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55% Oppose Tax Hike In Debt Ceiling Deal (So much for Hussein's 80%)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 14 July 2011 | S Rasmussen

Posted on 07/16/2011 11:29:47 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

As the Beltway politicians try to figure out how they will raise the debt ceiling and for how long, most voters oppose including tax hikes in the deal.

Just 34% think a tax hike should be included in any legislation to raise the debt ceiling...55% disagree and say it should not.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Democrats want a tax hike...82% of Republicans do not. Among [Independents], 35% favor a tax hike and 51% are opposed.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :"” Check out tomorrow’s shows to see if Republicans have inproved their messaging. “,,,I never watch any of them. That’s why we pay you the big bucks!"

I DVR them and scan through them to find the gems in the piles of crap.

51 posted on 07/16/2011 9:43:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

I just KNEW that you weren’t a masochist ;-)


52 posted on 07/16/2011 9:53:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: DTogo

The could, but in typical Liberal fashion, it’s your behavior they want to control, not their own.


53 posted on 07/16/2011 10:05:30 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: gunner03

“And 49% of the people, who pay NO taxes, are probably in favor of a tax hike. When does the tax war start?”

Which are mostly Democrats. The “Your stuff is Our stuff party”.


54 posted on 07/17/2011 4:17:03 AM PDT by DB
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To: freedomfiter2

Yes there are.

There are a good number of people who live off a government check and don’t work for it.

The taxes they “pay” are with other peoples money, not their own. Therefore THEY pay no taxes.


55 posted on 07/17/2011 4:21:30 AM PDT by DB
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To: arrogantsob

Not paying federal income taxes isn’t a problem. Some people are raising the next generation of children and shouldn’t be paying anything out of a $35,000 income. To be fair, all workers pay the SS tax and if they are self employed pay a double share. This is a regressive income tax. The lower income earners pay a higher rate than high income earners.


56 posted on 07/17/2011 5:31:39 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Biggest liar to hold the office in my lifetime.


57 posted on 07/17/2011 5:46:46 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Recovering_Democrat

He is, always has been and always will be a liar. Anyone who is running against him next yr. needs to just outright call him that word “LIAR” because he is. There is no way it can be tolerated to let the media and him create the fiction they do on a daily basis thinking and knowing that just about every Republican will not say the word and will not call him out on all the dishonest things and unConstitional actions he’s taking.


58 posted on 07/17/2011 5:51:54 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded (Palin 2012)
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To: Americanexpat

There will be neverending footage. They can use his own words and actions. He’s so confident the public will be distracted and fed their storied by the media that they will not realize the lies he tells every time he opens his snout.


59 posted on 07/17/2011 5:54:55 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded (Palin 2012)
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To: mrspeelwerneeded

storied=stories


60 posted on 07/17/2011 5:56:13 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded (Palin 2012)
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To: gunner03
And 49% of the people, who pay NO taxes, are probably in favor of a tax hike. When does the tax war start?

The survey question the Dems used was probably something like "To save the economy, would you accept a tax hike on the richest 2%?" or some such.

61 posted on 07/17/2011 5:59:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

How about “Ploopy In Chief?”
(Thanks to the Wimpy Kid...)


62 posted on 07/17/2011 7:00:52 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Nothing is so bad that a good skirl on the Pipes can't cure! Long live sionnsar!)
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To: Monkey Face

Poofter-In-Chief is probably more accurate ;-)


63 posted on 07/17/2011 7:06:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: hosepipe

The people who believe that they are entitled to live for free off government programs (IOW typical Liberal base) and that those that have wealth owe people that don’t, should have their citizenship revoked because that is being UnAmerican.

If we had a media that was impartial, when Obama said people like me should pay more in taxes, the follow up would have been Mr. President we reviewed your Income Tax records and it seems that you took every possible deduction that you could, why didn’t you simply allow the government to take more, if that is truly how you feel?


64 posted on 07/17/2011 8:58:46 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Ask a liberal to explain how tax increases create jobs in America)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The Ploopy-Poofter-In-Chief?


65 posted on 07/17/2011 9:24:45 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Nothing is so bad that a good skirl on the Pipes can't cure! Long live sionnsar!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

No. It’s a conspiracy. Obama would never lie to me. 88% of Americans DO want a tax hike. They just don’t know it yet.


66 posted on 07/17/2011 10:45:50 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: hosepipe

Democrat politicians are different than Democrat voters - the pols all vote the same way or else no $$$$$ from Pelosi for their next re-election run. Voters on the other hand are free to say what they believe.


67 posted on 07/17/2011 11:13:05 AM PDT by gnawbone (Bureaucrats piss me off and I should know, I am one.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Poverty is concentrated in single black mothers who are raising a generation of vicious bastards literally. Crime is concentrated in this generation of children growing up with little positive guidance or contact with males worthy of emulating. That is the hard truth and most of these kids would be much better off placed in orphanages.

It is also important to have everyone pay something for running the government. Those who have to pay nothing have no incentive to make sure it is operated efficiently and only on those things which are necessary for the public good. Those who pay nothing are the reason taxes have been raised so often and so high. That is not to say that there are not some within this group who vote against bankrupting the nation but they are a small minority.

SS deductions are not truly taxes since they are contributions to provision for one’s future linked to an individual person. They are actually forced investments or savings very similar to buying an annuity. And everyone pays the same rate. But upper income payers are capped at what they receive in benefits so this is in no way regressive.

The tax break in SS Obama gave will only come back to bite those dependent on SS on the butt since there was no adjustment downward in benefits in the future. Typical Obama political ploy.


