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Totals Stimulus Package Cost To Broadband Rural Areas: $349,000/home. $7,000,000/home In Montana!
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Posted on 07/10/2011 6:26:20 PM PDT by MindBender26

On FNC, Gov Huckabee just revealed the cost to you and me to bring Broadband internet service to rural areas through Obama's Stimulus package. It was $349,000 per home, and you and I paid it!

In Montana, it was worse. The program made Broadband available to a total of 7 homes that did not have it available before, at a cost to you and me of $49,000,000. That's $7,000,000 per home.

The total cost was $7.2 BILLION... and we... and our kids... and their kids, paid the bill!

And does anyone doubt that Obama is trying to destroy America?


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And does anyone REALLY doubt that Obama is trying to destroy America?
1 posted on 07/10/2011 6:26:25 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

Who got this outrageous amount of money in Montana? There should be an investigation, because certainly fraud had to be involved.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 6:28:49 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: MindBender26

That definitely has to fall under the good and plenty clause of the Constitution.


3 posted on 07/10/2011 6:28:58 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: MindBender26

No!!!


4 posted on 07/10/2011 6:29:14 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: MindBender26

Geez, I could use some help paying my monthly highspeed bill.


5 posted on 07/10/2011 6:31:33 PM PDT by umgud
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To: MindBender26

I am sure the left will say its money well spent.

idiots.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 6:31:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MindBender26

What a nightmare this guy is and has been. It will be interesting to see how this debt crisis goes. We may not be able to take another year of this guy.


7 posted on 07/10/2011 6:32:10 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: jesseam

YES!!!

8 posted on 07/10/2011 6:32:32 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: MindBender26

What can you say about 0bama? Waste creates waste.


9 posted on 07/10/2011 6:32:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: MindBender26

I’m not sure what this is saying. So should we keep the liberal NYC folk on the leading edge and on the dole, and put the rural people that work and pay the same taxes as everyone else in an ill informed special cage without roads or communications infrastructure just because it costs more?

As a rural American I believe that I have the same rights as every other American and deserve the same opportunities.


10 posted on 07/10/2011 6:33:09 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: umgud

No kidding, I didn’t know I could get it free.


11 posted on 07/10/2011 6:34:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MindBender26
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Hey, Denny, still happy about campaigning and voting for Obozo?


12 posted on 07/10/2011 6:35:43 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: MindBender26

*** It was $349,000 per home, and you and I paid it! ****

So where is mine? I’m rural! Still on dialup! I want my $349,000 broadband! OK, I’ll settle for the cash and stay on dialup! ;-D


13 posted on 07/10/2011 6:35:57 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS!)
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To: apoliticalone

But if there aren’t enough of you “rural americans” in a given area to make offering services to you profitable, why should the rest of us subsidize you getting those services. It would seem that part of the trade off for leaving the noise and dangers of the city would be fewer services...


14 posted on 07/10/2011 6:38:11 PM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: apoliticalone

You believe high speed internet is a RIGHT?

Really???


15 posted on 07/10/2011 6:39:33 PM PDT by I am bigjohn
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To: MindBender26

But — but — Obozo has it all worked out. Each Montana subscriber will be billed $29,267.00 per month for broadband calculated on a 20 year service life before long range WiFi replaces hard-wire cable systems.

But, not to worry. Obozo has instructed those 7 homeowners to send the bill to you.


16 posted on 07/10/2011 6:40:27 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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17 posted on 07/10/2011 6:40:40 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: apoliticalone

So if it cost a trillion to get you your God-given internet right, it’d be ok? It’s called ROI. Your argument sure does defeat your tagline.


18 posted on 07/10/2011 6:45:13 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: apoliticalone

I hope that you are being sarcastic. If not, I want a view of 18 miles of prairie and foothills from my back door. (Without moving of course to your beautiful state.) Does this mean that taxpayers will also have to put in a Starbucks three blocks from your house?


19 posted on 07/10/2011 6:45:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: kittymyrib
Who got this outrageous amount of money in Montana? There should be an investigation, because certainly fraud had to be involved.

