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Which Was Worse: Watergate or Operation 'Fast and Furious'?
Big Government ^ | 7/7/2011 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 07/07/2011 11:43:20 AM PDT by paul in cape

After The Washington Post broke the news of the Watergate break-ins in 1972, the Nixon administration circled the wagons. And in 1997 – a full 25 years after the fact – Katherine Graham, who was with The Post in 1972, vividly recalled how “Nixon began making threats of economic retaliation against the paper.”

According to Graham, Nixon bullied the paper, sought to silence it, and launched a “campaign to undermine public confidence in [it].”

Judging from what Graham said, it appears that Nixon wanted to be sure people understood that if they continued to pry into Watergate or talk about Watergate or break news about Watergate as it unfolded, there would be harsh ramifications. (Keep in mind – Nixon had nothing to do with planning Watergate. Only with covering it up once he learned of it after the fact.)

Honestly folks, Watergate provided the Left with such a singularly sweet opportunity to bring down a Republican president that they’ve never gotten over it.

As recently as 2004, MSNBC sent reporters to the streets to be sure up and coming generations had not forgotten what Nixon had done. (I don’t want to belabor the point, but Nixon had nothing to do with planning Watergate. Only with covering it up once he learned of it after the fact.)


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No one died in Watergate!!

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1 posted on 07/07/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by paul in cape
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To: paul in cape

F&F hasn’t even unraveled yet...more to come


2 posted on 07/07/2011 11:44:46 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: paul in cape

Watergate was political theater.
F&F is a criminal operation...............


3 posted on 07/07/2011 11:45:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: paul in cape
Jump now to 2011 – of the approximately 2500 guns sold only a few hundred have been recovered and at least one federal agent, Brian Terry, lost his life due to this ludicrous operation. Talk about a cover-up: this operation was somehow planned and conducted without the full knowledge of the Acting ATF Director, the Justice Department, or President Obama having any knowledge of it.

(By “full knowledge” I mean that Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson says knew about it, but was kept “in the dark” regarding the extent of the operation, and the involvement of other agencies like the FBI and DEA.)

rut row

4 posted on 07/07/2011 11:45:35 AM PDT by paul in cape
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To: paul in cape

Why is State-run, Lame-Stream Media ignoring this story while they were totally enamored in the “Iran-Contra” Story. Oh, that’s right, this is a RAT administration doing the damage.
Only interest by them is when an “R” is in control of the White House and doing unsavory things.


5 posted on 07/07/2011 11:45:56 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: paul in cape

The POTUS is directly RESPONSIBLE for US Deaths.

Obama’s WATERGATE is much, much worse.

Now we are going through the cover up phase where the pawns lie to protect the King.

Hang/imprison all of them from Holder to Obama.


6 posted on 07/07/2011 11:46:01 AM PDT by politicianslie (Democrats are COMMUNIST, Repubs are SOCIALIST, and Barry's a Muslim manipulating USEFUL RINO IDIOTS)
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To: Doogle

It’s gonna be a long hot summer.
Just like 1974...................


7 posted on 07/07/2011 11:46:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: paul in cape
Watergate + Republican president = BAD

Anything + Democrat President = Move along... nothing to see.

8 posted on 07/07/2011 11:47:23 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: paul in cape

.50 caliber, semi-automatic, drug cartel supplying, people killing, informant target of operation, federal stimulus funded version of Watergate.............Sure!


9 posted on 07/07/2011 11:47:46 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: paul in cape

fubo lied.....people died...


10 posted on 07/07/2011 11:49:34 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: paul in cape

Watergate was bad, but....... F&F is an act of war.


11 posted on 07/07/2011 11:50:01 AM PDT by Gator113 (weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: paul in cape
Watergate was a theatrically amateurish burglary of a hotel suite.

No federal laws were broken.

Nixon never even knew about it until after-the-fact.

Fast & Furious was a criminal conspiracy to break federal laws orchestrated from the Oval Office for the purpose of manufacturing an excuse to subject the United States to an international gun control treaty.

Obama said he was working on gun control "under the radar." F&F was evidently what he meant.

12 posted on 07/07/2011 11:51:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: paul in cape
Since the scheme was funded by the 2009 stimulus act, some legislator or committee had to insert the funding into the legislation.

There is your architect of this crap.

13 posted on 07/07/2011 11:51:02 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: paul in cape

How many foreign nationals were killed as a result of Watergate?


