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Was 70 mph a bad idea?
The Northern Virginia Daily ^ | July 20, 2011 | Preston Knight

Posted on 07/20/2011 7:47:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WOODSTOCK -- The last few days have been busy for Shenandoah County emergency personnel on Interstate 81.

Or, as some people may feel, it's been like old times.

Four notable crashes in a 10-mile stretch since Thursday afternoon -- there were two that day, one on Friday and a tractor-trailer overturned Tuesday morning -- may have been the most in such a short period of time since the Virginia Department of Transportation raised the posted speed limit throughout most of the jurisdiction to 70 mph last the fall. Official crash data, though, is not yet available for the past few months, although for all of 2010, there were 29 fewer crashes in the county than a year earlier, according to the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles.

The DMV does not track road-specific crash data.

However, speed is not necessarily always the culprit. On Friday and Tuesday, for example, it appeared to be driver fatigue, said Sgt. F.L. "Les" Tyler, a state police spokesman. Felton L. Joseph, 59, of Pearland, Texas, was charged with reckless driving on Tuesday after overturning his tractor-trailer hauling tea on the right shoulder at southbound mile marker 284. There were no injuries.

Based on what local officials have observed, after roughly nine months with the new speed limit, nobody appears to have found a reason yet to change their original impression on 70 mph.

"I don't think there is any good evidence that the interstate is more dangerous now than it was before or even that actual speeds have increased at all," said Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Woodstock, who favored the move. "VDOT made the determination about which areas could safely support the speed limit increase, and I think we should wait and see additional data from them before we jump to any conclusions."

Shenandoah County Fire Chief Gary Yew said he has always thought the increase was a mistake. He is concerned about public safety, particularly in peak travel times, such as the current summer vacation period.

"The more serious crashes over the years, they certainly have been attributed to speed," Yew said. "I can't help but think it compounds our problems."

VDOT spokeswoman Sandy Myers said her agency is waiting to collect data for a three-year period before reviewing the effectiveness of the speed limit change. She echoes Gilbert in stating that it's too early to make any conclusions.

The data, when available, may not matter for some people. William Pence, president of Appalachian Freight Carriers in Edinburg, said 65 mph is fast enough for truckers, so the hike to 70 mph did not sit well with him. Drivers in his company, though, are directed to set their speed at 67 mph, which conserves fuel.

"And that's fast enough for trucks," Pence said.

He said too many crashes involve truck drivers speeding and following too closely, and that was before they were granted the opportunity to travel faster.

"Any rear-end collision involving our drivers," Pence said, "they're outta here."

The Board of Supervisors passed a resolution opposing the increase last year. District 1 representative Dick Neese said his opinion hasn't changed and his concern for I-81 is so great that whenever he must make a Harrisonburg-to-Strasburg trip, he takes U.S. 11.

"I got stopped in [a crash backup] one time," Neese said. "I said there's no way I'm going to let this happen again."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 70mph; accidents; crashes; i81; speedlimit; truckers; vdot
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To: Man from Oz

Good to hear that. My parents are in PA, so when I’d go home or return from leave, it was 1,100 miles or so across I-70. On my return trips, I always seemed to hit KS at about 11:00 or 12:00 at night. I was a young hot-shot lieutenant and had a ‘92 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX Turbo. I’d push upwards of 90 or so if the road was wide open, and never got a ticket.


61 posted on 07/20/2011 9:24:20 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Oh, yeah!!! I like those too!


62 posted on 07/20/2011 9:26:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: PapaBear3625
People tend to travel at what they consider a safe speed,

BINGO!!

And unless you are teenage male the speed at which you choose to travel is likely to be a safe one.

63 posted on 07/20/2011 9:29:36 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A few years ago, there was a blanket 70mph pretty much over
all the rural areas of state highways. Many of those have been reduced since then to a more logical 60mph. I think due to the long time period at 55mph - many (newer) officials didn’t realize that not all highways are for 70mph.


64 posted on 07/20/2011 9:29:37 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: wolfman23601

“What a waste of time, money, and energy that was.”

Yeah, but you got to contribute some feed calories to the Judicial/LEO industrial monster.


65 posted on 07/20/2011 9:33:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: msrngtp2002

“Even counted two cars with people having sex!”

I was nowhere near that area.


66 posted on 07/20/2011 9:35:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That stretch 81 between 66 and Woodstock scares the crap out of me. Granted, I only visit once a year so maybe you get used to the volume of trucks at some point. But it just seems like wall to wall trucks and two lanes in each direction is dangerous enough at 65mph.


