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Wallace Demonstrates Flaky Journalism
America Talks ^ | 6/26/11 | David Zublick

Posted on 06/26/2011 11:42:41 AM PDT by AmericaTalks

On his program Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace asked his guest, presidential candidate Michele Bachmann if she was a flake.

Bachmann seemed perturbed by the question, and rightly so, and then proceeded to answer the question with coherence, grace and dignity. She responded by saying "well, I think that would be insulting, to say something like that, because I'm a serious person". Bachmann pointed out that she has been married 33 years, is a lawyer, has a post-doctorate degree in federal tax law, worked in the U.S. federal tax court, has five children, raised 23 foster children and opened a charter school for at-risk youth.

"I've also been a state senator and a member of the United States Congress for five years. I've been very active in our business. As a job creator, I understand job creation. But also I've been leading actively the movement in Washington, D.C., with those who are affiliated with fiscal reform," Bachmann said.

Wallace's question was an ugly example of shoddy journalism, the kind of "gotcha" question reserved for Republicans, and especially Republican women, in what can only be described as a double standard set by the mainstream media that gives liberals a pass.

Wallace asked the question because in some circles Bachmann is perceived as gaffe prone. To be fair, she has made a few mistakes, but has come a long way since the "anti-American" comment in November of 2008.

But where was the media when Barack Obama, while campaigning for president in 2008, said he had visited "57" states, referred to a "bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor", declared that Memorial Day honors "an unbroken line of fallen heroes - and I see many of them in the audience here today"?

Yes, political candidates do make embarrassing remarks on the campaign trail, but once elected, every speech, every move will be without flaw, because should something go awry, the media will be all over it, such as when Obama picked the name of a dead hero as a live Medal of Honor winner, referring to a military medic as a "corpseman", and botching a toast to Queen Elizabeth II, right?

Maybe not.

Wallace did offer one of those back-handed apologies on the Fox News website, the kind where one says "if anyone was offended, I'm sorry".

That's not good enough. This was a hit job on Bachmann, one for which she should be insulted. But journalists should also be insulted, as should every American. There is no place in the news media for this kind of attack.

And although we have come to expect this sort of thing from the talk hosts at MSNBC, or the writers at the Huffington Post, one would expect better from a Sunday morning news and analysis program, especially one on Fox.

Shame on you, Chris Wallace. That question was flaky journalism.

Listen to America Talks Monday through Friday at 6 pm Eastern Time and Saturdays at 9 am Eastern Time at www.blogtalkradio.com/americatalks and at www.americatalks.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; chriswallace; flake; fox; foxnewssunday; journalism; michelebachmann; wallace
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To: AmericaTalks

Flaky journalism indeed he must be pimping Rummy.


51 posted on 06/26/2011 1:51:10 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: AmericaTalks
Chis Wallace and FOX can go to hell. Would Chrissy ask the same question of “57 States” Barry Hussien?

Hell no!

Fox, get your head out of your ass. I will not be watching Chris ever again!!!!

Make that 2, my wife warned me about Chris.

52 posted on 06/26/2011 1:54:36 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: freespirited
Palin should drive over to FOX and kick Chris's ASS!
53 posted on 06/26/2011 1:58:20 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: freespirited
Palin should drive over to FOX and kick Chris's ASS!
54 posted on 06/26/2011 1:58:27 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Bayou Dittohead
"Wallace. I know he is not a conservative, but he usually does ask difficult questions to both sides."

Uhhh, do you think Wallace would ever ask Debbie Wasserman-Putz if she's a flake?

I didn't think so.

55 posted on 06/26/2011 2:02:52 PM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: yoe

I don’t worry about these kinds if interviews as they allow our candidates to show everyone what they are made of.


56 posted on 06/26/2011 2:04:18 PM PDT by Chandalier (Obama is a Chicken Hawk!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
It's considered post-doctural work by lawyers with a JD. I hope the MSM does try to make an issue of it, because it will only spread the word far and wide that she has a JD and an LLM, and whatever you may think about that being "damaging," it isn't. Stupid people don't get LLM's.
57 posted on 06/26/2011 2:12:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("It looks just like a Telefunken U47.....with leather.")
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To: narses

“You are being pedantic.”

Yes, very much so.

JD is not a “doctorate” as most in academia use the word. Looking at wiki, I see it is a three year program without a dissertation. Masters level. I would refer to a JSD as a “doctorate” as it is PhD level, requires a dissertation and is required to be offered a tenure track position.

