Skip to comments.More and more Swedish women are having 3 kids
Posted on 06/22/2011 5:10:13 PM PDT by WesternCulture
(Translation from Swedish into English:)
Stockholm: More and more Swedish families have a third child.
"Trebarnstrenden," - The "three children trend" which has become increasingly manifest since the 1990s, was unexpected by demographers at Statistics Sweden (SCB), which lies behind the study.
- We had expected a reduction of third child births given that women become older when they have their first child, about 29 years, and therefore would have a hard time getting a third child, says Lotta Persson, demographer at Statistics Sweden who carried out the study.
Even in the early 1990s there were many who got a third child, but the economic crisis later in the decade meant that the trend was broken.
The recent financial crisis around 2008 may have influenced the current trend.
- We saw no increase in giving birth to a third child in 2009 compared to 2008, and it may have been an effect of the financial crisis, says Lotta Persson.
Education, income, country of birth and neighborhood impact are some factors that influence the propensity to have a third child.
What are the factors of greatest importance is difficult to say, according to Lotta Persson.
- It's hard to rank them, and they can also affect each other. Income definitely is important. It is among the highest income that one is inclined to have children, but even among those with the lowest incomes, she says.
Level of education often go hand in hand with income. Therefore, it is common for people with high incomes to have three children. But it is also common among low-skilled and low-income couples.
Fertility rate, a measure of how many children women give birth to, is around 2.0 in Sweden of today. Experts generally have been expecting that figure to drop to 1.8, but may have to reconsider.
"That figure may now be increased", according to Lotta Persson.
One is prone to believe that Muslims are taking over the country by and by, but evidently the aggressive Nordic middle class won't allow that to happen within a near future..
More blond, blue eyed Viking babies on the way.
How Racist that is!
Lets hope so. Future iterations of the Swedish bikini team are at stake. A muslim version of such is not something I want to see.
Actually, I think I aged an additonal 29 years when I had the third child, not the first. He was a real nightmare.
Does this article refer specifically to ethnic Swedes, or are non-Swedish “Swedes” included, the way rampaging Algerian “youths” - but born in France! - are “French”?
Lol, yes the first one lulls you into complacency. Then come the REAL children!
But somehow, in spite of being 59 in 1997 ;-), I went on to have children 4 through 9.
‘Lotta Persson’ sounds like a big woman. ;-)
I think a birthrate of 2.1 is the replacement rate so you may have to work harder at this.
“...especially well educated middle class/upper middle class Swedes constituting the professional core of the nation.”
I wouldn't be so sure. In the US it's immigrant populations that are keeping our birth rate higher.
“Lets hope so. Future iterations of the Swedish bikini team are at stake. A muslim version of such is not something I want to see”
- Sincere thanks for your kind, courteous and chivalric words concerning Scandinavian females.
In return, we will spare your family and your landing stage upon our next visit,
If you think your first child makes you become older....the third makes you become ancient!!! (Speaking from loving experience)
I’ll be happy to ‘help’ with that whole ‘increase the population’ thing ya’ll got goin’ on over there. Let it never be said that we Americans aren’t ready to render any and all aid to those in need ;)
and NOT with Muslim dudes!
“I wouldn’t be so sure. In the US it’s immigrant populations that are keeping our birth rate higher”
- In Sweden, things appear to be different.
Okay, Sweden is a very small country compared to the US, but I still find it rather interesting that the segment of the Swedish population that is breeding the most isn’t Muslim immigrants, but well educated, well paid professional class citizens residing in places like Södermalm of Inner Stockholm.
When it comes to Stockholm demographics, Muslim low income earners originating from Africa actually display the lowest of fertility rates of all ethnic groups found in Scandinavia’s largest city.
In the event that any Swedish lass needs any assistance...
See Post 14... See? This is the kind of thing that unites Americans and brings out the best in us ;)
“Good, now have a 4th, and a 5th, and a...”
- Thanks a lot for your support.
More Swedish children are needed.
Today, Sweden is a way more technologically advanced nation than neighboring Russia, but we are in need of a broader population base in order to systematically reduce Russian influence over North European matters.
‘Tis a noble thing that we offer our aid. Remember, it’s “for the children.” :-)
Europe is not dead. A substantial majority of the population is western, and they can still choose to save their culture . . . or they can follow Al Gore’s advice and simply die out, stop having children.
What a bunch of BS, it says at the end the birth rate today is 2.0; so the whole story is if and and/or maybes, but no real increase in birthrate.
“Tis a noble thing that we offer our aid. Remember, its for the children. :-)”
And we ask for nothing in return. A fine example for others are we. Americans - a giving people ;)
There are also many women here in their 30’s who have 3 kids.My youngest sister is one of them.Several of my nieces and nephew friends have 3 or more kids in their families.
