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Angry John Boehner rallies GOP troops on debt limit
Politico ^ | July12 ,2011 | JOHN BRESNAHAN & JAKE SHERMAN & JONATHAN ALLEN |

Posted on 07/12/2011 9:25:29 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Speaker John Boehner told a closed gathering of House Republicans on Tuesday morning that he was “pissed” over being unable to reach a “grand bargain” with President Barack Obama to make sweeping entitlement changes in return for an overhaul of the U.S. tax code.

But Boehner also accused Obama of failing to lead on the impending crisis over boosting the $14.3 trillion debt limit, according to people inside the GOP meeting.

But while Boehner was trying to rally his Republican troops Tuesday morning, he did warn them that they will quickly lose leverage in the debate as the country grows closer to the Aug. 2 debt default deadline and Wall Street and business leaders pressure them to cut a deal.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who opposed Boehner’s efforts to cut a “grand slam” deal with Obama, was just as blunt as the speaker. Cantor told rank-and-file Republicans that unless Democrats drop their insistence on tax increases as part of an agreement to raise the debt ceiling, there may be no compromise possible with Obama and Democratic congressional leaders.

“If the Democrats continue to insist on tax increases, there is no viable path forward,” Cantor warned, according to sources.

The overwhelming sentiment from House Republicans, according to those present in the room, was that even $2 trillion in cuts over 10 years — roughly what is being discussed at the White House meetings — isn’t sufficient. Republicans want even more cuts, and they want them immediately. Moderate Rep. Cliff Stearns of Florida, a 22-year veteran of the House, stood up and said $2.5 trillion wasn’t enough for a deal.

Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didn’t want “fairy dust spending cuts” that are projected over the next decade.

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To: maggief
How am I being pulled by MSM?

Your false views of Boehner make it obvious.

The MSM likes to define GOP leaders. You are buying the lie.

101 posted on 07/12/2011 11:10:37 AM PDT by Justice
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To: NVDave
The only reason why Boehner has done an about-face on taxes (as of last Friday PM) was the fury that erupted towards the GOP over talk of a possible “deal” that included tax increases.

Nonsense. Cantor/Boehner/McConnell haven't budged in their position. It still remains to be seen if they will, but I'm pretty sure they will not and Obama knows they will not and that is why he's flailing in all directions.

102 posted on 07/12/2011 11:14:27 AM PDT by Justice
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To: Justice

It is not a false view, and not swayed by MSM.

I’ve been doing research for years, ten years here. Perhaps I have an inside track or two?

Moving on ...


103 posted on 07/12/2011 11:15:02 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner would have more credibility if it wasn’t for the fact that the first thing he did when the Tea Party freshmen hit the Hill has to tell them they would be a big bunch of babies if they didn’t vote to raise the debt limit.


104 posted on 07/12/2011 11:15:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The tea party was and is about the right to govern ourselves, according to natural right.)
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To: henkster

You’re right!

Then, I hope we can get Sarah Palin to schedule an “important LIVE press conference”. When the media creeps show up, hoping she will announce her campaign for President, she should instead blast President Obama for trying to play a “dirty trick” on Seniors, military dependents, the middle-class etc by holding up their checks — while keeping funds gushing to his pals at GE, Government Motors, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs etc.

She should ask, “How DARE he?”


105 posted on 07/12/2011 11:17:31 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
e media does not encourage me to follow what Bachmann is doing and support her

And the media is giving her all kinds of platforms in order to sway people like you.

You just don't get how they work. They'll deny her her platform when the time is right.

She says a lot of good things but when she can be used for their agenda (like now) they will definitely use her.

106 posted on 07/12/2011 11:17:55 AM PDT by Justice
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

“He does like to party!”

Some here find that hard to believe. Yeah, and Lindsey Graham is a chic magnet. ;)


107 posted on 07/12/2011 11:18:04 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Hojczyk

Dear Speaker Boehner: Please stop attending “White House Meetings” - let the President send his representative to the Hill. Are there three branches of government or not?


108 posted on 07/12/2011 11:18:16 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: maggief
Perhaps I have an inside track or two?

Doesn't appear so.

109 posted on 07/12/2011 11:19:39 AM PDT by Justice
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To: txrangerette

Why do I have the nagging feeling that Boehner is going to cave? Maybe it’s b/c he has caved in the past, and perhaps it’s b/c he won’t say things such as “Barack is preparing to withhold YOUR Social Security checks to try to force us to continue spending levels which are bankrupting generations.” He will allow Republicans to take the blame. He is weak. Bob


110 posted on 07/12/2011 11:28:05 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace." Al Stewart)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The people of West’s state should be asked to relieve West of his promise/duty to serve as their Rep in due regard for his needed service for the entire Nation as well as their state.


