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14 Cities That Are Being Eaten Alive By Public Sector Workers
Business Insider ^ | Jul. 13, 2011 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 07/13/2011 9:55:51 AM PDT by george76

Although national attention has largely focused on state budget battles like Wisconsin's union showdown and Minnesota's state shutdown, the real spending struggle is actually taking place at the local level.

As federal stimulus money runs dry, states are scaling back on municipal aid and revenue sharing. The cuts are adding immense pressure to strained local governments, many of which are already struggling under huge debt burdens. After years of declining tax revenues, cities and towns across the country are now running out of ways to deal with their ballooning budget deficits.

Public employee costs account for a large share of municipal budget woes. While worker compensation accounts for just 30% of state spending, personnel costs tends to eat up between 70% and 80% of local government funds.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bankruptcities; bhoeconomy; colorado; democrats; economy; liberalfascism; obamadepression
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1 posted on 07/13/2011 9:55:55 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The other day I was line to renew my CCW, talking to a ‘Park and Recs’ employee. We talked about how hard it was to get to the Sheriffs office to renew. Anyway, he mentioned that he had almost ‘1.5 years of comp time’ that he can never use...to hard to schedule...and they are always asking him to work more.

My heart went out to him.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 10:05:57 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: george76

The drones out number the worker bees! The politicians have struck a mortal blow to our economy and it is in its death throes. Soon the battle for raw survival begins.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 10:07:32 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: george76

Each and every one of the cities is run by....liberals.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 10:11:58 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: george76

How in the hell is a city employee, worth more that a Productive side employee?? and How was this allowed to happen?


5 posted on 07/13/2011 10:12:38 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

He has a job yes?


6 posted on 07/13/2011 10:12:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: george76

The Cities

  1. New York City
  2. Los Angeles
  3. Chicago
  4. San Francisco
  5. Pittsburgh
  6. North Las Vegas
  7. San Jose, CA
  8. Providence, RI
  9. New Haven
  10. Newark
  11. Stockton, CA
  12. Colorado Springs
  13. Costa Mesa, CA
  14. Central Falls, RI

7 posted on 07/13/2011 10:13:42 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: george76

All liberal bastions ..shocker


8 posted on 07/13/2011 10:16:44 AM PDT by rainee
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To: george76

The parasites have just about killed the host, and they have no intention of stopping their destructive ways.

It is going to get ugly...


9 posted on 07/13/2011 10:17:26 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Technically speaking, aren’t the drone bees the ones doing the work in a beehive?


10 posted on 07/13/2011 10:20:01 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: rainee

except Costa Mesa, CA has finally righted their ship & the unions are fighting them tooth/nail..


11 posted on 07/13/2011 10:21:20 AM PDT by rainee
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To: george76

If it were only 14 cities. I suspect that 75% + of all municipalities—cities, counties, state governments—have unsustainable benefits for their workers. These 14 cities are the first to reach the point where they don’t have any more money to pay for them. The other cities will hit this point too in the near future.


12 posted on 07/13/2011 10:22:05 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
My daughter just earned her 4 year degree in social work and has grown even more conservative as she starts her first job. She's already gotten her supervisor fired just by passing along information from one of her clients that she had never shown up for work which the supervisor had turned in reports and billing time sheets to collect.

I suspect people like that are just the tip of the iceberg and one of the reasons my daughter got hired so quickly was to help root them out.

I'm surprised that Colorado Springs in #3 on this list, probably the only conservative city of the 14. Does anyone know why?

The 14:

  1. Central Falls, Rhode Island
  2. Costa Mesa, California
  3. Colorado Springs, Colorado
  4. Stockton, California
  5. Newark, New Jersey
  6. New Haven, Connecticut
  7. Providence, Rhode Island
  8. San Jose, California
  9. North Las Vegas, Nevada
  10. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
  11. San Fransicko
  12. Chicago
  13. Los Angeles
  14. New York City

13 posted on 07/13/2011 10:22:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: george76

This article misses the point. Who negotiated these agreements? POLITICIANS. Who voted to underfund pensions and benefits? POLITICIANS. Why? TO GET RE-ELECTED.

WHO VOTED FOR THEM? There’s your problem.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 10:23:59 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: COBOL2Java

No mention of Boulder, CO or Asheville, NC?

Both are liberal bastions.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 10:24:08 AM PDT by doc11355
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To: george76

New Haven, CT is on the list. Not at all surprised.

