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More than 80 killed at youth camp - Police (Norway)
http://www.vg.no/ ^ | 22/7 2011

Posted on 07/22/2011 7:09:28 PM PDT by Eurotwit

Oslo Police having a press conference now.

Saying at least 80 kids have been massacred.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: breivik; massacre; norway; oslo
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To: RC one

Coming soon to a school near you.


51 posted on 07/22/2011 7:27:35 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Eurotwit

Normally, for those kind of numbers you need gasoline.


52 posted on 07/22/2011 7:27:48 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep.

Cue the UN Global Small Arms Treaty in 3, 2, 1......


53 posted on 07/22/2011 7:28:14 PM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: RC one

Is this Norwegian perp connected to Muslim terrorists? Or is he a homegrown?


54 posted on 07/22/2011 7:28:21 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: gaijin

It felt like more than 40 at the time.


55 posted on 07/22/2011 7:28:21 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Yaelle

The news said many dived into the quite cold waters to escape.


56 posted on 07/22/2011 7:28:41 PM PDT by xp38
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

You sir have hit the nail on the head.


57 posted on 07/22/2011 7:28:49 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: piytar

It seems like a conservative who is sceptical about islam and multiculturalism.

He would fit in here at freerepublic.

I read many of his posts. He seemed smart, and I agreed with most of it. Not a hint of any aggression or murderous intent.

He had ambitions of starting a conservative print media as he didn’t like the socialist bias of the msn.

Just crazy.


58 posted on 07/22/2011 7:29:27 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: gaijin

Only 12? WTF_K!


59 posted on 07/22/2011 7:29:45 PM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: SpaceBar

87 — incredible. This is big enough that it will be given a name and will be remembered and marked for years to come.


60 posted on 07/22/2011 7:29:48 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yaelle

I just posted a thread that asserts that this was an organized terrorist act executed to weaken the European resolve- similar to what we saw in span a few years ago.


61 posted on 07/22/2011 7:30:32 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Eurotwit

Prayers up for all injured and the families of the murdered.

What made this guy do this? Was he part of something Islamist?


62 posted on 07/22/2011 7:30:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Eurotwit

To add to the mix:

Alleged Oslo Terrorists Claim Responsibility Via Jihadi Forums, YouTube
fast and company ^

Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 9:28:03 PM by RC one

A terrorists group has claimed responsibility for today’s attacks in Oslo, Norway—which included the bombing of the Prime Minister’s office and a massacre at a children’s day camp by a gunman dressed as a police officer—using social media.

An obscure group called Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (Assistants of the Global Jihad) posted a message on an Islamist bulletin board called Smukh and may have uploaded a video to YouTube several days ago predicting the attack, in which at least seven people were killed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2752673/posts


63 posted on 07/22/2011 7:31:04 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Eurotwit
My deepest heartfelt empathy and sympathy for you and your countrymen, Eurotwit. I do know God is not responsible for these deaths, it was evils' work. May the perp suffer unspeakable horror for each life he has taken.
64 posted on 07/22/2011 7:31:16 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Eurotwit
A very good write up from 1 min ago here
65 posted on 07/22/2011 7:31:44 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

A VERY tiny island, with 700 kids on it at the time.


66 posted on 07/22/2011 7:32:39 PM PDT by Atlantic Friend
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To: eastforker

Apparently the guy was dressed as a cop.
Reports say there was automatic gunfire.


67 posted on 07/22/2011 7:32:51 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: piytar

We don’t know. We have a suspect who looks like he came from Nordic central casting. We also have a lengthy claim of responsibility from an AQ in Iraq leader named Abu Suleiman Al-Nasser on a highly secure jihadist website.


68 posted on 07/22/2011 7:32:57 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Charlespg

“No hell way this was the work of just oneguy”

One guy with enough time, money and planning (and a major screw loose), yeah, it could be done.

But I want to see how this develops. A lot of fishy things on other threads...


69 posted on 07/22/2011 7:33:55 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: Eurotwit

“It seems like a conservative who is sceptical about islam and multiculturalism.

He would fit in here at freerepublic.

