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Straight Talk From Top Enlisted Marine on ‘Don’t Ask’ Repeal.
The Wall Street Journal Blogs ^ | June 21, 2011 | Nathan Hodge

Posted on 06/22/2011 4:39:28 PM PDT by The Shrew

Straight talk from Sgt. Maj. of the Marine Corps: “How dare we, then, exclude a group of people who want to do the same thing you do right now, something that is honorable and noble?”

“Get over it,” he said. “We’re magnificent, we’re going to continue to be. Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines.”

bit.ly The Command Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps addressed a group of Marines at a base in South Korea several key topics, including the repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy...


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KEYWORDS: dadt; fdrq; homnosexualagenda; idiot; major; marines; sergeant
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To: ozdragon

Yeah, the issue is that Obama has faggotized the damned armed forces. The Marine Corps, The Air Force, etc., no longer exist as they did. They now WELCOME degeneracy and perversion. I have no respect for anyone who has joined up from this year forward. And this cowardly, scumbag Marine can go straight to hell where he belongs.


51 posted on 06/22/2011 6:44:41 PM PDT by greene66
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To: ozdragon; greene66; darkwing104

FR does not support sex perverts in the military or any other digusting slimey facet of the homosexual agenda.

They aren’t “gay” which means “happy and carefree”. They are mentally ill people with sick sexual fetishes and their habits and acts cause disease. Homosexuals should seek help, much is available, they are not “born that way”, they can change and many have.

They certainly do not belong in the military any more than pedophiles (many pedophiles are homosexuals too), bestiality afficiandos, kleptomaniacs or anyone else with grave character and behavior flaws.


52 posted on 06/22/2011 6:52:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: greene66

What the military needs more than ever is principled warriors. The fags in the military will not last. It will be over. Without a strong and principles military, our country is finished.

This perversion will not last too long. IMO. If it does, we’re finished as a Republic.


53 posted on 06/22/2011 6:54:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: steve86

Two pages of this sicko’s posts go to 2004. Sure sign of a troll.


54 posted on 06/22/2011 6:55:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ozdragon

IBTZ


55 posted on 06/22/2011 7:01:25 PM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori.)
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To: The Shrew

Q: Whats the difference between an ass kisser and a brown noser?

A: Depth perception

The Sargent Major has a major problem.

Gayness is a “Behavior” not a race ,creed, or color.

He is no better than Weasley Clark.


56 posted on 06/22/2011 7:07:37 PM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard

If you had read his initial comment....

He was brilliant. He said he would obey CIC orders, HOWEVER...the Marines would continue with their discipline, etc.

It was his way of saying, bring them on,m we will deal with them the way we always have...leaves the Marines to do “what they always have.”


57 posted on 06/22/2011 7:08:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Sergio
Luckly, the military is self correcting. If you can be counted on and trusted, your squad mates will look after you as you look after them. You chance of survival just got better. If you cannot be counted on or trusted, no one will look after you, and your chances of survival just got much worse. And this happens regardless of race, creed, gender, or sexual orientation, at least in my opinion.

John Kerry found this out the hard way - luckily for us.

58 posted on 06/22/2011 7:24:37 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: ozdragon
do you really not understand the difference between in the closet homosexuality as up to now, and open overt homosexuality on unit cohesion???
59 posted on 06/22/2011 7:26:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: The Shrew

So, does this mean the sgt major is a little light in the combat boots?


60 posted on 06/22/2011 7:28:33 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: RobinOfKingston
His personal awards include the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star Medal with combat “V” and gold star, Meritorious Service Medal with gold star, Navy Marine Corps Commendation Medal with combat “V” and three gold stars, Navy Marine Corps Achievement Medal with two gold stars, Combat Action Ribbon with gold star, and the Presidential Service Badge.
61 posted on 06/22/2011 8:08:32 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: ozdragon
The real issue is can unit conhesion be maintained with gay people in a unit?

You're asking the wrong question. The nature of the homosexual psychosis is one of selfishness, self-aggrandizing, and a constant need for attention. It's part of why they do what they do. If they can't serve "openly," then they can't be allowed to bring their gay pride parades to us on-post. They can still serve and do great things for their country, but they can't flaunt and scream "look at me!" from the rooftops. With DADT repealed, none of this is the case anymore. They can now make spectacles of themselves, and there's nothing we can do about it in the military since homosexuals are probably the most protected class in all of American politics (Muslims and illegal immigrants being a close tie for second).