It’s also #4 on the list of most dangerous cities. Maybe there s connection. (Duh!)


16 posted on 07/13/2011 10:24:27 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: piytar

When the parasites no longer have a host to prey, they usually move on to greener pastures to suck dry.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 10:24:30 AM PDT by eaglestar
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To: All

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18 posted on 07/13/2011 10:26:55 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: rainee

“All liberal bastions ..shocker”

And all but three are Northeastern or West Coast.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 10:27:10 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Hay, hay, hay....”Texas not included”.

Seriously, we do see all kinds of out- of state- license plates from many of the towns listed and welcome people who want to work and need to work.

Guess Rick Perry has done a lot of good for the “Great State of Texas.”

20 posted on 07/13/2011 10:27:30 AM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting...still not tilting...)
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To: All
...wow...Philly is not on the list...

Maybe when the data is revised...LOL...just like every Fed Economic Report issued these days...they are revised down even after the bad news is delivered.

21 posted on 07/13/2011 10:37:13 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: yldstrk
He has a job yes?

Just that day, he had put the finishing touches on a new splash pad. He even let the kids play in the water that afternoon - the day before the splash pad was scheduled to open. Who says government is inefficient...

22 posted on 07/13/2011 10:40:04 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“How in the hell is a city employee, worth more than a Productive side employee?? and How was this allowed to happen?”

In the commercial environment somebody is always looking at the bottom line. If I put so much as one hour of overhead on my timecard my boss would call me up and ask what it was for. Often, I’d be told to take it off. That means either making up the time on my time or mischarging. I always made it up on my time as mischarging to a federal contract is a federal crime.

I had a conversation with a state worker friend. When personal computer word processors became available the company I was working for laid off the typing pool that month. Hundreds of women were gone in 30 days. The state, on the other hand, just kept the typing pool on until they retired or eventually found other work in the state. Some of them, he said, sat and read books for two or three years.

THAT is the difference. A private worker MUST pay his way. A state worker isn’t expected to be productive; just part of the voting and management empire(s).


23 posted on 07/13/2011 10:42:08 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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24 posted on 07/13/2011 10:49:41 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“How in the hell is a city employee, worth more than a Productive side employee?? and How was this allowed to happen?”

In the commercial environment somebody is always looking at the bottom line. If I put so much as one hour of overhead on my timecard my boss would call me up and ask what it was for. Often, I’d be told to take it off. That means either making up the time on my time or mischarging. I always made it up on my time as mischarging to a federal contract is a federal crime.

I had a conversation with a state worker friend. When personal computer word processors became available the company I was working for laid off the typing pool that month. Hundreds of women were gone in 30 days. The state, on the other hand, just kept the typing pool on until they retired or eventually found other work in the state. Some of them, he said, sat and read books for two or three years.

THAT is the difference. A private worker MUST pay his way. A state worker isn’t expected to be productive; just part of the voting and management empire(s).”

Nice post thanks.


25 posted on 07/13/2011 10:50:46 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: COBOL2Java

What is the matter with New Orleans, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Detroit, St. Louis they aren’t measuring up.


26 posted on 07/13/2011 10:51:43 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Vigilanteman
I'm surprised that Colorado Springs in #3 on this list, probably the only conservative city of the 14. Does anyone know why?

I'll take a stab at that.

If an effort to correct the situation we recently have gone to a full time Mayor.

In the past the city council and mayor were temporary. At one point a few years ago a lady was appointed mayor who was the wife of a prominent attorney. Shortly after being appointed mayor she got a divorce and she came out of the closet as a lesbian. At that point Political Correctness ran amok. It wasn't a pretty sight. We are now in recovery.

Hope this helps.

27 posted on 07/13/2011 10:56:48 AM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Oh, please your hystrionics are silly. This country has has awful leadership for centuries after since Jefferson unleashed Class Warfare in all its fury. What we are facing now is way beyond Urkel and the Idiots and is not limited to the US. But any collapse as you envision will take decades if not a century to go down to raw survival. There is no Mongol Horde at the gates.
28 posted on 07/13/2011 10:58:21 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: eaglestar

But this is a nationwide systemic problem. There aren’t many greener pastures besides Texas, and Perry is slicing real budget here. So Texas isn’t as good for parasites.

When the parasites run out of places to go, they get violent. Witness Greece...