14 posted on 07/07/2011 11:52:16 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Gator113
Watergate was bad...

Name one federal law that was broken.

15 posted on 07/07/2011 11:52:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: paul in cape

“And in 1997 – a full 25 years after the fact – Katherine Graham, who was with The Post in 1972, vividly recalled how “Nixon began making threats of economic retaliation against the paper.”

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The talentless Commie may “vividly recall” Richard Nixon’s alleged threats but let’s see her proof.

I “vividly recall” that Communists in the media (like Graham), and elsewhere, have been actively and arrogantly destroying the greatness of America for my entire life.


16 posted on 07/07/2011 11:54:13 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: blackdog
There is your architect of this crap.

Would not surprise me to see NY's putzhead and the Lout's prints all over that piece of paper.

17 posted on 07/07/2011 11:54:28 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Kinda likened to the FAA sending 2,500 Boeing Airliners to the Taliban so they can track their flight plans as they fly them into public stadium events in America............To build a case against them for blowing a hole in the side of the USS Cole.


18 posted on 07/07/2011 11:54:34 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: paul in cape

“Remember: No one died during Watergate, yet Nixon had to resign. Federal Agent Brian Terry is gone due to “Fast and Furious” – it’s time for someone to lose their job, if not go to jail or face impeachment charges in the House of Representatives.”


19 posted on 07/07/2011 11:55:29 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: going hot
My money is on Schumer. He loves guns himself, but hates the notion that the peasants can own them. Whoever hatched this plan had to be a gun enthusiast. That would be Schumer and possibly Weiner.

Remember, Schumer groomed and mentored Weiner as his aide for a long time.

That dance partner is going to cost Schumer at some point.

20 posted on 07/07/2011 11:58:05 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: dead

21 posted on 07/07/2011 11:59:30 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: paul in cape

“No one died in Watergate!!”

Where can I get the bumper sticker?


22 posted on 07/07/2011 12:00:19 PM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: blackdog

I’m thinking Rahm was involved. Then he split the scene.


23 posted on 07/07/2011 12:01:12 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: blackdog
A more repulsive legislator is difficult to imagine.

Lays awake at night plotting more devious ways to grab firearms.

I recall him as a representative during the waco hearings circus. What a piece of work.

24 posted on 07/07/2011 12:01:51 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: dead

Go you one further, how many people died because of Watergate?

IMO, Fast and Furious is now at the point of needing a special prosecutor, and not some lap dog prosecutor either, someone of substance. We also need a presiding judge like Sirica.

From my experience, I nominate Joe Russinello, US Attorney, San Francisco as the prosecutor...he is honest, direct, and knows his stuff. For judge, how about we get someone out of retirment or on senior status like Bork who is a constitutional scholar.


25 posted on 07/07/2011 12:01:51 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: politicianslie

“The POTUS is directly RESPONSIBLE for US Deaths.”

And it would be nice to see him charged as an accessory(at least) to murder. But I guess you can’t be charged when you’re king.


26 posted on 07/07/2011 12:02:14 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Mr. Wright
If the perpetrator is a Republican, the media is an arm of the Prosecution.

If the perp is a Democrat, the media is an arm of the Defense.

27 posted on 07/07/2011 12:02:15 PM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: paul in cape
What a question? F&F would have destroyed gun ownership with communists black Muslim King Obama at the helm. Nixon was nothing that politicians do all the time. It is rampant in private industry and with most of the population. All cover up to an extent to protect themselves or their interest. Morals are down the tubes in America.

Fast and Furious will destroy any relations with Mexico and will be the Nazi type of attempt to disarm Americans and install a dictatorship.

28 posted on 07/07/2011 12:03:53 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Mouton

Napolitano (sp) from Fox News might serve well as the judge.


29 posted on 07/07/2011 12:03:58 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Federal Law ~ meaning a law passed by Congress ~ that'd be something within federal jurisdiction ~ maybe DC, the special district mentioned in the Constitution.

Yup, they broke into private property.

I think you've forgotten the identity of the target ~ to wit, the DNC, the location ~ DC, the actors ~ White House employees.

Although they tried, the special counsel folks didn't begin to plumb the depths of the federal laws that coulda/woulda/shoulda applied.