67 posted on 07/20/2011 9:37:27 AM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My car is a “tool” that provides me the opportunity to move from one spot to another.

If you don’t how to use your tools correctly, please do not use them until you are competent.


68 posted on 07/20/2011 9:42:00 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: Man from Oz
Coming back from Vegas to L.A. I set the Cruise Control on my 2011 V-6 305 HP Mustang to 75 MPH. Hit a little traffic, but I still got 34.95 MPG.

I like to drive 75, with apologies to Sammy Hagar.

69 posted on 07/20/2011 9:45:35 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Would you rather live in Obamaville or Palintown?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes - it should have been 80.


70 posted on 07/20/2011 9:46:22 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: rockrr

I remember a Keeper of the Speed doing that in Kansas. She was proudly humming along in her state owned car with a teachers union bumper sticker doing an easy 5 under next to a semi fully loaded and maxed out in speed. I geve her a courtesy blink of the lights...nothing. Another blink 2-3 minutes later. In mortal fear, she shot past the truck and I passed. As I saw her reaching for her phone to call the police on me, I slowed down so she could read my license plate. Surprise, nothing happened.


71 posted on 07/20/2011 9:48:55 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I hope you kept it down to ‘reasonable’. I once drove a 327/350hp Nova SS. It had the straight line stability of a slowing top. Also couldn’t corner worth a damn. A few years later I drove a Datsun 240Z. While not as quick in a straight line quarter mile, you could drive 100mph all afternoon feeling very secure.


72 posted on 07/20/2011 9:49:27 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
"Coming back from Vegas to L.A. I set the Cruise Control on my 2011 V-6 305 HP Mustang to 75 MPH. Hit a little traffic, but I still got 34.95 MPG."

Yeah, well it is downhill... ;-)

73 posted on 07/20/2011 9:49:29 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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What causes unsafe conditions is vehicles driving DIFFERENT speeds. As long as everyone is driving about the same speed, traffic flows smoothly and safely. It really doesn’t matter what the speed is, so long as everybody goes about that speed. Speed limits should be set to get the maximum level of compliance and uniformity in speed.

It frustrates me to no end that Illinois specifically sets different speed limits for cars and trucks. Could there be a better formula for an unsafe roadway? Stupid.


74 posted on 07/20/2011 9:50:34 AM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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To: Vigilanteman

>>There is a huge Wal-Mart distribution center right by an interchange between Harrisonburg and Stanton with its own railyard.

There was talk that some of the truck traffic would diminish once the raillink was completed. I haven’t noticed it happening. Have you? <<

Remember that if you’ve got a truck brought it. When train traffic increases so does truck traffic. When the economy slows down there’s less trucks on the highway and vice versa. WalMarts, Safeway, Foodstuff, Sears, McDonalds or your local gas station doesn’t get stocked by air freighters.


75 posted on 07/20/2011 9:52:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: wolfman23601
Yeah, I got a Reckless for doing 80 on a 65. 80 mph is reckless in VA no matter what the spped limit or road conditions. Reckless is also a misdemeanor than can result in jail time. I had to hire a lawyer, take a day off of work, drive to Fredricksburg, take initiative to take a safe driver class, and incur the stress of possibly losing my job (requires a security clearance) over speeding just so the judge could reduce the charge to simple speeding at 79 mph. What a waste of time, money, and energy that was.

You must not have gotten the right trooper - the one who pulled us at 82 knocked it down to 79 right there 'just in case' his/our instruments were off by a tad.

76 posted on 07/20/2011 9:54:06 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: cyclotic

You can’t courtesy flash lights anymore here in the seattle area - that’s a hate crime ;-)


77 posted on 07/20/2011 9:55:12 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Notary Sojac

>>moving more freight traffic off the highways and onto the freight railroads, I think it would be well worth the effort.<<

Do you have any idea how it get to the trains and/or from the trains? By TRUCK, not helicopter or ship or taxi.


78 posted on 07/20/2011 9:56:23 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: rockrr

Than I guess my headlights are full of hate. I rarely do that but it’s better than a friend of mine who once bumper tapped someone for holding up a few hundred cars.


79 posted on 07/20/2011 9:56:48 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

You need to include the definition of LTL: less than truck load, weight or bulk size. West of the Mississippi river we can pull 53 foot trailers, I imagine east of the river is still stuck with 48 footers.


80 posted on 07/20/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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