68 posted on 07/17/2011 11:55:25 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Hussein polled the New York Times Editorial Board so he ain't lying. /sarc
69 posted on 07/17/2011 12:55:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jim Scott

B.O. is a Marxist Liar.

99% of American Patriots want Obama Fired.


70 posted on 07/17/2011 2:52:54 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Keep in mind the 48% who pay no income tax figure that the “rich” (aka anyone who has more than an obama supporter) should have their burden increased. I am surprised that 55% are opposed based on the 48% figure.


71 posted on 07/17/2011 4:52:29 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: PapaBear3625
>> The survey question the Dems used was probably something like "To save the economy, would you accept a tax hike on the richest 2%?" or some such. <<

I'd be willing to bet the polling question(s) didn't even include the phrase "tax hike". It was probably more like, "would you support revenue increases in addition to spending cuts to reduce the deficit?"

Of course, Reagan proved that revenue increases come from CUTTING tax rates, but in the Dim vacuum, they think that if you increase tax rates, taxable activity remains the same, so revenue increases. But, reality says otherwise.

72 posted on 07/17/2011 5:54:12 PM PDT by mellow velo
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To: Recovering_Democrat
It all boils down to planned orchestrated crisis - one after another - until America is destroyed.

How long do we wait?

I'm waiting for Sarah to run. She's the only one who can do this - with our support. If she doesn't run, I see Revolution II on deck. No rino will work. It's up to We the People. . .

November 6, 2012 may be our last election. Work hard. . .

73 posted on 07/17/2011 9:29:44 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: arrogantsob

SS deductions are not truly taxes since they are contributions to provision for one’s future linked to an individual person.

Actually, they’re not. If someone pays into the SS system for their whole life and die before collecting any benefits and have no surviving dependants, their estate collects nothing from SS. SS is just another income tax.


74 posted on 07/18/2011 4:29:04 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It doesn’t matter that WE know the truth, and it doesn’t even matter that Fox reports it. What matters is the other idiots in this country who still believe the Liar and still watch the piss-bucket-carrying other networks.


75 posted on 07/18/2011 5:46:54 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: gunner03

Everybody who has a job has to pay payroll taxes, which is a flat tax on your income (i.e., an “income tax”) with no exemptions for low pay. The rate is the same (15.3%) for a guy who makes $3,000 a year as for the guy who makes $70,000 a year. The only ones who get a break are the ones who make more than $106,800 a year, because above that amount, no more payroll taxes are due. So it’s a flat tax that excludes most of the income of the very wealthy. Hmmm....

Not to mention that if your income is from dividends, interest, rents, royalties, or the like (think rich people again), your income is exempt from payroll taxes entirely.

No wonder Warren Buffett says he pays a lower effective tax rate than any of his office staff.

I’m not for penalizing the very rich, but I think they should pay taxes at the same rate as someone who works hard at his small business and makes $106,800 a year.


76 posted on 07/18/2011 8:23:23 AM PDT by juno67
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To: FrankR

That’s another one out of the park, Frank. Kudos.


77 posted on 07/18/2011 9:10:24 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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78 posted on 07/18/2011 9:11:12 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I’m sick and tired of listening to BO telling us that we need to make sacrifices for the good of the country when it’s him and all the politicians that need to make sacrifices for screwing up our country and putting us in the mess we’re in.


79 posted on 07/18/2011 12:18:28 PM PDT by coconut47
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Just watched CBS run a BULLSH*T poll saying Republicans and Tea Party want the Republicans to raise taxes and compromise. What a CROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


80 posted on 07/18/2011 3:54:54 PM PDT by JessieHelmsJr (Tree hugging liberals call it global warming. We call it summertime.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Some annuities are like that too. That is why I compared SS taxes to annuities.


81 posted on 07/18/2011 4:23:22 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

SS is based on income and high earners pay a lower rate with no guarantee of any return. It sure looks like a regressive income tax to me. By the way, where does this money go when paid in? It’s spent like any other income tax.


82 posted on 07/18/2011 7:31:51 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Like an issuer of an annuity the money stays with the issuer when the beneficiary dies unless he is willing to pay more to pass the remainder on.

High income earners pay the same rate up to a point but their returns are not in proportion to the payments. That is regressive. After the point of zero additional payment it might be considered progressive but not really since benefits aren’t increasing either. I guess it would be most accurate to say it is neither fish nor fowl.


83 posted on 07/18/2011 10:23:14 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: gunner03; Recovering_Democrat
"When does the tax war start?"

Right after the class war and before the race war.

Is it a good sign that The Anointed One was caught in two major lies in one week? The 80% who want their taxes raised and his mother didn't have health insurance. Nah, I guess not. He gets away with everything.

84 posted on 07/18/2011 11:29:18 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Not raising the debt ceiling is an automatic spending cut.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You know what's awesome about not paying taxes? Being poor! It's cool to know that if you lost your job you'd have about 1 week of money for food and other bills, or depending on which day of the month it hit, you might not even have that.
Feel free to earn $17k a year anytime you don't want to pay taxes. It's really fun!
85 posted on 07/21/2011 12:53:55 AM PDT by Firehawk70 (I wish my tax bill was $1 million, just think how rich I'd have to be for that to happen. Very.)
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To: Firehawk70

There a MILLIONS of “poor” people who get government paid housing, government paid food stamps, government paid utilities, government paid medical care, AND a monthly check from the government. Those “poor” people COST the government $60,000-$80,000 a year. And a LOT of them have been on the government dole for several generations.


86 posted on 07/21/2011 6:24:06 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Firehawk70

BTW, people who pay no taxes don’t give a damned if the rates are raised. If I had my way, you would get one vote for every $1000 you paid in income tax.


87 posted on 07/21/2011 7:14:56 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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