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Fred Thompson to appear in Richmond on behalf of National Popular Vote initiative
Washington Post ^ | 07/11/2011 | Anita Kumar

Posted on 07/11/2011 11:40:58 AM PDT by Baladas

Fred Thompson, the former U.S. senator, Republican presidential candidate and actor (Law and Order, etc.), will be in Richmond next week to support an effort to ensure the presidency goes to the winner of the most overall popular votes in all 50 states.

Thompson, along with former Illinois governor Jim Edgar (R) and former Iowa governor Chet Culver (D) are part of a bipartisan coalition that has endorsed the National Popular Vote that would go into effect if states representing 270 electoral votes pass legislation.

The National Popular Vote bill has been signed into law in seven states — Maryland, Hawaii, Washington, Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Vermont and the District of Columbia -- representing 29 percent of the necessary votes for the compact to go into effect.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: badidea; democratvoterbill; electoralcollege; fredthimas; fredthompson; moredemocratsbill; popularvote
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Just forget the electoral college then and campaign in all the top ten major metropolitan areas only - surprised even Fred Thompson would endorse an idea as stupid as this one.
1 posted on 07/11/2011 11:41:02 AM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas

What little respect I had for Fred is completely gone now.

And to think some people here actually wanted this asshat to be president.


2 posted on 07/11/2011 11:42:12 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Who is Keyser Soze?)
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To: Baladas

Wow, my respect for him just dropped by a big margin. The Electoral College ensures representation of the entire country, not just the election being controlled by a couple of high population centers.


3 posted on 07/11/2011 11:43:17 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Baladas

I Supported Fred in his 2008 run and was disappointed. Unfortunately, this really does it!


4 posted on 07/11/2011 11:44:18 AM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Baladas

The popular vote difference (which did NOT include all of the absentee ballots in every state and did not even include the contested 3,000 military ballots in Florida) in the 2000 election was 0.51%.

We would STILL be recounting the 2000 vote going county by county nationwide.

BAD method and Rats are guaranteed to stuff ballots in their dominant districts.


5 posted on 07/11/2011 11:44:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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To: Baladas

Right Fred, make it so only corrupt big city Democrats like Obama get elected President forever more.


6 posted on 07/11/2011 11:45:36 AM PDT by Argus
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To: mnehring

Push through a capital offense charge for those caught stuffing ballots and I might be able to listen to the argument FOR this change.

As it stands, the media doesn’t care when some districts have over 100% of registered voters turning in ballots.


7 posted on 07/11/2011 11:46:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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To: Baladas
Kiss our Constitutional Republic goodbye then.

We'll briefly have democracy, which will be followed by mob rule and dictatorship.

8 posted on 07/11/2011 11:46:34 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Baladas

Fred, what the hell are you thinking!!!!


9 posted on 07/11/2011 11:46:51 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
"What little respect I had for Fred is completely gone now."

I second that. I am now assamed that I ever supported Fred.
10 posted on 07/11/2011 11:46:51 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Baladas

Has Thompson gone senile on us? If we want radical ideas, how about going back to the proposal by our founding fathers that only property owners of good character can vote? I’ll take it one step farther, how about applying the rule that a person can vote once for every acre he owns. Therefore a person owning 100 acres can vote 100 times, and a renter cannot vote at all. Put that one forward and see how the city dwellers would feel.


11 posted on 07/11/2011 11:47:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Bizhvywt

Me too. This is definitely “WTF?” material.


12 posted on 07/11/2011 11:48:13 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Emperor Palpatine; pissant; Impy
>> And to think some people here actually wanted this asshat to be president. <<

We'd get flamed if we pointed out Fred's "Reaganesque true conservative record" in the U.S. Senate was 95% identical to McCain. And even more amazing, Fred's lifetime ACU rating was actually worse than his fellow Tennessee Senator at the time, Bill Frist, and the much hated Lindsey Graham. The only reason Fred couldn't get tied to "treasonous" RINO legislation like the 2007 amnesty bill and the Gang of 14 deal is he was no longer a Senator when those items came up. Had he still been in the Senate, I'm fairly certainly he would have voted with his "good friend John McCain" on those issues.

13 posted on 07/11/2011 11:48:24 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Baladas

Not a good idea at all....

Fred, Fred, Fred....what be ye thinkin, lad?


14 posted on 07/11/2011 11:48:42 AM PDT by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: Baladas
I'm a FredHead but he's all wrong on this one. Can’t believe he would support this.
15 posted on 07/11/2011 11:49:07 AM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: Baladas

Why not campaign for more “Reverse Mortgages” Fred?