There’s no reason for her to pad her resume to impress people. She should simply refer to her LLM as “post-graduate”.


58 posted on 06/26/2011 2:13:43 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: FredZarguna

Are you a lawyer?


59 posted on 06/26/2011 2:15:40 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Pedantry is not attractive. Most attornies would agree with MB’s phraseology. To me, it matters not even a tittle.


60 posted on 06/26/2011 2:27:16 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: FredZarguna
It's considered post-doctural work by lawyers with a JD.
Of course, because IT IS. That is to those who actually have done the work. The pedant class, like the media class, cannot get that simple fact.
61 posted on 06/26/2011 2:28:58 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: narses

“Most attornies would agree with MB’s phraseology.” Are you an attorney?

Would they? I don’t know frankly. Wiki doesn’t and while that is not an authoritative source, its “crowd sourcing” nature would imply that most attorneys would not.

Again, I don’t think she needs to pad her resume. She should simply refer to it as a “post-graduate” degree and let it go at that.


62 posted on 06/26/2011 2:44:15 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: narses

Are you a lawyer?


63 posted on 06/26/2011 2:47:31 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

What does it matter? The issue is simple - you are a self confessed pedant. So be it. MB was accurate, you dislike that fact. (And yes, a Juris Doctorate IS a Doctorate, and an LLM is a POST doctoral degree in the legal community.) What I do for a living, or not, is not the issue here.


64 posted on 06/26/2011 2:56:41 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: haircutter
...the guy is in his late 70’s..over the hill so to speak...

And nuttier than grandma's peanut brittle.

65 posted on 06/26/2011 3:00:37 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: AmericaTalks
I couldnt beleive he asked her that. She kicked his ass with her well spoken reply. Do you think he would have ever asked Shrillary Klinton that? Or Hussein?

I will be sending him an email.

66 posted on 06/26/2011 3:07:14 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960

fns@foxnews.com


67 posted on 06/26/2011 3:14:56 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: tallyhoe
"Are you a liberal? Cause that is what the left calls Fox News!"

LOL>>>well, every once in a while they're right.
Kinda like a stopped clock.

68 posted on 06/26/2011 3:33:56 PM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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To: AmericaTalks

just teboed fox snooze sunday with chipmunk.

chipmunk really embarassed himself.


69 posted on 06/26/2011 3:40:37 PM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: narses

“What does it matter?”

Well it matters because you are telling us what is true and what is not true.

So you’re not a lawyer. That’s fine. I despise lawyers.

I’ve never heard any lawyer refer to themselves as having a “doctorate”. In every single case, they say “I have a law degree.” A JD is a professional degree and not a doctorate as most (the few being you and another poster so far) would think of it.

My point, again, is that she leaves her open to the charge of resume padding. Why? Just refer to it at a “post-graduate” degree.


70 posted on 06/26/2011 4:03:44 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
So you’re not a lawyer.
Really? Where did I say that?
I’ve never heard any lawyer refer to themselves as having a “doctorate”.
So, you don't get out much. Many times I have heard that.
My point, again, is that she leaves her open to the charge of resume padding.
No. Not even a little. She would be guilty of that if she claimed that she had a degree that she did NOT have. To call the degree she got AFTER she got her Doctor of Laws a "post doctoral degree" is simply factual.
71 posted on 06/26/2011 4:07:49 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
No, but I do have a PhD, and I have done post-doctoral work.
72 posted on 06/26/2011 4:29:35 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("It looks just like a Telefunken U47.....with leather.")
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
what type of law degree does Obama and his wife have??

I believe they both lost their license...is that a fact?
are they still entitled to be referred to as Lawyers?

so just maybe Michele Brachmann’s resume looks a little stronger than the Obama’s..

73 posted on 06/26/2011 4:39:59 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: narses

“is simply factual”

I’m the pendant here and I say that a degree gotten after even a real doctorate isn’t a “post-doctoral” degree. That is unless it is one of those super PhD’s awarded in Russia but that is overly pedantic even for me.


74 posted on 06/26/2011 4:57:47 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: evad

My response would be No, are you a jerk, because that is an insulting jerk question.

Then I woudld have launched into her excellent answer.


75 posted on 06/26/2011 5:01:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

76 posted on 06/26/2011 5:26:35 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
J.D. - Juris Doctorate

LLM - "post"-doctorate degree for Bachman

How dare she call her J.D. a "doctorate" degree!