111 posted on 07/12/2011 11:28:06 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Justice

LOL!

Carry on ...


112 posted on 07/12/2011 11:28:17 AM PDT by maggief
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To: pfony1

Oooohhhh....I like that! The media will show up, and Sarah can pull another fast one on them! And it will expose 0bama for exactly what he is doing.


113 posted on 07/12/2011 11:29:27 AM PDT by henkster (Ethanol belongs in a beer can, not a gas tank.)
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To: maggief

Sure will.


114 posted on 07/12/2011 11:30:35 AM PDT by Justice
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To: txrangerette

I think that Boehner is soft and should resign as Speaker. There is no hatred in that opinion. Bob


115 posted on 07/12/2011 11:31:58 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace." Al Stewart)
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To: maggief

..and Ted Kennedy was a good driver.


116 posted on 07/12/2011 11:33:03 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Justice

That is beyond paranoid. She is not my one and only candidate. I want West to run, he isn’t but I do not call all those that are running names because he is not running.It hurts the cause and it is country before politics. Aren’t we all on the same side?I support Bachmann and Cain.West just spoke out on Obama’s corrupt beyond belief fastandfuriousGate. Bachmann did quite well telling BOR. She has her own platform and the media can call her all the names they want it does not effect her nor make her quit. People want reform and real change.The Alinskyized (pick your target and go after them) days are over;only because no one falls for it anymore. Bachmann broke through this in her last debate and she will again on Aug. 11th.By then Perry will be crowned like it or not and IMO Rubio,West or Bachmann will be picked as VP


117 posted on 07/12/2011 11:35:48 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: noinfringers2

Quote of the year you can say that again.


118 posted on 07/12/2011 11:38:46 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: pfony1

I wish her and others would speak out on fastandfuriosGate.


119 posted on 07/12/2011 11:41:05 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: NVDave

Having China produce what we cannot profitably produce means they have the purchasing power to buy more from others including government bonds.

Small =v13% compared to 87% as I said. And that includes exports and imports.

Only 10 yrs.? Most of the anti-Free Traders claim 30.

Bush campaigned on the prescription drug plan hence when elected he did what he promised.

The GOP has the only rational jobs plan DON”T RAISE TAX RATES.


120 posted on 07/12/2011 11:44:58 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: henkster

You’re right!

Then, I hope we can get Sarah Palin to schedule an “important LIVE press conference”. When the media creeps show up, hoping she will announce her campaign for President, she should instead blast President Obama for trying to play a “dirty trick” on Seniors, military dependents, the middle-class etc by holding up their checks — while keeping funds gushing to his pals at GE, Government Motors, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs etc.

She should ask, “How DARE he?”


121 posted on 07/12/2011 11:48:52 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: Hojczyk

Call the demons bluff! PERIOD.


122 posted on 07/12/2011 11:56:19 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Hojczyk

“Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didn’t want “fairy dust spending cuts” that are projected over the next decade.”

Just another reason for my tagline!


123 posted on 07/12/2011 12:05:13 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Bitsy

“Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didn’t want “fairy dust spending cuts” that are projected over the next decade.
Damn straight, Mr. West! DEEP CUTS — BRUTAL CUTS — NOW!!! Not in ten years. NOW!!!”

All righty now you’ve got it!

Now lets make sure the rest of our reps in the House get it too!


124 posted on 07/12/2011 12:10:07 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: ICCtheWay

AMEN!!!!! John Boehner better stop weeping at every move and take a strong stand and grow some dam guts! Obama has blown the budget from 2.7 Trillion dollars in 2008 up to 4.0 Trillion for 2011 and that number is highly suspect to rocket severely upward before the end of the year!!
REPUBLICANS BETTER START GETTING THE MESSAGE AND GIVING THE REAL MESSAGE TO REAL AMERICANS!!
SHUT THE GOVERNMENT PARASITES DOWN!! Pelosi spent over $100,000 in one year just on Booze for her Gubermint Supplied Air travel! and the Media didn’t make a stink nor did Our republican socalled Representatives!!


125 posted on 07/12/2011 12:13:02 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George Washington!!)
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To: maggief

“Well, I, for one, haven’t ... but I still think Boehner is a weak, GOP elite (with a drinking problem). He got the leadership position because it was his turn.”