16 posted on 07/11/2011 11:49:12 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Baladas

I thought Fred Thompson was smarter than this.


17 posted on 07/11/2011 11:50:18 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Baladas

One of the central concepts upon which Thompson based his Presidential campaign was respect for “federalism”. Now he wants to destroy it. The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife...


18 posted on 07/11/2011 11:50:35 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Emperor Palpatine

“And to think some people here actually wanted this asshat to be president.”

I stand in shame. I don’t know WHAT he is thinking.


19 posted on 07/11/2011 11:51:41 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
What little respect I had for Fred is completely gone now.

Same here. This pig has no understanding of our Republic. He has shown himself to be a true enemy of Liberty.

NPV will destroy another aspect of what has made our Republic prosper. Our Founders as a whole, were brilliant beyond words. Fred just pi**ed on their graves and our beloved Constitution. Fred deserves only our contempt.

20 posted on 07/11/2011 11:52:46 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: Baladas

>>Just forget the electoral college then and campaign in all the top ten major metropolitan areas only - surprised even Fred Thompson would endorse an idea as stupid as this one.<<

This is very disappointing. You are 100% correct. As much as it would be great to shove a thumb into the eyes of NH and Iowa, elimination of the EC would be a national disaster and the beginning of our road to Argentina and Cuba.


21 posted on 07/11/2011 11:54:10 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: grobdriver
I thought Fred Thompson was smarter than this.

I thought the same. Fred has clearly shown himself to be on the side of the Statists. Fred is an ENEMY of Liberty.

22 posted on 07/11/2011 11:54:38 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: BillyBoy

Thomspon was McCain’s stalking horse in 2008.


23 posted on 07/11/2011 11:55:36 AM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: mnehring
Wow, my respect for him just dropped by a big margin. The Electoral College ensures representation of the entire country, not just the election being controlled by a couple of high population centers.

Ditto. I very much wanted Thompson to be President, and even with this bone-headed position he'd be one of the best ever, but THIS is a big mistake. It effectively disenfranchises small, sparsely-populated states (and, full disclosure, I'm from Texas, so this doesn't apply directly to me).

EVERY time we mess with the basic structure of the Constitution, we screw things up even worse. The last HUGE mistake was direct election of the Senate, disenfranchising the states themselves. We can thank this move for unfunded mandates, at the very least, something that has and will continue to terribly burden the states.

Fred, back off of this. Everyone likes a politician humble enough to admit a mistake, or that they got snookered by some fast-talking advocate of a particular issue. NOW is the time to do so, before any permanent damage is done.

24 posted on 07/11/2011 11:56:19 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Baladas

This is stupid. I can’t believe Thompson has bought into this. Even though conservative states are gaining population I don’t see the risk of seeing vote totals being driven up in liberal strongholds which could flip the election even though a candidate could lose soundly on the electoral map being a good trade off. We might as well get rid of states where voting is concerned if this is the way to go. This would most certainly have the result of pushing our Presidential politics leftward which is the last thing we need.


25 posted on 07/11/2011 11:57:14 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
What little respect I had for Fred is completely gone now.

I take it you've seen his commercials for reverse mortgages on Fox News.

26 posted on 07/11/2011 11:59:18 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Baladas
It also encourages cheating.

In ‘Rat’ stronghold States, the electoral votes are going to the Rat - so there is no reason for an unethical elections board to “stuff the ballot box” with Rat votes.

A thousand extra fake votes do not actually do anything if those electoral votes are already going to the Rat. But if it is “popular vote” then those thousand fake votes actually count against a thousand legitimate votes.

Fred Thompson - he played a good President on TV - he looks the part - and when someone else writes his lines he can sound clever. That and a hot wife are about all he has going for him.

27 posted on 07/11/2011 11:59:50 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: All

I used to respect this man..


28 posted on 07/11/2011 12:02:05 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Baladas; All

Thomspon was McCain’s stalking horse in 2008.
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agreed. even if not intentional.
his half-hearted effort, simply divided conservative voters,
who might have united behind Hunter or someone,
and stopped McCain.

...and this isn’t rocket science. you don’t even need to understand this issue. simply remember, that the Founding Father’s are on one side, and the Democrats are leading the charge to change it.

...have liberals EVER changed things for the better?
Fred is an IDIOT at best.


29 posted on 07/11/2011 12:02:10 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Baladas

Worse idea ever


30 posted on 07/11/2011 12:03:06 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Baladas

Are there no sane Republicans left?


31 posted on 07/11/2011 12:04:16 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: AmusedBystander

They would be better off doing this by county. This way, Kings County in NYC has just as much representation as does some little county in Podunk.

