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Marriage Is a Mixed Blessing (NYT SLIME-BARF ALERT)
New York Times ^ | June 24, 2011 | KATHERINE M. FRANKE

Posted on 06/24/2011 12:43:51 PM PDT by lbryce

WILL the New York State Legislature ultimately put itself on the right side of history by allowing same-sex couples to marry? Many of us in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community, amazed at how quickly public opinion has evolved on this issue, are eager for this historic civil rights victory.

My hope comes with some worry, however.

While many in our community have worked hard to secure the right of same-sex couples to marry, others of us have been working equally hard to develop alternatives to marriage. For us, domestic partnerships and civil unions aren’t a consolation prize made available to lesbian and gay couples because we are barred from legally marrying. Rather, they have offered us an opportunity to order our lives in ways that have given us greater freedom than can be found in the one-size-fits-all rules of marriage.

It’s not that we’re antimarriage; rather, we think marriage ought to be one choice in a menu of options by which relationships can be recognized and gain security. Like New York City’s mayor, Michael R. Bloomberg, who has been in a relationship for over 10 years without marrying, one can be an ardent supporter of marriage rights for same-sex couples while also recognizing that serious, committed relationships can be formed outside of marriage.

Here’s why I’m worried: Winning the right to marry is one thing; being forced to marry is quite another. How’s that? If the rollout of marriage equality in other states, like Massachusetts, is any guide, lesbian and gay people who have obtained health and other benefits for their domestic partners will be required by both public and private employers to marry their partners in order to keep those rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abomination; gay; gaymarriage; marriage; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes
Wading through the waist-high slime that is the daily read at the NYT, this item "Marriage is A Mixed Blessing" caught my eye. Inocuous enough. But glancing at the title of the article as provided by my browser's tab, I did a double-take. While the title of this pro-gay rant appears on the web page as "Marriage is a Mixed Blessing", the actual title of the article as intended to be published as is "Same Sex Marriage is a Mixed Blessing". The title as listed in the tab "Same Sex Marriage is a Mixed Blessing" is what also appears in the subject if you try emailing it.

Hey, New York Slimes! Here at FR we are on to all the slime you choose to propagate.

in the tab

1 posted on 06/24/2011 12:43:55 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

This writer is confirming what many of us fear. Namely, that monogamous homosexual marriage is just a way station on the way to fulfilling another agenda.

Some gays activists have said that the goal is to force monogamous marriage on society. Then, having established the concept of homosexual marriage, they can move on from there to “polyamory”, “polygamy”, or groups of people of any gender living together as family units. Once they demolish the concept of monogamous opposite sex marriage, then it will pave the way for any other type of relationship having to be legally recognized. Eventually there will be lawsuits to force recognition of groups of people living together on the same legal basis as marriage.

Note how she laments that in Massachusetts, the norm of monogamy hasn’t been lifted yet?????


2 posted on 06/24/2011 12:51:10 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: lbryce

They’re so bold these days, it just baffles the mind. They’re out to destroy our society, and they as much as say so in public. I really hope this latest offensive backfires massively.


3 posted on 06/24/2011 12:55:06 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: RecoveringPaulisto

Why don’t gays be honest and say they want to be “married” for the financial benefits instead of all the blather about wanting to legalize a “committed relationship”.


4 posted on 06/24/2011 1:23:37 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; LottieDah

Money is the least of the reasons. The real reasons are explained in their own words. They want to destroy the meaning of marriage and family and remake society to suit them. Into a sodomy free for all.

From LA Times of March 12: ...
“Divided over gay marriage” by Roy Rivenburg Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor who runs the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, recommends legalizing a wide variety of marriage alternatives, including polyamory, or group wedlock. An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations.
One aim, she says, is to break the stranglehold that married heterosexual couples have on health benefits and legal rights. The other goal is to “push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society.” ... [snip]

An excerpt from: In Their Own Words: The Homosexual Agenda:
“Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine (Dec/Jan 1994):

“A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake —and one that would perhaps benefit all of society—is to transform the notion of family entirely.”

“Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us.”

Chris Crain, the editor of the Washington Blade has stated that all homosexual activists should fight for the legalization of same-sex marriage as a way of gaining passage of federal anti-discrimination laws that will provide homosexuals with federal protection for their chosen lifestyle.

