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Boehner: Debt Ceiling Increase Obama's Problem (Boehner won't get fooled again)
fox news ^ | 7/12/2011 | fox news

Posted on 07/12/2011 9:42:15 AM PDT by tobyhill

House Speaker John Boehner is turning up the heat on President Obama, calling the debt-ceiling increase "his problem" and putting the onus on him to present a deficit-reduction plan that can pass Congress.

Republicans in both chambers had tough words for the administration ahead of another White House sit-down Tuesday afternoon. On the Senate floor, GOP Leader Mitch McConnell accused the president and his party of "deliberate deception."

The comments may reflect increasing pressure from rank-and-file Republicans to press for deeper spending cuts and not cave in to the administration's call for tax hikes.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; bhofail; boehner; debtceiling; obama; obamadepression

1 posted on 07/12/2011 9:42:21 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

I think the two Republican leaders, Boehner and McConnell are finally starting to get it.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 9:44:53 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

I do too.

I saw McConnell on a Sunday show, and the host put up a quote from Ron Paul about how cuts have to be NOW not later, b/c they never show up. I wondered if the host were trying to set up McConnell by putting up a quote from the “kooky” Ron Paul.

McConnell didn’t budge. He said that the quote was absolutely right. (Which of course it is).

And...Boehner is right here. Rightly or wrongly, the POTUS is going to be seen by the public as the one to lead on this issue. He has to propose a solution that the party that controls the House will support.

And the House has said, no tax increases.

So that’s political reality. (Problem is, Obama knows that if he “caves” the the House GOP he will lose re-election. But I think I am starting to see what Rush and others have been saying....Obama is going to lose no matter what, and this week’s events are merely clarifying that).


3 posted on 07/12/2011 9:48:13 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Signalman

About time.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 9:49:48 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Signalman

They would be fools not to understand that they have the President up against the wall. The jobs situation is crap, the stimulus failed and worked so badly that it would have performed better and been less expensive if we’d just handed out $100,000 checks in the street. The President and the Democrats are in a box. Upwards of 60% of the public don’t want the debt limit increased and most don’t want taxes raised on job creators. The generic ballot numbers are falling for the Democrats because they have lost this debate and they are proving that they care more about spending spending spending than they do about the solvency of the US govt. They are unecessarily placing those all important entitlements at risk when they can easily make enough cuts to get us through the end of the year relatively painlessly.


5 posted on 07/12/2011 9:54:34 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: ConservativeDude

“O” already lost.

Leadership is one thing you can’t fake. “O” is not a leader and cannot even make himself APPEAR as a leader.

He’s done.


6 posted on 07/12/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by SMARTY (Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, politicians. All three need supervision.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan; CourtneyLeigh; Just Kimberly; Knuckrider; MBohman; republicanbob1; jcwky; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

Lets' give SotH John Boehner / Sen. McCONNELL a well-deserved hand
....as long as they (John B. / Mitch M. ) stand strong.


7 posted on 07/12/2011 9:59:52 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / DumboEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: ConservativeDude
Spot on, CD

I see the deliberate deception also as Obama and the rest of the criminal underclass trying to sucker the GOP into budging on tax increases so as to hammer them with a broken pledge in 2012

HOLD THE LINE! SPENDING CUTS TODAY!

8 posted on 07/12/2011 10:00:45 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: tobyhill

Sounds like Boehner and McConnell are taking the right tact in this ‘debate’. They have laid out their plan and stated their requirements. As a result, the debate is turning back towards the theme that ‘Obama must make the final decision’. This of-course is absolutely what Barry and DIMs don’t want to have happen, because whatever choice he makes is going to piss a lot of people off. The MSM has been trying very hard to portrait Barry as the centrist in the room and that the decision is with the Repubs, but it looks like he’s starting to panic.


9 posted on 07/12/2011 10:03:45 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: ConservativeDude
And the House has said, no tax increases.
So that’s political reality.

enough said....


10 posted on 07/12/2011 10:04:05 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / DumboEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: tobyhill
After the Republicans' statements this morning, it should be an interesting meeting this afternoon...


11 posted on 07/12/2011 10:04:08 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I love DeMint. As all of us here do.

But I have to confess: I have always thought that McConnell was a pretty wily strategist, and pretty tough, and generally speaking, pretty conservative.

I think at this moment in time he is doing well.


12 posted on 07/12/2011 10:08:14 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: COBOL2Java

When was that picture taken?

He’s so childish, with the middle finger all the time. What an embarrassment.


13 posted on 07/12/2011 10:09:51 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: "I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.")
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To: LoneStarGI
Sounds like Boehner and McConnell are taking the right tact in this ‘debate’.
The MSM has been trying very hard to portrait Barry as the centrist in the room and
that the decision is with the Repubs, but it looks like he’s starting to panic.

...and the LMSM, Is terrified, too.....
...and Nazi Pelosi / Dirty Reid & the LMSM vetted "the Won"


14 posted on 07/12/2011 10:10:12 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / DumboEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: COBOL2Java

>> After the Republicans’ statements this morning, it should be an interesting meeting this afternoon...

Short meeting, I’m guessing. :-)


15 posted on 07/12/2011 10:10:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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THEY’RE NOT DONATING MONTHLY!


** help .. click **

16 posted on 07/12/2011 10:19:09 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Nervous Tick; All

PREDICTION:

Obama will fold like a house of cards just before his Ramadan Vacation begins, and the MSM will tell us for the entire month of August how BRAVE Obama was, and What a LEADER Obama was, just like after Obamacare passed....