In general, I don't have a huge problem with homosexuals in the military, but mostly in the sense of allowing an individual to serve his/her country. It will get far away from that very quickly, mark my words. If it was solely about service, then DADT would've been a perfectly adequate policy.

62 posted on 06/22/2011 8:13:23 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: little jeremiah

Just wait until the perverts march in the ‘pervert’ pride parade with their dress blues on (well, parts of the uniform anyway) with ball gags and dog collars and such..

Did you see the video Massmike posted the other day with wiener and schumer et al at the nyc pervert parade? Disgusting!

My eldest daughter after 8 years is finished with the USMC and my son has a year left and he will not be signing up for another four years. He said most of his friends will quit after their 4 years are up as well.


63 posted on 06/22/2011 8:19:58 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

It has to change, has to. Without a strong military, what will happen to the country? Ruination.


64 posted on 06/22/2011 8:29:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

That’s the whole plan IMHO.. No better way than to destroy decency and integrity by demoralization..


65 posted on 06/22/2011 8:33:16 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: ozdragon
Is there a real issue here?

Yes, it is called homosexual sex. The issue has never been about banning those poor mistreated 'gay' people that. The military has ALWAYS banned those who engage in homosexual sex as they are objectively disordered.

66 posted on 06/22/2011 8:44:37 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Tax-chick

“but it wouldn’t be productive for our national defense, and that’s the real point.”

That’s the only consideration. Most soldiers would probably say that DADT was working pretty well. The openly gay thing had one purpose only, and that was to deconstruct and demoralize the military.


67 posted on 06/22/2011 9:12:56 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

It’s a two-fer. A) Promote evil perversion and B) Destroy the military and thus the entire security of the USA.

And in the process, destroy our Constitutional freedoms of religion, speech and association.


68 posted on 06/22/2011 9:18:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: for-q-clinton
We were in open bay sleeping quarters, open bay showers, and even open bay crapper!

Oh my, recruitment material for the sodomite community.

69 posted on 06/22/2011 9:26:03 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: little jeremiah

Very well put.


70 posted on 06/22/2011 9:28:38 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: haroldeveryman

As I remember, the character “Henry Hill”, the narrator in the movie, actually used the term “bust out”. It’s the only time I’ve run across it prior to your post.


71 posted on 06/22/2011 9:29:56 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Future Snake Eater; beaversmom
The Annual Marine and Navy Balls were always such lavish affairs, can't wait for the homos and dykes to start bringing their partners to the balls, that will be a sight to behold. Obama's military......

"I get the first dance"

72 posted on 06/22/2011 9:42:18 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth
The Annual Marine and Navy Balls were always such lavish affairs

What was once a noun will become a verb.

73 posted on 06/22/2011 9:46:22 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: The Shrew

Or, is there another point you are making?

Semper Fi,

TS
************

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar...

Semper Loyalty Up & Down!
Gunny G
aka: Dick Gaines
*****


74 posted on 06/23/2011 5:03:48 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: The Shrew
My old Drill Instructor Sgt. J.D. Fry ( P.I. Plt. 236 1965) would reach out and punch this guy. This is sickening, but then again talking stupid shiite like this is how he got his rank.
75 posted on 06/23/2011 5:20:21 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: whatisthetruth

Still gives me the creeps to think about. (Shudder)


76 posted on 06/23/2011 7:35:40 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: The Shrew

“What could the senior Marine leadership - both enlisted and officer done to prevent this?”

Yours is a very good point. I don’t know what the circumstances are at the upper levels, but hopefully, the “self-correction” I spoke of, working at the platoon and squad level, will make for a military we can always be proud of.


77 posted on 06/23/2011 8:31:18 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: An American!

Sounds like you know a bit about the bible. Why does the Bible specifically call out & condemn Male-Male sex but Woman on Woman sex is left out?


78 posted on 06/23/2011 9:20:14 AM PDT by RC51
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To: An American!

The vast majority of heterosexuals engage in sodomy as defined in Article 125 and the Manual for Courts-Martial since it includes a prohibition against oral sex.


79 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:53 AM PDT by RC51
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To: An American!

You see, there is your problem. “They” do not see the bible as anything other than a cultist pamphlet.

In their mind, you are a robot believing stuff that was written two thousand years ago as “true.”

So, catch up with the 21st Century!

//sarcasm off!


80 posted on 06/23/2011 9:27:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Is there anyone that Obama won't toss under the bus?)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
No better way than to destroy decency and integrity by demoralization.

I believe the demoralization goes deeper than this one issue. America is demoralized every time it turns on the TV or the radio and experiences the filth that is popular "culture".

