Skip to comments.Angry John Boehner rallies GOP troops on debt limit
Posted on 07/12/2011 9:25:29 AM PDT by Hojczyk
Speaker John Boehner told a closed gathering of House Republicans on Tuesday morning that he was pissed over being unable to reach a grand bargain with President Barack Obama to make sweeping entitlement changes in return for an overhaul of the U.S. tax code.
But Boehner also accused Obama of failing to lead on the impending crisis over boosting the $14.3 trillion debt limit, according to people inside the GOP meeting.
But while Boehner was trying to rally his Republican troops Tuesday morning, he did warn them that they will quickly lose leverage in the debate as the country grows closer to the Aug. 2 debt default deadline and Wall Street and business leaders pressure them to cut a deal.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who opposed Boehners efforts to cut a grand slam deal with Obama, was just as blunt as the speaker. Cantor told rank-and-file Republicans that unless Democrats drop their insistence on tax increases as part of an agreement to raise the debt ceiling, there may be no compromise possible with Obama and Democratic congressional leaders.
If the Democrats continue to insist on tax increases, there is no viable path forward, Cantor warned, according to sources.
The overwhelming sentiment from House Republicans, according to those present in the room, was that even $2 trillion in cuts over 10 years roughly what is being discussed at the White House meetings isnt sufficient. Republicans want even more cuts, and they want them immediately. Moderate Rep. Cliff Stearns of Florida, a 22-year veteran of the House, stood up and said $2.5 trillion wasnt enough for a deal.
Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didnt want fairy dust spending cuts that are projected over the next decade.
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Tell Boehner to “Stiffen UP!”
We aint got the money to follow Obama down the road to Financial Ruin! Lets hear Boehner start to talk about reducing the Bureaucratic Waste and Fraud in the federal Government NOW!! The Demorats were talking about the 500 Billion in Medicare Fraud! Go after the PERPS NOW!! Boehner, how about exposing how Obummer spent $50 Million on arming the Mexican Drug Cartels with federal taxpayer money used to finance the Illegal Sale of Weapons under “FAST and FURIOUS!” Boehner, for once! Just Listen to RUSH LIMBAUGH and follow the advice he is pouring out every Blessed Day!! SAVE OUR AMERICA NOW!!!
Notice there ain’t no photos of them drinking beer on the lawn these days.I did see one photo that looked like the bad guy in Captain Invincible used the “giggle gun “ on them-they was all doing the donkey /ass laugh I think John was the token Patriot in that photo.Giggle gun —anyone?
They’ll straighten out these Republicans who will be called racists with Obama playing the role of moderate.
” Well, I, for one, havent ... but I still think Boehner is a weak, GOP elite (with a drinking problem). He got the leadership position because it was his turn.”
Yep. Just the “good ol boy network” propping up other fellow members of the “good ol boy network”
These “back stabbers” are the same ones who would let Obama win re election by staying home if we cannot nominate the next Ronald Reagan.
You “think” he has a drinking problem?
My point is, the rap on Boehner is that “he will cave on taxes...mark it, he will cave”. Wrong. But will they admit it? They will double down against the man because he’s someone they like to verbally abuse.
Would we all like a more perfect leader? Sure. But there isn’t one. Stylistically, there are better ones than Boehner, but they would raise our ire sooner or later one way or another. That’s life.
Is he an elite?
Based on being in Congress a lot of years, yes, but based on his life in how he got there, no.
He was one of I think it was 9 children whose father ran a bar. By age 10 he worked there, sweeping floors, etc. He worked to help put himself through college and went to night school to get his degree. He started his own small business. He was elected president of a homeowner’s association where he lived, and he began to fight city hall, so to speak, and to care what the state and federal governments were doing as well that hurt people like him...small business owners. He then ran for the House.
I don’t see that as elite.
If you do, I can’t help it.
They are doing enough to hold the class warfare crap to a mere blurp but I want true reform I am tired of the games.The left gets power and blows it the right gets power and blows it and sits back (Bush) and allows their good name to be Alinskyized. I want America back.Enough of the games they have gone far enough. Let the left that still whines about vote counts in Fla. have Gore and Obama and all move to a liberal state and go broke protecting their warped ideals on their own.The left love and protect terrorists rights let them go play elsewhere I am sick of it.
Sorry, Boehner isn’t a dictator...that’s Obama’s gig.
He didn’t give this for that on the golf course. No deal has been reached.
