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Amazon fights California sales tax requirement
LA Times ^ | July 1, 2011 | Marc Lifsher and Andrea Chang,

Posted on 07/02/2011 3:46:49 PM PDT by tflabo

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To: berdie

It seems Amazon would be open for a standardized Federal sales tax to be collected but having to collect sales taxes based on variable rates across the nation could be a logisitics headache. Ca. rakes in multiple billions in tax revenues and still they mismanage it all. Why feed that fat beast any more $$.


21 posted on 07/02/2011 4:34:54 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: tflabo

“I don’t think they’re (Amazon) a particularly good corporate citizen,” said Darnell, who like other affiliates was cut off by Amazon. “We all live in the system and contribute to the state...”

Exactly, Mr Artiste. Keep bowing to the state. And Amazon is trying to save their millions of customers from paying up to 10% more on purchases. To do it, because of this twisted double-taxation law, they had to cut off a relatively tiny percentage of affiliates, most of whom will not be severely impacted.

Amazon had a choice: screw our customers or screw the government. I think they made the right choice and a gutsy one.


22 posted on 07/02/2011 4:37:12 PM PDT by baa39
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To: Soothesayer9
"They will have to go to work like the rest of us. Or create their own job/business."

Very few companies will give them a job. From the age of 55 onwards, experience and work ethic may be very high but opportunities for employment are very low. Perhaps a Walmart greeter or McDonalds 'barista'.

23 posted on 07/02/2011 4:40:14 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: berdie

Gov. Perry Vetoes Internet Tax Bill

http://www.atr.org/gov-perry-vetoes-internet-tax-bill-a6200

I cant believe Tx would even consider this nonsense...


24 posted on 07/02/2011 4:41:07 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: baa39

My take

The only customers subject to the tax would be the California customers. Those of other states would not be taxed.

We have had a law like this in Tennessee for ever.


25 posted on 07/02/2011 4:42:26 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: GeronL

Thanks, GeronL.

I knew that Amazon had discussed pulling their warehouses out of Texas. I didn’t realize it had happened.


26 posted on 07/02/2011 4:42:40 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: berdie

I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV but I think the difference is the fact one state can not impose a tariff on another state.

Which explains why Amazon can get around this by dropping relations with business within the state and just sell direct from outside the state.

Perhaps someone who knows the law better can explain it better.


27 posted on 07/02/2011 4:42:59 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: berdie; GOPrincess

You are not understanding the issue (and believe me I can see why with the mess California has made). This is NOT about the already existent law requiring sales tax on internet purchases that are in the same state. This is a NEW law signed by Brown that ADDS a tax to these affiliates or behind-the-scenes suppliers and manufacturers who might happen to be located in California. Those sales previously were not taxed, and to avoid adding the tax Amazon cut the relationship with those dealers. You know the folks I mean, everything from a Mom and Pop jewelry maker to a 500 employee widget seller. These folks sell thru Amazon as well as other sources.


28 posted on 07/02/2011 4:45:55 PM PDT by baa39
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To: berdie
But if the sales tax code in Cal requires collection of sales tax on internet purchases...is this out of line?

They way I've heard it, a long ago Supreme Court decision says yes, it is out of line.

29 posted on 07/02/2011 4:46:52 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Soothesayer9

When did you have your lobotomy - or can you remember?


30 posted on 07/02/2011 4:47:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: tflabo

I surely understand that Amazon would be pro-Fed sales tax.

I would actually favor it..if it replaced income tax. Wow, the “poor” would have some skin in the game.

But I don’t see it happening in the immediate future.

I think there is mismangement on all levels, Federal..State, County and City.


31 posted on 07/02/2011 4:50:04 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: berdie
But if the sales tax code in Cal requires collection of sales tax on internet purchases...is this out of line? (I guess I could look it up, but I don’t have the time or inclination.)

Start with the premise that all taxes are "out of line" and continue your research from there.

32 posted on 07/02/2011 4:50:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: RC2

Darn skippy...from one oldster to another!


33 posted on 07/02/2011 4:51:30 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: RC2

“The old folks, as you call us....will demand all the SS money taken out of our wages, plus interest.”

You bloody damn right we will.

For most of my working life I paid the maximum amount every year into SS as demanded by a confiscatory law. I and others never received one cent interest on those monies. If we had, at retirement we would have had a much larger payout than the government thieves which took it will ever pay out with the so called benefits.

There are times I almost fly into a blind rage when I hear some freak say my monthly SS check is an entitlement. Placing it into the same category as a inner city baby factory, or a 3rd or 4th generation welfare parasite creep.

I many be old, but not so damn old as to not rise up and have one last fight left in me.


34 posted on 07/02/2011 4:53:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: Soothesayer9
You be sure and tell the old folks that they should find a job instead of sitting at home sick and broken by decades of work.

Yeah, you just do that.

35 posted on 07/02/2011 4:55:43 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: RC2
will demand all the SS money taken out of our wages, plus interest.

Depending on when you starting collecting I'd wager that you've already gotten that and more.

36 posted on 07/02/2011 4:57:27 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: baa39

That was my question...is it a new law.


37 posted on 07/02/2011 4:59:11 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: Fred

if you mean CA. I’d have to move to it first.


38 posted on 07/02/2011 5:04:19 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Sea Parrot; berdie; RC2; dalereed
There are times I almost fly into a blind rage when I hear some freak say my monthly SS check is an entitlement.

Get used to it, grow a thick skin, there are plenty of people here who castigate us as welfare recipients. I like "Dale Reed's answer on an earlier thread today about S.S., Suck it up, i’m a greedy bastard!!! I believe I'll start using that one myself.

39 posted on 07/02/2011 5:04:33 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: JPG

It wasn’t until the yacht building industry had been completely destroyed when they repealed it.


40 posted on 07/02/2011 5:09:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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