Are you trying to make yourself look like a flake, FRiend, or are you just confused? You can quibble with the definition of what a J.D. is, but the degree has "doctorate" in one of the two words that comprise its title.

Your post reminds me of those who try and dissect what Sarah Palin says, only to find out that Palin was technically right, and people like you are wrong.

77 posted on 06/27/2011 8:54:00 AM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
J.D. - Juris Doctorate

LLM - "post"-doctorate degree for Bachman

How dare she call her J.D. a "doctorate" degree!

Are you trying to make yourself look like a flake, FRiend, or are you just confused? You can quibble with the definition of what a J.D. is, but the degree has "doctorate" in one of the two words that comprise its title.

Your post reminds me of those who try and dissect what Sarah Palin says, only to find out that Palin was technically right, and people like you are wrong.

78 posted on 06/27/2011 8:54:02 AM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: RowdyFFC

the other way to look at this as training /sparring like fighting...just preparing her for a lot worse treatment that’s coming her way.


79 posted on 06/27/2011 9:51:51 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Carling

No, when I try to make myself look like a flake I just post the same message twice.


80 posted on 06/27/2011 4:55:55 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
No, when I try to make myself look like a flake I just post the same message twice.

I'm going to guess, as a 10-year FR member, that you know that at times messages get posted twice, or even three times, for no reason.

Congrats on not addressing the substance of my post(s), though. Judging by your "detective" skills that you exhibited in this thread, I'm not going to expect you to admit that you were wrong, and you looked foolish (even flaky>) in being wrong.

81 posted on 06/27/2011 5:11:33 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: Carling

As a ten year FR member, I try to respect other people’s opinions. It’s hard sometimes but if I didn’t I would be an unhappy person. It’s certainly not how Christ wants me to be.

Also, I would not presume to call an LLM a “post-doctorate” degree. Yes, in the lawyers’ infinite wisdom they did decide to call their first level degree a JD but no one I know would ever claim that an LLM in tax law was a “post-doctorate” degree.

The substance of your post was addressed in the conversation above. There are some who are all in for Bachman and can’t have a civil discussion. Name calling an baseless analogies are their tools.

For myself, she’s not my candidate. I haven’t found one yet. My list only includes those who I can evaluate as leaders and congressmen and congresswomen don’t fall in that category. I know exactly what she thinks about others’ decisions. I have no idea how she would handle the situation where she has too little information to make a decision yet still has to decide.


82 posted on 06/27/2011 5:32:50 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi; Carling
... but no one I know would ever claim that an LLM in tax law was a “post-doctorate” degree.
To repeat, you clearly do not get out much. I polled the dozen LLM's that work in my building. They all agree, you are wrong.
83 posted on 06/27/2011 6:52:06 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Quite literally, Bachman’s LLM is a “post-doctorate” degree, since she completed that degree after getting her doctorate.

What’s your field of study? I have an MBA from the University of Oregon, and a B.S. from Montana State University.


84 posted on 06/27/2011 7:34:57 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Looking at wiki, I see

"Looking at wiki" pretty much shows me all I need to know about you, FRiend. Your needless attacks on Michelle Bachman should be noted by all of FreeRepublic.

85 posted on 06/27/2011 7:37:14 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: narses

“To repeat, you clearly do not get out much. I polled the dozen LLM’s that work in my building. They all agree, you are wrong.”

I don’t get out much not with lawyers at least. Thank God. But if you say they refer to an LLM as a “post-doctorate” degree, I’ll take your word for it.


86 posted on 06/28/2011 4:16:12 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Chickensoup
"My response would be No, are you a jerk, because that is an insulting jerk question."

I try not to take these people too seriously.

87 posted on 06/28/2011 5:21:07 AM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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To: evad

I try not to take these people too seriously.

When someone is in front of a camera and mike being watched by people in the hundreds of thousands to millions, their actions being written about in papers and the net, and read by millions, as he carries water for the leftist totalitarians, I take it very seriously.

For his intent is ultimitely serious, doing the bidding of the global elites.

At the expense of the other 95%. History tells us that creatures of leftist governments kill in horrific numbers.

Anything that increases their power is evil.


88 posted on 06/28/2011 5:27:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: Chickensoup

I was referring to the Freeper


89 posted on 06/28/2011 6:29:43 AM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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To: lonevoice

I see you haven’t wiped it off yet.......


90 posted on 06/28/2011 10:42:40 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (Bow to your sensei.... BOW TO YOUR SENSEI...... www.jackassdemocrats.com)
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