I would not be surprised if this was just another day in the office for a bureaucrat. In the government, you have to spend all the money by a certain date. This probably got the bureaucrat a lot of money spent with little work on his/her part. A no brainer.
20 posted on 07/10/2011 6:46:22 PM PDT by microgood
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To: MindBender26
If the Obama regime was serious about providing access to all of rural America they could have used a satelite service such as Wild Blue. It is the service we use in Northern Nevada home.
21 posted on 07/10/2011 6:52:07 PM PDT by Irish Queen ("Don't fence me in")
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To: MindBender26

Enough talk from progressives and MSM about shared sacrifice and raising taxes.


22 posted on 07/10/2011 6:59:31 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: kittymyrib

The Recovery Act authorized the following five uses of these broadband funds:

$2.5 billion for RUS to extend loans, loan/grant combinations, and grants to broadband infrastructure projects, where at least 75 percent of an RUS-funded area is in a rural area that lacks sufficient access to high speed broadband service to facilitate rural economic development;
 
$4.7 billion to NTIA to provide grants for infrastructure and programmatic broadband initiatives throughout the United States, including unserved and underserved areas;
 
$200 million to NTIA for competitive grants for expanding public computer center capacity;
 
$250 million to NTIA for competitive grants for innovative programs to encourage sustainable adoption of broadband services;
 
$350 million to NTIA to fund the State Broadband Data and Development Grant Program authorized by the Broadband Data Improvement Act, and to support the development and maintenance of a nationwide broadband map for use by policymakers and consumers.

MORE...

http://recovery.mt.gov/commerce/broadband/default.mcpx


23 posted on 07/10/2011 7:02:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MindBender26

and I’m starting to think that the government might as well have just cut a big ol check to every family in america. we could have spent it better. gotten out of debt, built things, bought things and jumpstarted to economy.


24 posted on 07/10/2011 7:05:07 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: MindBender26

And you thought the Mob knew how to skim money in Las Vegas back in the day. This is SOOOO much better.


25 posted on 07/10/2011 7:06:22 PM PDT by radioone (How Can an Obscure Guy Who Did Diddly Squat in the Senate Become President?)
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To: Irish Queen

That’s fine as long as Wildblue didn’t oversell the *(@#& beam. And didn’t extend the latency on the *(#&$ gateway. And knock 25% off your *(@#&$ limit without warning and no price deduction.

I had WB for two years. They were great for the first couple of months; then they got greedy. My service tanked and since WB is marketed as a fixed wireless internet option for residences, there is no way on God’s green earth you’re going to stay under a measly 7.5GB cap a month when you have teenagers.

Satellite is not, I repeat, NOT broadband. The latency is too long, long enough to cause SSL sites to time out and make banking impossible. I could’ve put up with $70 internet bills. My speed was 1mb (on a good day) but I was OK with it. The straw that broke this camel’s back was the nuisance of having to play FAP cop.

I’m just 30 miles west of Ann Arbor and use a grandfathered Alltel (TRUE unlimited) aircard for our internet. They were fantastic...and then VZW took over. Frontier is scheduled to deploy DSL any day now — Michigan company Turnkey ran the final checks on the DSLAM last week and all is a go — but the deployment was scheduled BEFORE the Obamimation took office.

I understand we’ll never see cable, let alone FIOS. There are areas where wimax and LTE could be deployed reasonably. But some providers (:koffAT&TComcastCoxkoff:) are convinced we ruralites don’t want internet. No; we just assume it’s not available which is mostly true.


26 posted on 07/10/2011 7:13:04 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: MindBender26

Head of Internet company that won $64M stimulus grant is big political donor

James Dolan Jr., the manager of Montana Opticom, also owns property at Big Sky, including a lot at the private Spanish Peaks housing and golf course community - which, so far, is home to the only customers served by Opticom, a small broadband firm based in Gallatin Gateway.

