted on 06/21/2011 5:09:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: spokeshave
and double insulate those containers to prepare for the coming mini ice age (or not so mini as the case may be)

Yeah, and it will be as cold as a well digger's butt in Maine! I wonder why they chose Maine? The soil is horribly rocky, and when the mini Ice Age hits, the growing season will be almost non-existent! Or maybe they plan to do a sweet greenhouse set-up powered by solar panels. That's what I'd like to do!

40 posted on 06/21/2011 5:24:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Peter from Rutland
I’m in MA and last winter was insanity.

We're just east of Worcester, and I agree. Though in our 23 years here, we've had a couple of winters like that; early on. But we're making plans to remodel, get the heck out of here and move back home to MS, and I'd love to do it before next winter. Remains to be seen if we can do it, but I'd sure love NOT to spend another winter here that's like the last one.

41 posted on 06/21/2011 5:27:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Paladin2
"That's interesting as in my "People's Republic" one can build a shed without any building code requirements."

...same here. The part about shipping containers is in another part of the code.

"Maybe I should have a couple of containers dropped off to test the system. (They would work as garages AFAICT)"

Sounds like a plan. ;-) I've seen a few containers on neighbors' places around here and haven't heard of any persecution over them, yet. The cost of getting them here is the only thing preventing me from using them somehow. ...more expensive than on the coasts. I'm also cheap and tend to build agricultural structures at even lower costs than that (no structural permits for agricultural structures here, only electrical, plumbing, etc.).


42 posted on 06/21/2011 5:56:13 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: little jeremiah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthbag_construction


43 posted on 06/21/2011 6:00:12 PM PDT by Tucson_AZ (A million seconds ~ 12 days; a billion ~ 31 years; a trillion ~ 31,000 years - now think dollars)
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To: Tucson_AZ

I’ve seen a bit of info about them before but figured (rightly or wrongly) that they would work in very arid climates but not with very wet winters. We get on the average about 65 inches a year, in about 7 months mostly. We do have very clay soil, though! Or rather, very clayey clay.

;-)


44 posted on 06/21/2011 6:28:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kartographer; All
I wish them well - however, two things right off make me think they'll have a tough time: If Helen and Scot Nearing are their role models, they are in trouble.

Two: With all information and uniquely designed homes made from containers - they simply plunked the two down, separately, and are living in a space only 8’ wide. That's going to shrink considerable come the winter months!

If they had simply put them side by side and converted into a 16’ x 20’ living area - it would be quite comfortable - if spaced them side by side with 4-8’ in between, then simply connecting them with a roof and end walls, they'd have a really comfortable place - with enough space to have a wood stove safely.

Now, back to Helen and Scot Nearing.
she was from Europe, born into wealth. Scot was from Pennsylvania. She met him when she was 20-21 and he was in his 40’s, jobless, a Communist - a teacher who could no longer get a job due to his writings.

He thoroughly converted her and they bought a farm in Vermont but were never accepted by the locals. Years later, they moved to Maine.

In both places, they had hundreds of young people who wanted to learn how to ‘live the good life’ would come to visit - and end up building walls, cutting wood, weeding gardens, helping to build the houses, etc - FREE.

The home in Maine is a lovely Swiss Chalet style, two story stone and wood. NOT austere at all. Even after Scot died, at 100, hundreds would make their way to the ‘homestead’ and find themselves doing chores - and maybe be fed a bowl of popcorn.

And what most people never realized was that Helen and Scot didn't ‘winter’ in Maine. Palm Beach and the French Riviera was where they skipped off to.

Now there is a couple up there that bought a good chunk of the Nearings land - I think soon after Helen died - who IS living the way people thought the Nearings did.

http://www.fourseasonfarm.com/

I grew up (I'm a great gramma now) on a farm further up north with my grandparents. That was s time before electricity was put in. People then lived the way the Nearings pretended to. (The Nearings money came from their writings, not from ‘homesteading’ or farming.)

ON my grandparents farm - and the others up there - , they were truly independent - never had to work off the farm. With our gardens - vegetables, fruits, berries, eggs and chickens in the coop, beef, milk and pork in the barn, wild game in the woods, fish in the waters - we always had a years worth of food on hand. For thing we couldn't produce, like sugar, molasses, coffee, flour - grammie traded her butter and sold her eggs - and cabbage from her market garden. Grampa sold and traded his berries, was a Maine Guide and, with his gas powered lathe, made tennis racket frames for a famous outfit - and so on.

REAL self-sufficient people.

We watch young people like this come to Maine with stars in their eyes and “The Good Life” under their arms. Not many make it. But I wish them luck - they have, at least, chosen a good area where people will help them.

I wish them well, tripping over one another this winter in a 8’ wide space.

45 posted on 06/21/2011 6:45:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: Kartographer
The Clinton Library looks like a shipping container:


46 posted on 06/21/2011 8:41:50 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: hoosierham

Agreed. I read all of Nearings books and Mother Earth News back in the 70’s. It’s damn hard work and it’s usually only obtainable if you don’t have a real job, but you still need money.


47 posted on 06/22/2011 3:45:40 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: maine-iac7

I didn’t know all that about the Nearings. Interesting!


48 posted on 06/22/2011 3:50:23 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

I suppose the Nearings were paid for their books and articles thus giving them some real money ,unlike the average schmuck who tried to live in that style.
Some other publications seem to have a few prolific writers of how-to-survive-on-nothing but I just bet without the checks from writing they’d be looking for work.
Subsidence gardening and disinclination to have offspring is NOT a long term social survival mechanism.
I think people like the Nearing ought really to held up as example of social misfits who lead people to waste their lives.


49 posted on 06/22/2011 1:35:24 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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