What was the item he submitted back in February which was voted down by the Senate, 97-0?...LOL
Probable truth there —the lamestream media will be pushing the faux Presidents agenda.MSNBC,ABC, CBS and the rest will be
blaming the Republicans and insisting that We the people are too stupid to understand our nuanced First black President.
This is politico talking. They wrote the article and they controlled how they presented the material.
You could easily read the quote as meaning Boehner was warning them it’s going to get tougher as the deadline looms, not easier, to hold against tax increases and phony cuts (that never happen), to prepare them, to buck them up for the fight.
I say politico deliberately manipulated this material trying to portray Boehner as weak.
It worked on you.
It rolls off me like water off a duck’s back.
I don’t trust Cantor, either.
I see that now. They even say Boehner is PISSED to make him sound like the lowlifes they are.
Unless ‘Caveman’ Boehner has grown some balls in the past month or so, he will cave and claim victory.
You don’t think I’m dumb enough to post my source publicly on FR, now do you?!
fairy dust spending cuts
A former paratrooper saying fairy dust spending cuts. I love this guy.
Neither do I!
I’m with West, let’s get this done, do it right and move on. This country is sick and tired of nipping away for years and years at a problem we all know exists. Everybody just keeps passing the buck. Fix it or shut it down... one or the other. Until we do we can never move ahead with a future for this country... a true vision of greatness and a better future. Much different than this slow and certain death spiral we are in.
Can anybody do what is right? Everybody knows, must know, that is wrong to spend money you don’t have for things you don’t need... indeed, we can’t even spend money we don’t have for things we need. Spending beyond our means has to stop for the rebirth to begin.
“The biggest problem for the job market now is seen in our idiotic trade policies.
The biggest problems for domestic producers is regulation.”
Exactly. Think about live, producing factories withing a 50-mile range of where each of us lives. For many, we can count those on 1 hand.
A partial list of the GOP elite. Pay attention to who signed on. I’ve been doing so for some time.
Our National Panel of Experts:
Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney
John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt
Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison
Gingrich Joins Cantors Effort To Remake GOP
YES YES YES... Even if deep cuts in the Cabinet Departments, The White House Salaries, etc. would not save trillions - the Federal Bureaucracy needs to be curtailed — cut the Whole Federal Government employment by 25% in one shot. This country does not need 2 million people running it (ruining it too)... John Boehner can be pissed all he wants - his track record in accepting mediocre deals with obama is just not acceptable - therefore based on what Boehner HAS NOT DONE in the last nine months - he cannot be trusted to hold the line ... Boehner says he worried about the pressure from big business and Wall Street - WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE JOHN ? Are we chopped liver?
Exactly, "politico" should never be trusted, IMO.
If Boehner walked on water, we’d have some ignorant boobs here say he cant swim.
Boehner is doing exactly the right thing, he has stood firm despite a determined Democrat-media conspiracy to bait Republicans into enabling the Democrat agenda (aka ‘compromise’).
Yes, that is indeed what the MSM tries to make the conservatives think but it is actually not the truth.
Boehner is NOT an elite...he has risen from the bottom and earned the leadership because he has the respect of the House Reps. Very few voted against him for Speaker. In addition, his voting record in the House is almost as conservative as you can get. Some expect perfection which will never be possible and you will ALWAYS miss that target. Boehner is a good leader for the times.
“Boehner should call the House into session at the time appointed for the fake White House meetings, pass a stiff bunch of immediate deficit reduction stuff and let the Senate and/or Zer0 destroy it.”
Dont give the Obama Team any talking points about GOP obstructionism. Pass a debt ceiling increase bill and challenge the Senate to do the same.
No direct quote? Politico putting words in Boehner's mouth?
If you want to know WHY our guys fold in the first place? Instead of calling them up, contacting them and sending the message of what we want them to do, and giving them support when they deserve it, we complain about them in a forum that cant do a thing about it.
That's tits-on-a-bull useless.
My source is NOT MSM.
You can believe what you want. The guy is a loose cannon with loose lips.
That’s the end of it from me.
The only reason why Boehner has done an about-face on taxes (as of last Friday PM) was the fury that erupted towards the GOP over talk of a possible “deal” that included tax increases.
Boehner isn’t leading. He’s down on his knees every night, praying the Politician’s Prayer:
“Oh Lord, please tell me where my people wish to go... so that I might lead them there... a puff of wind upon my moistened finger is all I ask, oh Lord...”