Dolan’s father is a former investment fund manager and founder of Ascent Data, the Pittsburgh-based parent of Montana Opticom, as well as a principal in the Spanish Peaks development. Dolan Sr. owns a home at the Yellowstone Club that is appraised at $11.5 million, according to state records.
The Dolans also are big political donors, having handed out nearly $230,000 to congressional candidates and political action committees the past 10 years, with nearly half the money dispersed the last two years. Almost all of their money has gone to Republican candidates and party groups or conservative political action committees - although Dolan Sr. did give $500 to the 2008 re-election campaign of Gov. Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat.
Federal campaign records do not list any donations from the Dolans to members of Montana’s congressional delegation.
However, U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg, R-Mont., did write a letter to federal officials in August 2009 asking that they fund Opticom’s initial application for the broadband funds.
Rehberg, who voted against the stimulus funding bill and has criticized it as wasteful spending, also wrote letters on behalf of several other telecommunications firms competing for the money, because he “supports Montana entities competing for federal funding,” said his spokesman, Jed Link.
U.S. Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., also wrote a letter to federal officials supporting Opticom’s initial application, because he “wanted to support any effort to bring these broadband dollars to Montana,” said his spokeswoman, Kate Downen. He didn’t write a letter regarding the second round of applications, for which the company received the award.

http://tinyurl.com/6z9yecl

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Aug 4, 2010 – “Affordable and accessible broadband service is critical to economic growth in Montana,” said. Governor Brian Schweitzer.
“These funds will help a Montana business provide educational and economic opportunities in rural parts of our state.”

Ascent Data Subsidiary Awarded Gallatin Gateway Broadband Project In Montana

Broadband Project Will Improve Life Safety, Educational, Public Service, Business and Residential Telecommunications Services in Gallatin County, Montana

http://tinyurl.com/6hctfek

Ascent Data announced today that the Gallatin Gateway Broadband Project, a fiber-to-the-premise (FTTP) infrastructure development project of Ascent Data subsidiary, Montana Opticom, has qualified for $64,127,332 of funding through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. When completed, the Gallatin Gateway Broadband Project will provide affordable and reliable high-speed data, voice, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) to 11,864 households and businesses, and 58 critical community facilities in communities and rural areas within Gallatin County, Montana.


27 posted on 07/10/2011 7:16:19 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MindBender26

There is NO way that it would cost 7,000,000 per house to get broadband to a set of houses.
Unless the average distances to the homes is over 1500 miles for each one!!!!!!!!

The contractors just pocketed that money.
They bribed the elected officials and they got their payoff.


28 posted on 07/10/2011 7:18:07 PM PDT by Rage cat
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To: MindBender26

Life will be totally unfair until we as a nation have fulfilled every American’ God-given right to broadband internet. That and high speed rail.


29 posted on 07/10/2011 7:21:46 PM PDT by pinkyandthebrain
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To: MindBender26

Ahhh. I eat a lot of pork and chicken. Bout all I can afford. Might as well spend some money on this as to give it to the deadbeats so they as can eat ribeyes.


30 posted on 07/10/2011 7:22:46 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me, Make Me write Bad Checks)
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To: apoliticalone

I live in a small town in the mountains. What about my right to have an opera house and a football stadium with a major league team nearby? Don’t I deserve the same as the citified Americans?


31 posted on 07/10/2011 7:26:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: bigheadfred
Ahhh. I eat a lot of pork and chicken. Bout all I can afford. Might as well spend some money on this as to give it to the deadbeats so they as can eat ribeyes.

You already do, if you own or use a landline or cell phone. Remember that Universal Service Fee? Plans are in the works to give it to ISPs to extend broadband, and a big chunk will go to subsidize the inner cities...you know, the ones who can't afford it every month. Oh computers for them, too.

32 posted on 07/10/2011 7:28:46 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
OK, I’ll settle for the cash and stay on dialup! ;-D

Hey! if we can go that route I want the Montana $7 mil deal.

33 posted on 07/10/2011 7:29:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Dick Bachert

95% of em will do it again.


34 posted on 07/10/2011 7:33:05 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Dick Bachert

Ofcourse Denny’s still happy. He didn’t change his race, did he?

That is the main reason he voted for him. Like the rest of us, he did not know anything about Obama because his background is in hiding.


35 posted on 07/10/2011 7:33:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: apoliticalone
As a rural American I believe that I have the same rights as every other American and deserve the same opportunities.

He's right. People in NYC have a Statue of Liberty close by. Every rural resident in American also deserves to have one within, say, a one hour drive. And a symphony. too. Those are culturally important. And a zoo. People in Washington have the option to work at the Pentagon. Rural Americans deserve this right, too. Every small town in American must have a Pentagon.