29 posted on 07/13/2011 10:59:34 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Cities drowning in Socialism BUMP
30 posted on 07/13/2011 10:59:37 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: arrogantsob

It is a process not a magic moment. I’ve lived long enough to see it-it is really happening. The trend is down.


31 posted on 07/13/2011 11:10:20 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: eaglestar
When the parasites no longer have a host to prey, they usually move on to greener pastures to suck dry.

Most human parasites live close to bodies of water. It's in their bones. They will tell you they feel claustrophobic living far inland. When the host dies they are genetically predisposed to get on the next boat and sail away to the next victim.

32 posted on 07/13/2011 11:14:00 AM PDT by Reeses (Obamacare: Do not resuscitate)
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To: arrogantsob
There is no Mongol Horde at the gates.

Well, until we get one I guess the gangbangers, communists, anarchists, radical environmentalists, statists, Mexican Mafia and stealth jihadis will just have to do.

33 posted on 07/13/2011 11:31:04 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: knittnmom
I think he meant to say that drone bees are becoming outnumbered by welfare queen bees:)
34 posted on 07/13/2011 11:32:05 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: piytar

While I admire what y’all are doing in Texas, you might want to keep an eye on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2747837/posts


35 posted on 07/13/2011 11:36:19 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Max in Utah

Our most dangerous enemies are internal. Even the Illegals would be a minor irritant but for the Party of Treason, the Democrats.


36 posted on 07/13/2011 11:37:27 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: COBOL2Java

5 of 14 in CA. Figures


37 posted on 07/13/2011 11:40:02 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: KosmicKitty
New Haven, CT is on the list. Not at all surprised. It’s also #4 on the list of most dangerous cities. Maybe there s connection. (Duh!)

I'll bet the 'most dangerous' cities also have high rates of people on Social Security Disability. Not talking about disabled vets or people who are blind or those really disabled - talking about gang-bangers, drug addicts and alcoholics... sitting on the dole forever.

38 posted on 07/13/2011 11:40:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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To: COBOL2Java

My former home town is at number two on the list. Can’t say that I’m the least bit surprised. The bureaucracy there is quite something to behold.


39 posted on 07/13/2011 11:40:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: arrogantsob

don’t read much news, do you?


40 posted on 07/13/2011 11:42:14 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The drones out number the worker bees!

Funny, that... when things get tough in the hive, the workers start driving out and/or killing the drones.

41 posted on 07/13/2011 11:43:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: george76

I’d advise y’all to check the police/firefighter/BigEducation shenanigans in your OWN municipalities before gloating over this list.


42 posted on 07/13/2011 11:44:30 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: COBOL2Java

I can’t believe Philthadelphia isn’t on the list.


43 posted on 07/13/2011 11:45:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: paul51

These cities are going to be bailed out by their state, until the state can’t do it anymore, and then the state will beg the fedgov for a bailout.

When you see the first state telling a begging city that they can’t help them,

you better be heading to your “bug out”, because that’s the sign that the slow collapse is starting.


44 posted on 07/13/2011 11:59:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: eaglestar

Said parasites cannot hope to get hired somewhere else. Certainly not in the “real world.”

The parasites are the last to die, but they die just as surely as the host.

We are going to see a wave of municipal bankruptcies across the fruited plain. Legal details notwithstanding. It will happen because it has to happen.

Or maybe, like that dysfunctional town in GA, local governments will simply stop paying pensions and benefits, court orders notwithstanding.


45 posted on 07/13/2011 12:21:43 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: MrB

Not to worry, retirees and the disabled aren’t much for rioting. They will die quietly out of sight.

Something tells me we’ll be seeing these kind, caring democrat bastions being the most ruthless in abandoning the weak, halt and lame to their fates.


46 posted on 07/13/2011 12:24:10 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: GOPJ

Actually, New Haven’s a “sanctuary” city. Guess I don’t need to explain further.


47 posted on 07/13/2011 12:24:48 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: MrB

once the support is cut off from the parasites and public employees because there are no funds, things will get ugly.


48 posted on 07/13/2011 12:45:47 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Ken H

:-)


49 posted on 07/13/2011 12:50:44 PM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: sinanju

It’s not the city retirees that you have to worry about, no...

but when a city defaults, and the state cannot help them, it goes up the chain to the fedgov.

If you want to wait around for THAT default, be my guest.


50 posted on 07/13/2011 12:51:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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