“Lets remember we dont control the Senate and White House. Lets get control of those, then we can talk about bigger things. We can only do what were realistically capable of getting done. The rest will come later.”
I disagree. The House is where all spending and revenue is generated. On top of that there alot of Senate Democrats that will vote with GOP because they can read the tea leaves. Pun intended.
House needs to stick together and Obama will fold like a cheap suit.
Exactly. Constitutionally, the House has the power over spending and taxing. The only reason that they are worried is that the Mediacracy (MSM) has had more power than the government to define the debate.
The conservatives have some media now, but the sources that most politicians are familiar with and most accustomed to kowtowing to, are all MSM.
I agree 100%. If the GOP would hold together, they could name their price and Obama would pay it. Obama cannot risk shutting down the government because for he and his ilk, government is their whole reason for being. It is their religion, it is their life. If the government shut down for any amount of time, they run the risk of people realizing they really don’t need that much government.
Alas, it won’t happen. This will be Bailout 2. The Bachmann Caucus will hold firm, but the “Statesman”... those same “Statesman” who brought us the Bailout will all band together again, and the insanity will continue. They’ll use the same arguments, too. The world will end if we don’t raise the debt ceiling. Just as it would have ended if we didn’t have the Bailout. That was BS then, and it’s BS now.
You’re forgetting the filibuster. Sure the GOP could probably get 3 or 4 moderate Dems to vote for bigger cuts but if you think Reid would ever let it get out of the Senate I’ve got a swamp to sell you in Florida. The thing would be filibustered into oblivion. And even in the million to one shot it ever made it to Obama’s desk he’d vetoed it without even skipping a beat. No way is Obama going to go into the 2012 elections without his base. Under those circumstances $200 billion a year may be the best we can do with no tax hikes. I say call it a victory and a good start and go home to work on getting the Senate and the White House so we can do much more in 2013.