Crain writes: “...any leader of any gay rights organization who is not prepared to throw the bulk of their efforts right now into the fight for marriage is squandering resources and doesn’t deserve the position.” (Washington Blade, August, 2003).

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater “understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman.”

He notes: “The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness.” (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor and homosexual activist has said:
“Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. . Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family; and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society’s view of reality.” (partially quoted in “Beyond Gay Marriage,”

Stanley Kurtz, The Weekly Standard, August 4, 2003)
Evan Wolfson has stated:

“Isn’t having the law pretend that there is only one family model that works (let alone exists) a lie? . marriage is not just about procreation-indeed is not necessarily about procreation at all. “(quoted in “What Marriage Is For,” by Maggie Gallagher, The Weekly Standard, August 11, 2003)

Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says:

“Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I’d be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of ‘till death do us part’ and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play.” (quoted in “Now Free To Marry, Canada’s Gays Say, ‘Do I?’” by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003)

1972 Gay Rights Platform Demands: “Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit.”

[Also among the demands was the elimination of all age of consent laws.]


5 posted on 06/24/2011 1:35:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: lbryce; wagglebee
any of us in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community, amazed at how quickly public opinion has evolved on this issue, are eager for this historic civil rights victory. My hope comes with some worry, however.

They want the "right" to be married but they don't actually want to BE married, all of those unmarried "partnerships" will no longer be eligible for employer benefits.

6 posted on 06/24/2011 1:45:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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To: lbryce; wagglebee
any of us in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community, amazed at how quickly public opinion has evolved on this issue, are eager for this historic civil rights victory. My hope comes with some worry, however.

They want the "right" to be married but they don't actually want to BE married, all of those unmarried "partnerships" will no longer be eligible for employer benefits.

7 posted on 06/24/2011 1:45:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Bill Ayers said that the Weather Underground engaged in partner swapping and that he engaged in same sex relations to “smash monogamy”.

Sex positive “revolutionaries” want to end all moral judgements over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partners.


8 posted on 06/24/2011 1:50:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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To: lbryce
"I don't hate fags or lesbians. I just feel better when they're not around."

FMCDH(BITS)

9 posted on 06/24/2011 1:55:39 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: lbryce

Will be a billion plus legal industry. Can’t wait for the palimony suits to start hitting in California.

They also want to target churches. Any church refusing to do a ‘gay marriage’ can lose its tax exempt status. NEVER hear this mentioned.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 2:43:14 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: lbryce
propagate or Reproduce - That is the Problem with the "Gay Gene" theory.

Scientifically, none of the studies has been reproducible.

The 1993 Hamer study Cherry Picked the Data. Did not have a control group and did not check on the brothers of Gay men in the study (an obvious data point)

The 1991 Gay Twin study by Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard also excluded checks on any brothers. The theory that gay twins were 100% gay turned out to be false.

The “Hypothalamus Study,” conducted in 1991 by Dr. Simon LeVay was supposedly based on the idea that cadavers of 19 men of which only 6 he knew the sexual proclivities. The sample was too small, had questionable conclusions and has not been reproducable.

In logical fact, a gay gene would exclude itself from the human genome according to natural selection theories. Gays with the gene would not reproduce and therefore the majority would not pass on any theoretical gene.

No, the "Gay Gene" theory is Bunkus and so is the rush to make Gay Marriage the law of the country. The big result of such would be the end of free speech. Just ask any Orthodox Priest or Pastor in Canada.

11 posted on 06/24/2011 2:43:39 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Dilbert San Diego

don’t think they won’t inlcude incest and pedophilia in that


12 posted on 06/24/2011 2:52:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: little jeremiah

We’re doomed.


13 posted on 06/24/2011 3:44:33 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: GeronL

Pedophilia is definitely part of the “gay” agenda they don’t want to publically mention too much at this point. We’re not “ready” - although some psychologists have promoted it as harmless or even healthy for some time.


14 posted on 06/24/2011 5:05:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

those “psychologists” are nuts


15 posted on 06/24/2011 5:08:04 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t see us as doomed; but as close to a healing crisis. I think we’ll hit rock bottom - almost there - and then turn around the other way - back to moral principles.

Rough road, though.