East Coast moderate Republican of the type running the RNC.
Vote em out. Vote em all out (RINOs)

Big C Conservatives only...Don’t have one in your district? Nothing out there to prevent YOU from running! Just do it!


126 posted on 07/12/2011 12:13:58 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: qman; Thane_Banquo

“Exactly right. I wrote Boehner just that today”

Except the Democrat Senate will give Obama the cover he needs.....

We need to muscle some of those “conservative” (ahem) Democrats to get the Senate on the same page as the Republican House. That and tying up Senators like Collins, Lugar, Hatch, MacCain, Graham, Snowe, et al.


127 posted on 07/12/2011 12:18:58 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: jpsb

To all you say, I agree.


128 posted on 07/12/2011 12:45:27 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: maggief

“Like, I said. Believe what you want. Boehner has issues.”

Honey, being in the Congress/Senate....They All have issues, every single one of them. Even your favorite congresscritter.....(mine too)


129 posted on 07/12/2011 12:45:27 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: jpsb

To all you say, I agree.


130 posted on 07/12/2011 12:46:28 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Hojczyk
Allen West = Bad Ass
131 posted on 07/12/2011 12:56:49 PM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: Forty-Niner

I agree all of them live like kings and get cost of living raises while no else does and I am sure drink like JR Ewing when Sue Ellen run’s off while I’d also bet a lot of them were also on the DC madame’s book of frequent clients.The only exception I know of would be West.


132 posted on 07/12/2011 1:03:18 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: arrogantsob

We can profitably produce much of what China produces.

We can’t produce it profitably when their currency is pegged to undercut our costs.

We can’t produce it profitably when we’re adhering to laws and regulations that they do not.

And we can’t produce it profitably when we’re observing intellectual property laws that they do not.

Bush might have campaigned upon it, but the GOP leadership in the House broke the House rules to hold the vote open until they twisted enough arms to pass the bill. The bill would have failed without this tactic.

Simply not raising taxes isn’t going to restore jobs. Why aren’t we seeing jobs created now that the Bush tax cuts have been extended, hmmm?


133 posted on 07/12/2011 1:04:15 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Justice

As I was saying. The only thing Perry has to do is announce, go to the Aug 11th debate and pick a VP down the road.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/some-of-gop-establishment-is-undecided-on-2012-giving-perry-a-huge-opening/2011/07/11/gIQABxYvAI_story.html


134 posted on 07/12/2011 1:12:52 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: don-o
I'm liking Angry John a lot more than Weepy John.

Needed saying again, and louder.

135 posted on 07/12/2011 1:22:13 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: txrangerette

he did warn them that they will quickly lose leverage


Good points I did make some assumptions of whom them and they were.


136 posted on 07/12/2011 2:49:01 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Justice; stephenjohnbanker; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; ...
Speaking of Kennedy ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A52337-2001Dec16

Long Road to Reform
Negotiators Forge Education Legislation

By David S. Broder
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 17, 2001; Page A01

EXCERPT

“We had 30 to 60 of our own [conservative Republican] members who would not follow the president's path,” Boehner said. (In the end, 33 Republicans, along with six Democrats and two Independents, voted against the bill.) Boehner himself was ready to follow Bush, having become convinced that Republicans needed to do more for schools. He had come to share Miller's belief that too many poor children are consigned to academic failure simply because no one knows or cares that they are slipping behind. Boehner was the only child, in a family of 12, to receive a college degree.

Boehner and Miller met alone the day after their first Oval Office session and agreed they would try to write a bill together while resisting pressure from the powerful education lobby groups. Vouchers were off the table, they agreed. Bush had proposed them only as a final option for pupils in chronically failing schools and had signaled that if states wanted a voucher program, they should pay for it themselves.

But “Straight A's” was a potential deal-breaker. As Boehner put it, it was “the Holy Grail” to many Republicans “but White Lightning to Democrats.” Before the House committee voted, Bush called Miller and asked him to support at least the scaled-down, seven-state demonstration program of block grants that Kennedy had agreed to put in the Senate bill. Miller said no.

But the House Republican leadership prepared to offer what they called “Kennedy Straight A's” as an amendment on the floor. Boehner warned that it would end Miller's cooperation and drive off Democratic votes. The three top GOP leaders, plus Boehner, trooped down to the White House to present the issue to Bush. They said conservatives were upset at losing vouchers and would rebel if “Straight A's” vanished, too. Boehner argued adamantly for keeping a bipartisan coalition.

