Posted on 07/16/2011 9:53:51 PM PDT by STARWISE
Um, you’re exactly right....and add to that people spouting off on online forums....adding to the mob mentality.....a very dangerous thing to do....
and I’m not talking about simply disagreeing with the jury. It’s the heartless and vile talk them and the jury system all together.
Well to the 12 jurors and 30-30 Freepers, NO it didn’t. Apparently only eyewitnesses would suffice.
YES!! And I know pro-abortion folks who are furious over this trial... I tell them they have no standing whatsoever! 3,000 caylees are murdered EVERY DAY so moms can go out partying again, and no peep out of them.
At least the conservatives who are outraged aren’t being hypocrites
Normally one might agree with your assessment. But our court systems are just as corrupt as our Government. There were all manner of mis-steps in this case from the get go and that by all involved in this case. Even so the evidence presented was sufficient to have brought in a guilty verdict, aside from the death penalty.
The problem was IMO the jury did not understand what they were there for or the ability to make a fair judgement of this case. Doubtful they even understand “critical thinking”. And the ‘evidence’ since that verdict would support this.
In murder cases jurys request various pieces of evidence while in deliberation. A photo, a document, whatever... but they do this recognizing the ‘seriousness of their task’. But not a single piece of evidence was requested by this jury....and that is beyond stunning.
Additionally the little time spent on delberation would attest to their time being spent on ‘persuading jurors’,.... and frankly discussion appears to be more about “who” killed Caley rather than on the accused, which was not their task. This was made very clear by the jurors who gave interviews to the press, whose statements certainly would give anyone pause on what did they really think their job was to begin with.
As for where Casey will go from here....I suspect to a mental health facility somewhere for the protection it will afford for the time being...and with that some counseling which may or not be helpful to her. For I think to her it’s all hand in hand with the role she must play to sustain herself. She hasn’t stepped out into the world on her own except for those 30 some odd days but has been in her parents home. Her attorneys replaced her parents roles for the time being...and I suspect if in a facility this will transfer to those who assist her there.
CAsey is in no way prepared to do life on her own...especially in light of the circumstances she has created for herself now. Further the lure of money and fame will likely keep her stay there shorter than most might have hopes for.
Imagine a woman who thought caring for her child was a burden and now she has the burden of public opinion whereever she may go. Her life will not play out in the end as she has hopes for....regardless if she is guilty or not...she has layed the stage and it will now play out according to public opinion.
I know jury duty is a thankless job, and our system relies on these people who give much. In this case, however, I wonder. The prosecution may not proved the case in the minds of THIS jury, but with all the circumstantial and other evidence and the behavioral chronology .. the thought they could actually deliberate that short a time and come up with NO connection to Caylee’s absence and death is just really hard to swallow.
Listen to the logic of this juror.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW_J9kpj3BQ
She would’ve preferred a video-taped or witnessed murder or accident .. something easy .. maybe a bottle of chloroform or roll of duct tape in Casey’s hands video-taped .. and even with ALL the evidence of the tape and garbage bags from the house on Caylee, the absolute smell of death from the police dog, the partying, no reporting of her missing, etc. etc. .. she still could not form an opinion as to a reasonable scenario for what happened to that innocent baby, who was the direct responsibility of Casey, and who was naturally completely directly involved in her own child’s whereabouts, health and wellbeing.
Even though Casey partied non-stop during the month little Caylee was known BY HER to be missing, and UNreported, she can still say there was no evidence of Casey being neglectful. WHAT????
Shockingly, this juror still doesn’t know with certainty that she didn’t do it, yet agreed to sign off with the rest that she was only guilty of doing what is her forte: lying. Unbelievable.
Anatomy of a successful murder in the hot (especially Florida) summer:
neglect or drug to the point of death, or directly murder someone, secret the body away in garbage bags and duct taped, allow time to go by and the body, flesh, bones to decompose and gradually get eaten and moved by animals, rot in a stinking swamp for months in the hot FL sun and heat, then state different lies about her whereabouts for months, blatantly lie repeatedly to the police .. and without traceable evidence from organs or proof to the direct link to cause of death, plant the idea that the defendant was molested or abused as a child and that’s why she lies and behaves abhorrently, that there was a pool accident and her father was involved, bring in fringy expert psychological witnesses, multiple fantasy scenarios for the jury .. then
bingo:
the monster .. the mother or father, whomever it is .. can be found completely disconnected to the absence and ultimate death of their own child.