36 posted on 07/10/2011 7:35:51 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: MindBender26

I wonder which one of The Internets they got.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 7:36:03 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Kieri

Nah. I gave up on the phone thing. If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t even own a computer. But it stays as long as I have you. Without my computer all I would have is my bitterness, my religion, my guns...


38 posted on 07/10/2011 7:42:18 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me, Make Me write Bad Checks)
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To: apoliticalone

“As a rural American I believe that I have the same rights as every other American and deserve the same opportunities.”

Either you forgot the sarcasm notation, or you are seriously on the wrong web site!

Guy who lives in the city has the opportunity to shop at a convenience store down the block: I want one a block from MY home.

Guy in the city has the opportunity to ride light rail to work: I want the light rail to come to MY block.

Guy in the city has the opportunity to go an art opening at a gallery near him every few weeks: I want a half dozen galleries built near MY home.

Ad nauseum - literally, buddy.


39 posted on 07/10/2011 7:46:00 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

He didn’t forget the sarcasm tag, he just thought he would provoke some outrage. What I have not seen anyone point out in this thread yet is that any rural dweller can get HughesNet high-speed internet service at at reasonable price already. Taxpayers have been scammed by the stimulus again.


40 posted on 07/10/2011 7:53:45 PM PDT by ngat
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To: kittymyrib

Check out reply #27


41 posted on 07/10/2011 7:57:01 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: MindBender26
Something ain't right about this. I live pretty rural along upper Yukon, no road half the year. I still have dial up and it costs around 1500 to get a dish that is marginal at best.

More political lies; this time from the right.

42 posted on 07/10/2011 8:18:04 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Ditto. I’ve tried to get line of sight at the farm for the last two years... nada.

Rumor was that this program was to bolster the system in the area with another tower.

Another government FU.


43 posted on 07/10/2011 9:33:10 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: MindBender26

wow. And I thought verizon’s $80/month air card charge was alot of money!


44 posted on 07/10/2011 9:42:04 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: MindBender26

We lived about 30 miles east of Fresno, California, in the Sierra Nevada foothills. There is no cell phone service there and no high-speed internet. We figured out the answer to the problem ourselves — we got a satellite dish at a cost of about $99 per month. Pricey, but a lot less than $7m!! Sheesh! and this arrangement let us upgrade whenever it made sense.


45 posted on 07/10/2011 11:38:01 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: Kieri

I had a big huge fight with WB when we were on satellite and got cut off completely for two weeks(!) I asked WHY in the WORLD we couldn’t get as much bandwidth as we wanted and were willing to pay for. After a lot of hemming and hawing the rep told me the Fed Gov limits how much they can sell to any individual user and that it MANDATES cutoff after violating the satellite Internet Terms of Service. I did NOT prompt her to blame the gov’t.


46 posted on 07/10/2011 11:47:51 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: apoliticalone
I’m not sure what this is saying. So should we keep the liberal NYC folk on the leading edge and on the dole, and put the rural people that work and pay the same taxes as everyone else in an ill informed special cage without roads or communications infrastructure just because it costs more?
As a rural American I believe that I have the same rights as every other American and deserve the same opportunities.

As a suburban American I have a right to cheap productive rural land with a house built on it to use for vacations and to bug out in case of collapse. The Federales should buy one for me for $100,000 and your taxes should pay for it

BTW if your fellow rural dwellers get their cooperative act together you can probably bring in a high speed wireless internet system to serve 10-20 families. Might even be Gov't grants for that.

47 posted on 07/10/2011 11:52:17 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: TigersEye

Of course you do!

We also deserve power restoration when high-density areas get theirs. Our roads should magically be snow plowed. Our gravel road pot holes should be there one day, then gone the next. We deserve mailboxes no more than 20 feet from our front doors. We also deserve to simply plop our trash outside and expect it to be gathered up and whisked away by the trash fairys once a week.

For “FREE.” We pay our taxes and have rights, too.


48 posted on 07/11/2011 12:27:43 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Nickname

I knew it. We have rights, man! ;^)


49 posted on 07/11/2011 12:31:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Eska

How do you figure the right is lying here?


50 posted on 07/11/2011 12:33:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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