Posted on 07/02/2011 11:40:30 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
I'll agree with you on that one.
Yes, “a frothing bloody mess” is about right.
Too bad too, I had no idea who Marcus was a week ago.
The recent statewide polls seem to indicate a tea party candidate victory. Palin + Bachmann + Paul + Cain is more than Romney + Perry + Huntsman + Gingrich.
The supporters Bachmann, Paul and Cain are likely to go to Palin. The supporters of Gingrich, Perry, Huntsman are likely to go to Romney. Throw in the GOTV strength of the tea party, and it should be a fairly easy victory for Palin.
The math doesn't add up because Perry is popular among those that consider themselves tea party members.
I think that Perry is an Establishment RINO.
Plenty of polls out there are taken without Perry. Tea Party beats Establishment with or without Perry. If you wanted to classify Perry as tea party, it would only increase the tea party numbers. Tea Party wins, even with Perry classified (rightly, I think) as establishment.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/168987-poll-perry-top-pick-for-gop-nominee-among-tea-party
Poll: Gov. Perry top pick for GOP nominee among Tea Party
Twenty percent of Tea Party supporters would like to see Perry as the nominee, according to a McClatchy-Marist poll released Wednesday. Perry displaces former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) as the top Tea Party candidate in Marist's April poll; Huckabee's since withdrawn from the race.
Rollins said a whole lot more than just that, and you know it!
“Unfortunately the more I learn about Bachmann, the less inclined I am to vote for her.”
Fortunately, the more I learn of her the MORE likely I am to vote for her.
“I see this race becoming Palin vs. Romney or Palin vs. Perry.”
I think our analysis is pretty accurate. I think it will be Palin versus Romney because I do not think in the final analysis Perry will run. I could be wrong about that . If he does, he and Romney will have to fight it out in the “not-Palin” mini primary.
I too liked Bachmann. I thought the propinquity of Palin’s recent help for her and her run for the GOP nomination was odd, especially since Bachmann herself said she didn’t even discuss it with Palin. I still refrained from even a comparison of records or experience at that point. But, like many Palin supporters, when she sent the odious Rollins out to smear Palin as “not serious” and “lazy”, it meant that Bachmann’s record and experience, which were always fair game, were now front and center. I do not, in the final analysis think that Bachmann is any threat to Palin. The crowds she is drawing in Iowa are anemic and she is trying to ape Palin’s bus tour. So I don’t think she is a threat. But I did the following vanity about Phil Crane to warn Palnistas not to take Bachmann too lightly either because of the experience with Crane in 1980:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738315/posts
“Palin has a lock on 15-20% of the Republican primary voters outside of the northeast. The Establishment has a lock on 25% nationwide on whomever they can agree upon. Most of the rest of the voters would be inclined to with a true conservative, but won’t dig deep to check out the MSM claims in their reporting. This is where Palin shines. She can get her message out by keeping the media off balance in the role of Wiley Coyote. When Palin finishes on top in Iowa, the others running as conservatives (Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, etc.) will see their support go to Palin and/or Perry, especially after New Hampshire.”
I think that is a very accurate road map for how the race will turn out, especially boiled down to a single paragraph.
“I see this race becoming Palin vs. Romney or Palin vs. Perry.”
I think your analysis is pretty accurate. I think it will be Palin versus Romney because I do not think in the final analysis Perry will run. I could be wrong about that . If he does, he and Romney will have to fight it out in the “not-Palin” mini primary.
I too liked Bachmann. I thought the propinquity of Palin’s recent help for her and her run for the GOP nomination was odd, especially since Bachmann herself said she didn’t even discuss it with Palin. I still refrained from even a comparison of records or experience at that point. But, like many Palin supporters, when she sent the odious Rollins out to smear Palin as “not serious” and “lazy”, it meant that Bachmann’s record and experience, which were always fair game, were now front and center. I do not, in the final analysis think that Bachmann is any threat to Palin. The crowds she is drawing in Iowa are anemic and she is trying to ape Palin’s bus tour. So I don’t think she is a threat. But I did the following vanity about Phil Crane to warn Palnistas not to take Bachmann too lightly either because of the experience with Crane in 1980:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738315/posts
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“Palin has a lock on 15-20% of the Republican primary voters outside of the northeast. The Establishment has a lock on 25% nationwide on whomever they can agree upon. Most of the rest of the voters would be inclined to with a true conservative, but won’t dig deep to check out the MSM claims in their reporting. This is where Palin shines. She can get her message out by keeping the media off balance in the role of Wiley Coyote. When Palin finishes on top in Iowa, the others running as conservatives (Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, etc.) will see their support go to Palin and/or Perry, especially after New Hampshire.”
I think that is a very accurate road map for how the race will turn out, especially boiled down to a single paragraph.
See, this is exactly what I was warning about: http://gawker.com/5817774/all-kinds-of-people-weighing-in-on-marcus-mr-michele-bachmanns-sexuality
Yeah. When the MSM really wants to dig in on that and be relentless, it’s over. But they could just sit on the story.
I like Bachmann, and shes still my 3rd choice (she’s still tea party), but now I have to factor in the downside, which is crushing loss in November 2012.
I’ve been watching this one - @michelebachmann on twitter - to get an idea of what percentage of all talk is “Marcus is gay” talk.
There’s an opportunity here to talk seriously about curing gay. Just by looking and listening to Marcus, someone else who is concerned about the gay epidemic can say something like “I too am concerned about the gay epidemic, but sometimes prayer and prayer alone is not enough to fully cure someone. There’s clearly also a role for science in all of this, and sometimes even professionals are unaware of this.”
There could be a Repubican debate about the best way to cure gay. Science, religion or both. That’s the opportunity.
Many, many people are currently taking SSRIs for depression and perhaps other mental health issues. The problem that has been found in these people is often that the people taking SSRIs don’t have enough Serotonin. Instead of naturally increasing Serotonin levels, through nutritional supplements, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, SSRIs make use of whatever Serotonin a person may have.
Why can’t we do something like this for gay? Gay probably has something to do with too much or too little of one or another hormone. Why is research not being done to determine what type of chemical imbalance a gay has and how to remedy it.
If the whole story is “Marcus Bachmann is the poster boy for what curing gay is all about” that’s not a victory for social / moral / traditional values.
Since we can see this one coming a mile away, and it’s not here yet, I would think that we should have talking points ready that say “science is needed to cure gay”.
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