I agree about the jury. They just wanted to get outta there as fast as possible. They did not want to consider a circumstantial case at all. If they HAD wanted to put some work into pouring over the ample evidence maybe they could have arrived at a guilty verdict on at least one of the top 3 charges. I think Caylee must be with Jesus right now asking “Where is mommy? Doesn’t she want me anymore?” what do you say to that?
Steve Helling from People Magazine tweets:
Okay, I have confirmed that #caseyanthony is still earthbound. No flights.
1 hour ago
No...Caley is not worried about her mother or asking questions. I’m certain she is quite happy with the Lord and with her new environment. Her “mind” and “Heart” surely are protected and safe with him from such thoughts or remeberances.
Guilty people who get acquittals tend to become arrogant and careless because they "got away with it." Since they're under the delusion that they can get away with anything, they tend to be convicted of another crime.
My only hope is that her next stint in jail won’t be the result of her killing another child.
Whose? You don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to shun someone. If she has another kid, I'd really wonder about the father/sperm donor.
Video of Casey leaving jail with attorney....keeping in mind the media worked this out to cover her release with the prison. So she’s on stage yet again. Clearly hear the crowd as well as she leaves.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/?watchId=4563ab0e-f731-4a7f-818e-49d5aa90b90c
thanks, i watched that and I could hear people yelling CAYLEE, caylee. I notice that Headline News is online in the middle of the night right now with a taped Nancy Grace special where they are going over the whole Casey trial thing again, probably because they know there are a LOT of people up in the middle of the night waiting to see where Tot Mom is going to end up. Im getting a sick feeling in my stomach this morning.
When we have possible tampering; definite police misconduct; huge holes in the evidence caused by the police; giggling prosecutors; and evidence which was allowed to degrade, seemingly on purpose; it probably doesn't take a lot for a jury to decide that the corruption outweighs the evidence since the benefit of the doubt goes to the defendant.
You wrote: In murder cases jurys request various pieces of evidence while in deliberation. A photo, a document, whatever... but they do this recognizing the ‘seriousness of their task’. But not a single piece of evidence was requested by this jury....and that is beyond stunning.
You're right. I think the jury was able to easily discard a lot of the evidence. Some of it was tainted, some of it was missing, and in the end, I think they decided that they could not trust the state.
The prosecutor hurt the case. The prosecutor was seen smiling and giggling during closing arguments, and that had to have made a mark on the jury. Here is an article which mentions it.
Then there was the incident during Baez's closing arguments, in which he angrily referred to Ashton as "this laughing guy" when he observed him chuckling behind his hand in full view of the jury.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hFYFNHyjxhnP1FtQyeN1skDE-A6g?docId=f5e83a9d593d4a6c8072876b2056bb1c
That was the sort of thing which the jury saw. The prosecutor, who never tried to explain why in the world the police seemed almost violently averse to finding that baby's body, thought that something was hysterically funny during a baby's murder trial.
If you had to sit there like the prosecutor did and listen to some greaseball call you a liar, that your evidence is fantasy forensics, etc etc, you might make some faces too, in lieu of getting up and clobbering the sob.
Killer Tot Mom has now flown from Florida to Ohio:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N145GM
You’re assuming that she has the same thought processes that a normal, rational person would have. I suggest history shows she doesn’t.
Ashton said to Greta in an interview that 5 weeks before they went to trial is when George learned he had molested his daughter. He also said that George & Cindy weren’t always cooperative with the prosecution but after the false accusation against George, they were more cooperative.
If she has even minimal intelligence, she’ll move overseas (at least once all her legal issues are settled). There’s plenty of place on this planet to go where no one has heard of this trial.
Ask yourself; wouldn’t you?
Perhaps Europe, or perhaps if she could finagle a TEFL certificate, SE Asia or China (not Japan....they check things out like this, and they’re sticklers)and become an English teacher. If you work it right, you can live pretty good.
Who knows?
Their names (the jury) will leak out soon enough. If they worked before this trial, everyone who worked with them knows who they are and that silence may very well have already been broken but has not been verified.
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