16 posted on 06/24/2011 5:15:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Just a reminder of why the homosexual agenda pushers really want same sex marriage. Plus, to destroy our freedoms of speech, association and religion.

17 posted on 06/24/2011 5:18:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Thank you Sir for you enlighten post.


18 posted on 06/24/2011 5:34:29 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: lbryce

Bookmarked... thank you for digging this article out of the sewer.


19 posted on 06/24/2011 5:37:50 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: LowOiL

Thank you - I got those quotes years ago and the first one doesn’t have a date, but you can clearly see they reveal themselves in their own words.

(Btw I’m a ma’am but it’s hard to tell from my name!)


20 posted on 06/24/2011 5:40:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: a fool in paradise
They want the "right" to be married but they don't actually want to BE married, all of those unmarried "partnerships" will no longer be eligible for employer benefits.

Just like they want to be able to serve openly in the military, but the ones most vocal in demanding it will never even consider ACTUALLY serving.
21 posted on 06/24/2011 5:45:37 PM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: little jeremiah
The real reasons are explained in their own words. They want to destroy the meaning of marriage and family and remake society to suit them.

Right. Their real burden is the existence of heterosexual marriage, which is powerfully normative. Simply by existing and continuing and fructifying with new generations, loving heteronormative marriage shows them up as perverts, liars, sterile hedonists, and empty dead ends.

22 posted on 06/25/2011 2:30:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: GeronL; little jeremiah
those “psychologists” are nuts

One of the first organized political pushes they made was to roll the psychiatric profession. Today, (gay-dominated) Division 44 of the American Psychological Association makes the "rules" about what is normal, healthy sexuality.

The truth is, gays are half-nuts to begin with, and they had to get rid of the (righteous and true) stigma ..... some researchers were getting uncomfortably close to the truth, which was that homosexuality is in large part (about half the time, most of the time in the case of lesbianism) propagated by older homosexuals traducing young people (pederasty, ephebophilia). Totally exposing that "mechanism" would have been a PR disaster, so they had to hijack the profession that owned the truth about homosexuality and its etiology -- which they did, in 1972.

23 posted on 06/25/2011 2:37:33 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: TigerClaws
Any church refusing to do a ‘gay marriage’ can lose its tax exempt status. NEVER hear this mentioned.

Heterosexuals can look forward to a "reign of terror" ..... and Christians, to a reintroduction of formal persecution, imho. It's already started.

24 posted on 06/25/2011 2:41:54 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Everything you write is absolutely correct. And persecution has been going on for years and not just to Christians but anyone who is opposed to the fag agenda, especially of course religious believers.

It will get much worse. The amazing thing is how it’s been allowed to get this bad. The gov must be larded with fags. And of course leftists, and the Rs are damned eunuchs or have skeletons in their own closets.

How many “Mark Foleys” are waiting in the wings? How many Rs are closeted homos??


25 posted on 06/25/2011 5:47:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: lbryce
allowing same-sex couples to marry

You can call it what you want.....

.....But it will never be MARRIAGE.

History defines it, you might be able to get lawyers to make a technical rule that it means what you want it to mean, but you can't change the meaning for real. The real, substantial, and historical meaning is a "union between a man and a woman".

26 posted on 06/25/2011 10:42:46 AM PDT by SteamShovel (The RADIATION PIMPS...are RATS)
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To: lbryce
Gays , liberals and lawyers want this.

Gays and liberals to destroy western life.................lawyers, well divorce is profit for them.

27 posted on 06/25/2011 10:48:11 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: lbryce
Here’s why I’m worried: Winning the right to marry is one thing; being forced to marry is quite another. How’s that? If the rollout of marriage equality in other states, like Massachusetts, is any guide, lesbian and gay people who have obtained health and other benefits for their domestic partners will be required by both public and private employers to marry their partners in order to keep those rights.


28 posted on 06/25/2011 10:48:37 AM PDT by RichInOC ("ARMAGEDDON!!!" *BOOM!* "And the rodents' red glare...gerbils bursting in air...")
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To: HushTX

The lavender mafia advocates IN the media will remain closeted. Every network has a gay anchor even though they are only 2% of the population.

Don’t tell us “don’t ask, don’t tell” is “so bad” if the gay advocates in the nightly news are going to remain closeted as to WHY this issue is “so” important to them.


29 posted on 06/25/2011 3:40:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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