Does this article refer specifically to ethnic Swedes, or are non-Swedish Swedes included, the way rampaging Algerian youths - but born in France! - are French?
i think that is a brilliant question, by Tax-chick !
the time frame when the increase started, matches the increase in Muslim immigration.
perhaps there is some increase in native swedes. but, it seems to count everyone as Swedes, and if a Muslim was born there, and has 3 kids, it is not separted.
(similar to how in France, it’s actually illegal to keep rape statistics by Muslims separate.)
“Even among Swedes who were born abroad are more likely to have a third child.”
yet the overall rate is still below 2. i think it is the same as in England and France, where the high Muslim rate is masked by the low ethnic rate, and they take care NOT to report them separately...
Let loose the boss wiles of the female Swede. Fight mulitplying-muzzie fire with...the dulcet Swedish siren song: "Bounty of Beautiful Begats" LULZ. ;-)
“In the event that any Swedish lass needs any assistance...”
- Like I’ve said before on this forum, many Swedish women seem to fancy American men.
Judging by the solid and all mature impression you have made upon me, fellow Freeper, I have no doubts introducing you to lascivious women I know over here in Sweden!
Buy me a beer and together we’ll.. - Hrrm, - enjoy a pleasant time courtly entertaining female companions of my native tribe!
Heaven and Hell -
“There are also many women here in their 30s who have 3 kids.My youngest sister is one of them.Several of my nieces and nephew friends have 3 or more kids in their families.”
- Good work!
The World needs more of Westerners.
Greetings from proud Volvo Land!
i read your link, and while i certainly hope for the best, there were many comments there that raised questions.
again, specific numbers are lacking. the Muslim rate might drop by 50%, from 6 to 3... etc.
“No hard data in this article at all. This sentence could mean anything. Muslim birthrates declining could mean they’ve gone from 7 children per family to 6 for all we know.
...also, in polygamy, the rate for each wife tends to be lower. in England, they legally pay welfare for ALL wives now.
...and across Europe the ethnic rate is well below 2, and is MUCH higher for Muslims, even 2nd generation.
(bin Laden himself, was quoted as saying getting unmarried muslim women married (so they could have more babies) was MORE important to him, than ANY terrorism activities...
they understand demographics...
Low fertility in Europe — is there still reason to worry?
“Nowadays, 1 in 5 babies in Europe has a mother who was born abroad. “
I’m the oldest of three sisters. Three is a BAD number for siblings — two always gang up on the third.
Dunno how it happened, but I ended up with a son and a daughter, in that order. Heh, that was almost as unbalanced! ;-)
But the alliances shift constantly! I'm the oldest of three sisters too, but we also have a brother. Funny, in the 60's and 70's, four kids was a small family.
I have no hard time understanding how a bunch of three or four sisters could end up in eternal quarreling. My mother grew up in a family like that.
I reckon some families are pretty tough growing up in.
I will always look up to my grandfather. But he was indeed very, very demanding and rigid.
He worked as an executive of a major Swedish insurance company.
He didn’t exactly fancy the reports he got from teachers sent to him informing him on how his daughters behaved at school in the 1950’s.
Discipline is a good thing, but I’m proud to say I know how to control people without using physical force and violence.
School shouldn’t be about control. It should be about mutual respect.
“School shouldnt be about control. It should be about mutual respect.”
- Schools indeed should be environments dedicated to education and learning. Furthermore, they should be loving and caring in nature.
European schools of the 1950’s were seldom like that.
When my mother or any of her sisters once in a while got a little cocky in class and spoke back to the teacher, her parents - my maternal grandparents - would soon get informed and believe me, you would not like to be in the place of these teenagers.
Later on, Grandpa’s daughters got married to military officers, engineers and splendid scholars. Men of good breed and of ambition in life.
I went to University. My grandfathers did not. I never even met my paternal Grandfather. He died at the age of 55 two years before I was born.
My uncle fought Stalin, got shot in the Winter War and then went back to the front. He didn’t wish to experience his sisters getting raped by Russian troops.
We Europeans have pretty much of a heavy rucksack, but that doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy life. We know just how magnificent America could be like, despite the fact Hitler existed some decades ago on your soil..
“More blond, blue eyed Viking babies on the way.”
Hooray! Sweden leads the way. White people need to have more kids.
I’m very sorry I only had one, myself. It’s my biggest regret.
We’re sll best friends NOW, but at any given time growing up, I’d have paid someone to take one of them away. WHICH one varied almost daily!
If Sweden can buck that trend, however, my hat's off to them!
we’ll see about that!