‘Your God Is My God’: Beck Delivers Speech Before Jewish Politicians, Knesset

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[blasater1960]

When I read Isaiah 9:6, it juts right out of the context,

Part 2: Isaiah 9 again is a verse that like many others has been tampered with by the church. Read this:

Isaiah 9

The living Christ changes the way I see the contextuality of scriptures, admittedly coloring it just as your view of God colors your view of scripture.

And therein lies the problem. You are starting your spiritual journey with the belief in a new testament and then backtracking into the Jewish scriptures trying to find support for NT doctrine.

I hold the same view as my forefathers going back 1500 years before Jesus. All messiahs must pass the test of the Jewish scriptures requirements for messiahs.

As I pointed out before, per the sriptures:

Human Sacrifice is forbidden. Jesus was a human.

Human vicarious atonement is forbidden.

There is not one verse saying the messiah will be a once for all time blood sacrifice. Not one.

There is not one verse where G-d is saying: I am G-d...I have a son. He is me. He will be a sin sacrifice.etc etc. Something so important and not one statement by G-d about it. Certainly at Sinai G-d would have told us he is 3-n-1. But no. He says One. No Form.

There is not one scripture saying messiah will have to come twice to get it done. Not one. No second chance. No do-over.

There is not one verse that says: You must accept messiah by faith. Not one.

There is not one scripture saying faith in messiah is required for salvation. not one.

There is not one verse that says the messiah will prove himself by being miracle worker or a ressurected person. Not one.

There is not one verse that says the messiah will complete the law for us and do away with it. Not one

There is not one verse that says messiah will be perfect and sinless. Not one.

There is not one verse that says messiah will be an eternal being sitting on the throne of David forever. Not one.

I could go on...but it is obvious. The Jewish messiah in no way is the NT messiah...born out of Grecco-Roman mythology, not the Jewish scriptures.

[blasater1960]

I think I have a way to explain a view of history.

That is a nice idea my FRiend but it actually works against you. Why?

Look at the history of religion. The arabs had thousands of gods...one of which was called allah. The Egyptians had many gods (including the ram/lamb god who the Israelites slaughtered on Passover) The Greeks and the Romans with their pantheons of gods, including half-man half gods (sound familiar?)The celts, pics, goths, etc etc...all had a multitude of gods. They often had human sacrifice (Jesus was a human sacrifice)...so they all had a primitive concept of what a god was.

Then came Abraham. And G-d revealed himself as a formless solitary G-d. This was a revolutionary concept.

Humanity did have a primitive view of electricity but electricity remained electricity. It did not become....sound or something completely different from its nature.

The nature of G-d changed from a pantheon of G-ds in the pagan world to the Israelite/Jewish view of One G-d, with no form.

Then thousands of years later (from Abraham) Chrisitianity takes the concept of monothesim backwards. Incorporating a human being into the godhead. A god-man hybrid person. A composite godhead...

Christianity makes god into a man. Then the Mormons come along, rewrite Christianity to make man a god. Not only "a" god but a pantheon of gods...again...It is revelation of G-ds nature in retrograde.