17 posted on 07/12/2011 10:20:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: Signalman

They’ve had it for awhile now but not many have seen.


18 posted on 07/12/2011 10:29:49 AM PDT by Justice
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To: COBOL2Java
Bambi can give 'em the finger all he wants, but it won't matter as long as Boehner and McConnell stick to their guns.

Maybe... just maybe... they have finally figured out that compromise with Democrats is not compromise at all, but surrender - because they lie without conscience, knowing that the news media will always cover for them.

Ronald Reagan agreed to tax hikes in exchange for spending cuts that never materialized. George Bush (41) allowed himself to be suckered into reneging on his "Read my Lips" pledge, and it cost him the Presidency (and without getting the spending cuts he was promised, either).

The only way to beat the Democrats is to deny them and ignore the screams. It's like dealing with toddlers.

19 posted on 07/12/2011 10:39:11 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Nervous Tick

What the republicans should ask Hussien at the beginning of the meeting is: “Where is your plan?” When Hussien says starts talking in platitudes, the republicans should stand up and leave the meeting. They should immediately hold a presser and say that Hussien does not have a plan and there will be no more meetings until the Hussien issues a plan.


20 posted on 07/12/2011 10:39:56 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: tcrlaf
PREDICTION: Obama will fold like a house of cards just before his Ramadan Vacation begins, and the MSM will tell us for the entire month of August how BRAVE Obama was, and What a LEADER Obama was, just like after Obamacare passed....

Obama will fold and then claim he didn't and move on. Don't expect any epiphany from Odumbo the Magic Mulatto. The MSM will cover for him and only the hardcore left will have their panties in knot that they cam real close further Marxism deconstruction. Obama gave the Republicans a gift. There used to be a old Reagan era axiom that get the Democrats talking on taxes and you got them.

21 posted on 07/12/2011 10:42:34 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: tobyhill

Keep on keeping on Boehner, you are getting someplace


22 posted on 07/12/2011 11:09:49 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TheOldLady
LOL on your "Someone is wrong on the Internet" cartoon!
23 posted on 07/12/2011 11:55:45 AM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: ConservativeDude; Signalman
You guys need to eat crow. Your boy McConnell is already bending over.

It's time to burn Mitch McConnell in effigy...

24 posted on 07/12/2011 12:09:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I suspect you have been guppied again.

You are so desperate for the GOP to fail that you will believe anything negative.

25 posted on 07/12/2011 12:19:33 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: proud American in Canada
When was that picture taken?

He’s so childish, with the middle finger all the time. What an embarrassment.


While I believe he has flipped the bird several times, this is actually just a semi-famous photoshop. Somebody removed a finger so it looks like his middle finger is the only finger that's up, but you can see that it's altered, they didn't do a very good job. The original is easy to find.

It's telling that this is believable though. I even thought for a few seconds that it was real the first time I saw it until I took a closer look.
26 posted on 07/12/2011 12:36:20 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Redleg Duke

Yeah, and in December all those people who said McConnell and Boehner would cave and end the Bush tax cuts were proved right!

Oh hey, wait a minute...


27 posted on 07/12/2011 12:37:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: andy58-in-nh
but it won't matter as long as Boehner and McConnell stick to their guns.

They will only stick to their guns as long as we make them stick to their guns. This is a problem with a lot of Republican politicians these days. The moment we look away, they will slack off.
28 posted on 07/12/2011 12:38:04 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

of course that “could” happen, but there is nothing in that link to Redstate that is substantive. It’s just hearsay and rhetoric.

Of course, again, we know from history that it “could” happen.

But if the GOP caves, then not only will Obama be re-elected, but the GOP will ensure the rise of a (small, but very damaging to the GOP) third party.....I think the pols know that, and since the only thing that motivates them is their jobs, I don’t look to them to cave. (But we’ll see).


29 posted on 07/12/2011 12:41:28 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How much did you stock up for Y2K back in the day...because you are far too easily fooled by internet drivel.


30 posted on 07/12/2011 12:44:36 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Prince Caspian; STARWISE

I wish it were mine, your Majesty. FReeper STARWISE gave it me to post.


31 posted on 07/12/2011 12:56:54 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: ConservativeDude

“(Problem is, Obama knows that if he “caves” the the House GOP he will lose re-election. But I think I am starting to see what Rush and others have been saying....Obama is going to lose no matter what, and this week’s events are merely clarifying that).”

And Boehner “caving” will only insure that both Obama AND Boehner will lose their relection bids, despite the MSM talking points predicting a Obama win in that circumstance.


32 posted on 07/12/2011 1:08:32 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Signalman

I doubt they understand the principle involved, but as long as they take the right actions, OK.


33 posted on 07/12/2011 1:23:04 PM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: TheOldLady; Prince Caspian

34 posted on 07/12/2011 1:30:40 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker downa)
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To: Forty-Niner

And Boehner “caving” will only insure that both Obama AND Boehner will lose their relection bids, despite the MSM talking points predicting a Obama win in that circumstance.”

I’m not so sure...I think a Boehner cave might well hand a victory to Obama, in the same way a Bush cave on “no new taxes” gave the Democrats victory on that point, AND gave the White House to Clinton (via Perot, obviously, but still).

Bottom line, though, I really think the GOP has the better poker hand here.


35 posted on 07/12/2011 1:55:19 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

“Bottom line, though, I really think the GOP has the better poker hand here.”

No arguement there......I do too! They just need the stones to play it!


36 posted on 07/12/2011 11:44:27 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: tobyhill

All the GOP needs to do to “put the screws to him” is to STAND FIRM.


37 posted on 07/13/2011 12:22:09 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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