“I'm with Boehner,” Bush said, once again challenging his own party's governors and his conservative base.

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BOEHNER MELDED PARTIES ON BILL - Differences set aside to aid failing schools
Dayton Daily News (OH) - Monday, January 7, 2002
Author: Mei-Ling Hopgood Washington Bureau

EXCERPT

Passage of the bill, the 1,080-page manifestation of the president's top domestic priority, was much more difficult and complex than the simple stroke of the president's pen. The Elementary and Secondary Education Act had not been renewed in 1999, doomed mostly by partisan bickering. This time, according to interviews with legislators, aides and media accounts of negotiations, patience and a willingness to compromise on the part of the president and legislators ultimately led to passage of the $26.5 billion plan.

Many believed that negotiation pertaining to the plan would never end, Kennedy said on the Senate floor in December.

“In fact, it was always quietly moving forward,” he said. “We could not have succeeded in this effort without a great deal of support from both sides of the aisle.”

The political massaging began in December 2000, when Bush met in Austin with several legislators of both parties about education reform. Gregg, who was set to sit next to the president, switched his namecard so that Miller could sit next to and get to know Bush, according to accounts in the Washington Post and USA Today .

Kennedy was excluded from that visit. But soon after, Bush called Kennedy , tracking him down on a vacation in St. Croix, a staff member recalled. They talked about their families, and the conversation led to meetings, and ultimately, friendship.

Early in 2001, shortly after Boehner leapfrogged over a more senior member to be elected House Chairman of the Education and Workforce Committee, he and Miller, the committee's ranking minority member, met in Boehner ‘s office.

137 posted on 07/12/2011 3:31:40 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

The way things are going, Boner & Mcconnell will cave, as usual, and Obama will run against another RINO, like Perry or Romney, and he will squeak out a victory. America will be destroyed by 2016 over cowardice,deceit and self interest.

I’m not in a good mood today.


138 posted on 07/12/2011 3:42:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Danae
Bring a bill to the floor that can pass the house, then send it onto the senate. Let democrats there block it, or let Obama veto it. CALL THEIR BLUFF!!!!!!

Wasn't that done two or three months ago? Nothing ever changes or happens with the DC elites "in charge".

139 posted on 07/12/2011 3:50:37 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yes, one of our big problems is our own little uninformed Republican primary voters. And when our own go third party, it just strengthens the GOP establishment.


140 posted on 07/12/2011 3:52:20 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

” Yes, one of our big problems is our own little uninformed Republican primary voters. “

Bingo!


141 posted on 07/12/2011 4:01:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I suspect that the “anger” is a front; he said months ago he will cave, and he will. It’s all he knows to do.


142 posted on 07/12/2011 4:09:45 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: maggief

Somebody remind me...how did Boehner vote on TARP? Was he crying at the time?


143 posted on 07/12/2011 4:54:41 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: NVDave

“We can profitably produce much of what China produces.” I don’t believe this. Until of late most of what China sold us was low quality, low tech, low price per unit crap. If all trade with China stopped the upper classes here would never even know but for the antiques.

“We can’t produce it profitably when their currency is pegged to undercut our costs.” This is neither costless to the Chinese nor without benefit to the US. In essence it means China is subsidizing the US. The inflationary pressures of such a policy is already forcing some production out of China.

“We can’t produce it profitably when we’re adhering to laws and regulations that they do not.” This is true but nothing new in trade nor anything to stop trading about. Nothing the Left would like better than to force its regime down the throat of the rest of the world.

“And we can’t produce it profitably when we’re observing intellectual property laws that they do not.” This again is a problem the kind the hated International Law is designed to address. Too bad they produce little new or valuable enough to steal but that is what happens when an imitative economy is dependent upon a creative economy for success.

“Bush might have campaigned upon it, but the GOP leadership in the House broke the House rules to hold the vote open until they twisted enough arms to pass the bill. The bill would have failed without this tactic.” Standard D.C. sausage-making.

“Simply not raising taxes isn’t going to restore jobs. Why aren’t we seeing jobs created now that the Bush tax cuts have been extended, hmmm?” Try looking at the mad socialist in the White House. I did not mean the GOP could create jobs with President Stifle the Productive Class in office. However, even with him there the GOP policy will keep more people in their jobs so limits his destructive impact.


144 posted on 07/12/2011 5:13:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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