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Would the Founding Fathers be proud of the country today? (Poll to freep)
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Posted on 07/02/2011 7:22:40 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

Sorry the link had so much bs couldn’t make it to the info

I will trust my fellow freepers to report #’s

TT


41 posted on 07/02/2011 10:23:50 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

77% no.


42 posted on 07/02/2011 10:46:21 PM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Things they would be delighted about:

-The Washington Monument
-Slavery no longer divides the States
-Our Navy and our Army is the most powerful in the World – not the British
-The original Five Freedoms have not been erased, when many of them at the time doubted they would last.

Things that would make them sick:

-Our Schools treating God as an enemy, and not teaching American History as it should.
-Unions
-Our National Dept, and who we owe it to
-Big Government
-Salaries of our representatives
-Cost of elections
-Entitlements
-The original Five Freedoms being chiseled away


43 posted on 07/02/2011 11:07:47 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

They would be disgusted in us, for allowing what has happened and for not doing anything about it yet.


44 posted on 07/03/2011 12:42:59 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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45 posted on 07/03/2011 12:47:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: yldstrk

If Free Republic had a “Like and Share” button, I’d have this on my Facebook page.

Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!!!


46 posted on 07/03/2011 1:26:20 AM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: TexasTransplant

YES (656 responses)

23%

NO (2202 responses)

77%

2858 total responses


47 posted on 07/03/2011 1:29:00 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: ully2

But Michelle is finally proud to be an American!


48 posted on 07/03/2011 2:00:28 AM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: yldstrk

“Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women
Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test
recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and
piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get
tats and piercings, then get a job.”

No. No forced sterilization.

That stinks of “Lebensunwertsleben” - the life not worth living.


49 posted on 07/03/2011 2:08:05 AM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They would be asking why we havent taken arms against the regime. Then they would be asking why they went thru all the trouble to begin with if we werent going to protect the freedoms they gave up so much for.


50 posted on 07/03/2011 4:16:35 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They would not think us a country of Men.


51 posted on 07/03/2011 4:58:40 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Billthedrill
“Sirs,” you'd have to say, “In my time there is one country in the world who is a giant of three hundred million souls, possessing half a continent, whose navy spans the world's oceans and whose army is the envy of nations, whose economy and culture shifts the rest.”

This is a fast sketch. The Devil, as they say, is in the details” Your words may have applied in june of 1945, but not today. No way today. That military today is mired in PC and those hundreds of millions are surrounded by degeneracy and held under a gov’t jackboot that is presently shoving “gay marriage” down their throats even as it dissolves the Constitution under the entirely made up imperative of the ecology.

52 posted on 07/03/2011 5:09:17 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; bang_list

Our Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now.


53 posted on 07/03/2011 5:33:17 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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“Our Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now.”

Perhaps, but let’s not forget that the Founders needed 25 years - 1750-1775 - to organize, plan a strategy and finally take on British Crown.

At present, we have no committees of safety, no comittees of correspondence and no organized militia. (26 states do fund an organized state militia, but I don’t see millions of people enlisting. Perhaps most Americans don’t know that these organized militias, above and beyond the state guard, exist.)

In addition, we elected more than 700 patriots to state legislatures, giving us complete control of 26 states. That, I believe, is where we will find our future leaders to make plans and take on the criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington.

We have many tools to take on the tyrants but people are unaware of them.

For example, our local school board, filled with leftists, illegally passed a school tax increase. They did it illegally by not giving proper notification of the meeting. Next week, this school board will be brought up on charges of violating the state’s open meetings law. That means the tax increase will be nullified, the school board members will be personally fined and they can be thrown in jail.

So, yeah, you’re right. The Founders would have been shooting by now, but first they put in place the necessary thought, machinery and manpower.

We have a start, but we’re not there yet.


54 posted on 07/03/2011 6:46:20 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Our founders would ask why we stopped funding government via import tariffs.


55 posted on 07/03/2011 6:48:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: sergeantdave
The following is a comment on another thread that I just posted a few minutes ago. It applies here:

Tyranny is coming.

A time is soon coming when a license to practice law will be meaningless. Why? Because the rule of law is been shredded. Law means what ever the chief executive of our nation wants it to mean.

Presidents can thumb their nose at Congress when declaring war. They can perjure themselves. They can rape and paw at women at abandon. Mysterious murders can surround them. They can arrange to have sensitive documents stolen or make them go missing. The IRS files on political enemies can accumulate in the White House basement. The politically outspoken can be clubbed with IRS audits. They can lie about their past and post crudely made FORGERIES.

If I were a betting person, I would say that there likely will be elections in 2012. BUT....Count on it! A time is soon coming when there will be no elections or they will be a meaningless and any held in the old Soviet Union.

Why? Reason: Obama is merely the stink in the room! The gangrene is the moral rot that has infected every cultural institution in the nation, especial among those in the legal profession.

Obama is very likely a usurper. He posted two crude FORGERIES!!! And,...Not one honorable man or woman with influence in a country of 300 million people has done anything meaningful about it!

Not even one governor or state attorney general, no prosecutors, not one legislator, no judges or any member of the Supreme Court, and the entire electoral college did anything about it! Yet...the majority of these guys and gals are lawyers! Not one LEO or law enforcement agency ( federal or state) made any move to act. Our Marxist and conservative media were silent. Our very highest military, graduates of academies with the very strictest “honor codes” ( what a joke!) are complicit.

Tyranny is soon coming. Bet on it.

56 posted on 07/03/2011 6:55:55 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Red in Blue PA

Where is the link to the article?


57 posted on 07/03/2011 6:58:44 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Red in Blue PA

Who cares what a bunch of racist thought?


58 posted on 07/03/2011 7:00:56 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: NavyCanDo
Our Schools treating God as an enemy, and not teaching American History as it should.
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Our Founding Fathers would be APPALLED that the progressives of the mid-1800s created a school system that was ( and is): Socialist-funded, compulsory, and managed by the collectivist voting mob.

They would be very distressed that the earliest students were offered a generic and lukewarm Protestantism. They would be apoplectic that today's children are being marinated in a toxic godless stew.

What have generations of American learned? They learned to be comfortable with socialism, collectivism, and compulsory collectivist management of their lives. They learned to be lukewarm and generic about religion. Today's kids **WiLL** learn to think and reason godlessly. They **MUST** merely to cooperate with the classroom.

59 posted on 07/03/2011 7:10:03 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Billthedrill
+1

America is the most benevolent nation to ever dominate the globe. And we do it our way.

We don't want to rule, that would take too much time and effort and is inefficient and contrary to our principles.

We want to sell our stuff and buy your stuff.

We are the #1 exporter of food and arms.

You are at peace? GREAT! Buy our food, make cool stuff for us to buy.

You are at war? GREAT! Buy our arms, we make the best in the world. Hope you settle it swiftly and get back to making goods for us to buy.

We have the most innovative and productive workforce in the world.

We live a life of prosperity our founders could hardly imagine the common people enjoying, where the #1 nutrition related problem of our “poor” is obesity.

We live a life of great freedom and latitude in morality - a double edged sword to be sure.

We live a life where everything is regulated, where the minutiae of life is legislated and litigated.

But I think they would be proud.

Count me among the minority. I have read numerous books by and about the founders - and I am optimistic and patriotic about our nations ethics, history, and future.

60 posted on 07/03/2011 7:18:19 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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