81 posted on 06/23/2011 12:30:49 PM PDT by Route797
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To: RC51
Why does the Bible specifically call out & condemn Male-Male sex but Woman on Woman sex is left out?

Women aren't excluded. Romans 1:26 - 28

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.

28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

82 posted on 06/23/2011 12:36:04 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok

It is very specific about men being with men, but quite generic with women:
“vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature”

This could mean lots of different things, since it is a woman’s nature to give birth this could maybe even cover abortion. Or maybe it mean’s the woman engaging in anal sex? Why is there Woman lays with a woman as she would a man kind of verse? Or a verse like woman acting as if she was a man.


83 posted on 06/23/2011 1:56:51 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

Before Clinton normalized oral sodomy it wasn’t so universally accepted as normal and natural. Many happily married couples do not practice oral sodomy.


84 posted on 06/23/2011 8:21:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RC51

It’s quite clear that the Bible is saying that men gratifying their sexual lust with other men, and women gratifying their sexual lust with other women, is sinful and unnatural. Pretty simple.


85 posted on 06/23/2011 8:24:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Not the way I read it. To me, the only thing that is clear is Men doing other men is prohibited. As far as women go they shouldn’t act “un-naturally” whatever that means?

Maybe the verses on women in the original Hebrew would make sense. Maybe something is being lost in the translation to english that comes out women acting against nature.


86 posted on 06/23/2011 9:08:23 PM PDT by RC51
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To: little jeremiah

One curious thing about the Bible. Of all the worst kinds of people, the bible seems to most frequently condemn.... Not Gays but Tax Collectors!


87 posted on 06/23/2011 9:16:24 PM PDT by RC51
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To: jmaroneps37

Right with ya. My Gunny was a two tourer of Vietnam. Taught us well. Our three striper was a bit of a psycho, but again taught us well.
This goof is following orders or protecting his job.

Infecting the Marines with this kind of perversity will only handicap them. Name one of our potential adversaries that is doing this. You can’t. Because even Malaysia doesn’t play PC games with national defense.

out.


88 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:55 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: RC51

Sounds as though you don’t want to read the simple truth that’s clear as day.

And the same prohibition against unnatural sex acts is there in every religion in the world.

It’s not some sectarian historical viewpoint against some kinds of sex acts. It’s Natural Law, and it’s universal and indeed, written in the heart of everyone. That’s why fags feel guilty, their conscience - God’s voice inside - telling them that what they are doing is wrong. That’s why they want to silence everyone, they’re trying to silence that quiet voice inside their hearts. It’s also why they have such a huge rate of drugs and alcoholism - trying to silence that voice.

It seems that you want to pretend that women having sex with women is okay or something. What utter nonsense.


89 posted on 06/23/2011 9:37:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Chode

“Semper Fabulous???”

Semper Fab. Somebody’s gonna have a good time with that.


90 posted on 06/23/2011 11:05:15 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: little jeremiah

Nope - I just wonder why the Bible doesn’t explicitly say woman on woman is bad like it does man on man...

The biblical view of woman’s sexuality is probably a lot different than in modern times. I wonder if maybe lesbian’s didn’t exist or maybe it was so well hidden that men (all the writers of the bible were men) never imagined that women would or could engage in sex. Maybe the biblical view of sex was like Bill Clinton’s (only penetration = sex) and women lack the equipment so...

Or like I said before maybe the original Hebrew words of the Bible don’t translate as well in regards to lesbians.

But you can’t deny the bible is very explicit about male homosexuality while quite vague in regards to lesbianism.


91 posted on 06/23/2011 11:06:56 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

It’s only vague in your mind, not in the words, nor in anyone elses’ mind.


92 posted on 06/23/2011 11:10:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RC51
This could mean lots of different things

I suppose it could... if God had gave you up to a reprobate mind.

93 posted on 06/23/2011 11:48:34 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: The Shrew

Good topic...deserving, I think, of a new Gunny G site...

GUNNY G: THEN THEY CAME FOR THE MARINES...(BETTER MEN HAVE TRIED...)

;)

Semper Loyalty Up AND Down!
Just Plain Dick
*****


94 posted on 06/24/2011 5:27:53 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: calex59

>I’d bet all the money I own that this guy was ordered to give this speech in just the way he gave it.<

That was my thought as well. I would like to have been a fly on the wall in the private conversation he had with the people he trusted in the room after the public talk.


95 posted on 06/24/2011 7:39:16 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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