Boehner has also been talking of pathetically timid cuts, and over “10 year” timeframes, which is utter nonsense. The 10 year projection in ‘98 or ‘99 was that we’d be most of the way to paying off our debt by now. 10 year projections are worse than useless.
We’re running a $1.5+ Trillion deficit right now. We need two things:
1. We need a budget, which the DNC refuses to prepare. Make a budget so we have spending benchmarks again. Duh.
2. We need to be talking about cutting $500B this year, $500B more next year, and $500B the year after that. And part of the cuts has to include entitlements.
” Boehner has also been talking of pathetically timid cuts, and over 10 year timeframes, which is utter nonsense. The 10 year projection in 98 or 99 was that wed be most of the way to paying off our debt by now. 10 year projections are worse than useless.
Were running a $1.5+ Trillion deficit right now. We need two things:
1. We need a budget, which the DNC refuses to prepare. Make a budget so we have spending benchmarks again. Duh.
2. We need to be talking about cutting $500B this year, $500B more next year, and $500B the year after that. And part of the cuts has to include entitlements. “
Say it bro!!
He does like to party!
I’ve been watching this cozy crew for 2 years.
Nope. The President doesn’t go to the Congress; the Congress’s Reps and Senators go to POTUS. This protocol was set early on, during Washington’s Presidency.
But Congress can make a balanced budget with deep, deep cuts, and shove it in front of the President and the Democrats. And they don’t have to go to the WH.
I believe they are going to the WH and saying “NO!” to BHO2 because it helps the Republicans politically. Notice, too, how distraught Obama is becoming, and publicly?
And you never miss much.
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I will defend Boehner and think that the people here that call him BONER are mimicking the left and DUers as it is the cool PC thing-like how everyone thought Bush was what the media painted him to be (see my screen name). (And Heck I may have even slipped and in the past called him BONER) There are some that post on here that think everyone is a RINO but Sarah Palin.
A deal will be devastating for Obama because he will look extremely weak to his left-wing if he does not get tax hikes right now. The Ryan plan is coming up next after this deal and that will involve negotiating more major cuts. If this current deal passes Obama and his leftists will have almost no leverage going into those talks...a good thing.
But go ahead and be pulled by MSM shenanigans...I do believe there are enough people seeing sense on this one that there will be little lasting damage to Repub progress.
“Of course it would international trade INCREASES jobs in both of the trading partners.”
Care to show me where that’s happened in our trade policy with China?
BTW, last I looked, trade was about 13% of US GDP.
I can put two and two together and I can see for the last 10 years that the GOP has had their head up their posteriors. We already had problems with entitlement spending, so what did the GOP do? Created a whole NEW entitlement, Medicare Part D. We already had problems with deficit spending, so Bush calls for a bailout on the taxpayer’s dime of the bankers and GM/Chrysler. We already had huge problems with illegal immigration, but Bush (and clowns like McCain) encouraged it more. Who bailed out the airlines when they should have failed? The GOP.
On and on and on.
The GOP has no credibility on containing government spending.
The GOP has no plans on how to improve the job situation in the US.
The GOP doesn’t even have a credible plan how to balance the budget.
You are correct...it is very childish to do so and they've picked the sick name up from the left.
And these DU -wannabees here on FR want to be taken seriously? Right.
Boehner is not what the media is trying to define him as. Looks like you get it.
“But go ahead and be pulled by MSM shenanigans”
So, tell, me. How am I being pulled by MSM? When have I ever been pulled by MSM??! You’ve got the wrong individual, FRiend.
Like, I said. Believe what you want. Boehner has issues.
The media does not encourage me to follow what Bachmann is doing and support her. Her words out of her very own mouth do.
All those that have conspiracy theories on the media being kind to Bachmann because they are shaking in their boots over Palin are ridiculous; as well as they must have missed all of the hit pieces on Bachmann some even citing the competition.
The media is eating it up every time they call Bachmann a RINO as divided the media will conquer. The only people directly causing any ‘fracture of unity’ as you say, are the childish people that think that Bachmann is ‘stealing’ Palin’s podium; they even go as far as to say SARAH was there first.I understand them not posting any Bachmann favorable articles but they go out of their way to call Bachmann a RINO and I think they warped from DU or something.Someone needs to tell them that if they encourage Bachmann’s tea party responses and stances they are NOT betraying their self made Palin goddess.Their actions turn people off from Palin.
$2T/yr cuts minimum: stop the hemorrhaging, and start meaningful repayment of principal.
Just walk out upon suggestion of anything under $1T/yr.