Win the county, get a point. Most points win.


32 posted on 07/11/2011 12:09:18 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law.)
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To: Baladas

As an alternative idea, why not return to the balance of power the founding fathers envisioned:

House of Representatives democratically elected by the people.

Senate *appointed* by the State legislatures. Repeal the 17th Amendment to get rid of the faux democracy, and restore the ability of the States to protect the people from an out of control federal government.

President *elected* by the Electoral College. The presidency should not be a popularity contest. Only by tradition is the first ballot for president supposed to be who the elector is chosen to represent. If no president can be chosen in the first ballot, electors become free agents.

Finally, the president nominates Supreme Court justices, who must be approved by the senate, which *used* to mean, by the States.

America was thrown terribly out of balance the last time, and we have suffered for it since. Let’s not make things even worse.


33 posted on 07/11/2011 12:15:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“Has Thompson gone senile on us? “

Something like that, but not exactly. He’s lost it like old Newt “Callista and I” Gingrich lost it.


34 posted on 07/11/2011 12:20:26 PM PDT by ngat
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To: sportutegrl

Ha, ha, yes, Fred will make a buck any way he can. He was probably laughing at the people who fervently supported his campaign.

Politicians cannot be trusted.


35 posted on 07/11/2011 12:21:26 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Baladas
Getting rid of the electoral college will ensure dim rule for the rest of what would be our short history.

LLS

36 posted on 07/11/2011 12:24:13 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: Baladas
I love Fred, but this is a really, really bad idea. The Founders created the EC for a good reason.
37 posted on 07/11/2011 12:25:10 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good proposals there, but the idea of the state governments existing as anything other than as an administrative arm of the Federal Government, has been under assault since the ratification of the Articles of Confederation. As the immortal Christopher Lambert always said, “There Can Be Only One”.


38 posted on 07/11/2011 12:28:00 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Baladas

Fred can put this and his Reverse Mortgage ads where the sun never shines. What a disappointment!


39 posted on 07/11/2011 12:31:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Baladas

BAD idea Fred.

Definitely don’t want the, ahem, urban areas deciding who our President will be every four years.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 12:31:59 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I sent $100 to Fred’s campaign. Got a note back mixing my name and my wife’s name. And i continue to receive solicitations addressed to this phantom personage.


41 posted on 07/11/2011 12:32:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Originally posted by: yefragetuwrabrumuy
President *elected* by the Electoral College. The presidency should not be a popularity contest. Only by tradition is the first ballot for president supposed to be who the elector is chosen to represent. If no president can be chosen in the first ballot, electors become free agents.


While the Electors have always technically been 'free agents' after their election, the Electors for President and Vice-President ONLY get to vote ONCE in their respective State capitols. There is and never has been multiple voting "rounds" for the Electors. Given the 12th Amendment, if the Electors do not provide a majority to any candidate, only the top three vote getters of the Electors for President go to the House of Representatives. Therefore, only the House of Representatives gets to vote (potentially) multiple times to select a President. The Senate gets a choice of the top two Vice-Presidential vote getters of the Electors in the same manner.


dvwjr

42 posted on 07/11/2011 12:33:57 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: AmusedBystander

Are there no sane Republicans left?


I am beginning to wonder. He is a major disappointment. Seems to be most concerned with promoting his own relevancy.


43 posted on 07/11/2011 12:37:07 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Baladas
He needs to familiarize himself with Federalist 39 & 68.

I voted early for Fred in '08. I think he dropped out just after I mailed my ballot. Didn't matter. By the time it got to election day CA on Feb 5, it was down to three unacceptable choices: McCain, Huckster & Romney.

44 posted on 07/11/2011 12:40:21 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Baladas
The National Popular Vote bill has been signed into law in seven states — Maryland, Hawaii, Washington, Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Vermont and the District of Columbia

All hotbeds of extreme leftism. Is Fred insane?

45 posted on 07/11/2011 12:42:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Baladas

Bad idea Fred.


46 posted on 07/11/2011 12:51:27 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Baladas
And I gave money to this clown.

This is why I am waiting for Sarah to declare before I send her any more money.

I don't think she will, but if she pulls a Fred Thompson she was nothing but a tease.

47 posted on 07/11/2011 12:53:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I sent him money on Saturday and he resigned on Monday.

Scoundrel


48 posted on 07/11/2011 12:56:21 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Baladas

lol. I love stories like this.


49 posted on 07/11/2011 1:12:23 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Kartographer
I second that. I am now assamed that I ever supported Fred.

Ditto, he probably has the same thing Goldwater did before the end.
50 posted on 07/11/2011 1:18:54 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo
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