There were OTHER aspects to the cluster of screwups covered by the term "Watergate". My old buddy Tom Huston made up plans to bust into every Embassy in DC ~ John Dean ran around with cash payments for the purpose of silencing the original Cuban defendants (at Arlington Towers, Madison Building, 7 AM, etc. 7th and 8th floor where they were billeted) ~ and more, much more and DrugFair began selling breaded pork tenderloin sandwiches.

30 posted on 07/07/2011 12:04:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: paul in cape

Well they have working so Fast and Furious that people have died, multiple agencies have committed felonies and probably hundreds of gubmint workers as well.

WaterGate only caught a President, one cook cat and a couple of inept burglars. Did anyone die... /s


31 posted on 07/07/2011 12:05:03 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Nixon never even knew about it until after-the-fact. “

Most people don't realize that fact about Watergate. Nixon had nothing to do with putting it together or making it happen.

He just reacted foolishly after some dolts did something foolish. Watergate was such a tragedy. It could have easily gone away if Nixon would have made some simple decisions differently.

32 posted on 07/07/2011 12:05:14 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Real hope and change comes in January 2013)
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To: going hot

I thought of him but he was not in the federal courts before. I would also consider Judge Roy Bean if he were still alive.


33 posted on 07/07/2011 12:05:59 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It could have easily gone away if Nixon would have made some simple decisions differently.

All he had to do was cut the dolts loose.

No good deed goes unpunished.

34 posted on 07/07/2011 12:07:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: going hot

Schumer secretes bile when he spots a microphone and camera.


35 posted on 07/07/2011 12:07:10 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: paul in cape

Fast and Furious has a body count that will likely grow. Charging those involved with negligent homicide is being too kind.


36 posted on 07/07/2011 12:07:56 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Mouton
Amen..

"...Cheatin' at cards, the sentence is --->Boom!<---death...Oh, and ten dollar fine for laying around on the saloon floor..."

37 posted on 07/07/2011 12:08:34 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: politicianslie
The POTUS is directly RESPONSIBLE for US Deaths.

Mexico has recorded over 150 deaths traceable to this operation.

We are talking about a truly gruesome death toll, resulting from the President's attempt to undermine the 2nd Amendment.

38 posted on 07/07/2011 12:09:06 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: freeangel
Why can't RICO statutes be brought as indictments against government officials who acted as organized crime in this matter?

The glove sure fits!

39 posted on 07/07/2011 12:10:14 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

Along with that shiite eating trademark grin.


40 posted on 07/07/2011 12:10:18 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Red Badger

“It’s gonna be a long hot summer. Just like 1974...................”

I was at Scout camp that summer. It was hot as blazes.


41 posted on 07/07/2011 12:10:49 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“It could have easily gone away if Nixon would have made some simple decisions differently.”

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Or, if the Commie media did not have a score to settle with Richard Nixon’s stalwart Commie hunting activities as a member of HUAC.

Or, if the DemocratMeida had looked the other way even a tiny fraction as much as they habitually did during the abjectly seedy JFK and LBJ administrations.


42 posted on 07/07/2011 12:13:26 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: paul in cape

Boy zero is running gun control Under The Radar so it must be ok SARC/OFF


43 posted on 07/07/2011 12:14:27 PM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: going hot

How about Clarence Thomas?


44 posted on 07/07/2011 12:22:13 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (Truth is a virus!)
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To: Red Badger

YOu have to know there are more than a few folks in D.C. who are a bit nervous about this one reaching out and touching them.


45 posted on 07/07/2011 12:24:04 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Happy Birthday America)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That was a stupid question to ask me. Go find someone else to play with.

Here, I’ll say it this way, just for you......... Watergate was good.


46 posted on 07/07/2011 12:24:44 PM PDT by Gator113 (weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
No federal laws were broken.

The offices in question were in the District of Columbia, where everything from murder to littering is a matter of federal law.

47 posted on 07/07/2011 12:24:48 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: fantail 1952
We need him where he currently sits.

However, it would be nice to have a judgement against this bunch reach his desk on appeal!

48 posted on 07/07/2011 12:25:26 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot
Perhaps it would help if we start referring to it as “GunGate”.
49 posted on 07/07/2011 12:43:36 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: going hot
Napolitano (sp) from Fox News might serve well as the judge.

Nope. Guy is a gun banner believe it or not. Got into a correspondance with him about hi-cap mags, NFA, etc. Said no one should own a semi-auto weapon. (Albiet he had it completely confused with full-auto weapons).

50 posted on 07/07/2011 12:49:03 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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