I read many of his posts. He seemed smart, and I agreed with most of it. Not a hint of any aggression or murderous intent.

He had ambitions of starting a conservative print media as he didn’t like the socialist bias of the msn.

Just crazy.”

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I can’t imagine anyone with those opinions would want all those innocents dead. It makes no sense.


70 posted on 07/22/2011 7:34:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Eurotwit

What kind of website was he posting on?


71 posted on 07/22/2011 7:34:30 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Eurotwit

What kind of website was he posting on?


72 posted on 07/22/2011 7:34:40 PM PDT by xp38
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Just a thought......How many of the teens were the sons and daughters of the ruling class in Norway?
I have gathered from news reports that the PM was scheduled to give a speech to the group. These kids were not your average summer camper.


73 posted on 07/22/2011 7:35:16 PM PDT by keypro (Dubyateaeff)
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To: Eurotwit

Silly to say this but remember:

Water stops bullets MUCH better than people realize:

Most bullet will stop after just 5 feet, even if fired directly down into water. At an oblique angle maybe 90% of them will splatter, or simply richocet off the surface.

As long as they don’t hit you in the head when you come up for air, mostly you’re OK.

I think for most swimming away would have provided good protection.


74 posted on 07/22/2011 7:35:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Eurotwit
Just curious, but what is Norway's stance on the UN Small Arms Treaty? Ratified/refused/pending?

Holder and the Obama DOJ were likely involved in illegal activities running guns to Mexico and Latin America in what appears to be an effort to push up statistics on firearms traceable to US sources in an effort to push the treaty through in the US.

It seems odd that this event occurred, but especially at a time when that treaty is being pushed. I am deeply suspicious of tragic/terrorist events which occur with optimal timing for political advantage, especially by those who would disarm the innocent.

75 posted on 07/22/2011 7:35:52 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Eurotwit

My God. Prayers for the victims and their families.


76 posted on 07/22/2011 7:35:53 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: SuzyQue
may have uploaded a video to YouTube several days ago predicting the attack

That's the smoking gun right there.

77 posted on 07/22/2011 7:36:02 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Eurotwit
Flipped out. Frustrations with the evil perpetrated by one's government. That is my interpretation. Democracy as practiced today, requires a lot of tolerance for evil. Some ain't got it (the tolerance.) Such as the evil perpetrated by Dodd and Frank, to use a trivial example. Or Ted Kennedy over the years. Some boil over, while the rest of us sit back and tolerate it helplessly, because what else are we to do. But the evil so often pointed out on these very pages is real, and Robert Bork was right when he wrote Slouching Toward Gomorrah. This is not to excuse the perpetrator, but an attempt to comprehend the underlying reasons. He achieved nothing, and the message he was hoping to send will be lost. Are there better ways to send the same message? If there are it doesn't get through, either.
78 posted on 07/22/2011 7:36:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: LyinLibs

Yeah the UN is already working on their treaty. This will probably propel it.

How terribly misguided.


79 posted on 07/22/2011 7:36:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RC one
I don't think the terrorist organizations are that insane....this will be a backlash of epic proportions. No one believes that children should be massacred like that.

It was a few incidences like this in smaller numbers that turned Iraq against al-Qaida.

80 posted on 07/22/2011 7:36:42 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: mylife
Yes sir, that's my understanding,Sounds like a well planned attack. People in general do not understand or can not conceive the resolve of a madman. most of them are considered to be a genius.
81 posted on 07/22/2011 7:36:42 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Eurotwit
The perp had three legal guns....

THIS will change Norway for a long time....

Probably so.

Setting aside the monstrosity of it for second.....what a freaking idiot. As a political act, this was monumentally stupid.

82 posted on 07/22/2011 7:37:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Eurotwit

Dear Lord...

Unbelievable.


83 posted on 07/22/2011 7:37:48 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Dallas59
Tragic...But we’ll all be under suspect now.

The Tea Party needs to take a page out of the Wizard of IS handbook of inverting meaning. Call the detractors Right-O-phobics. Tell them Tea Party folk are the party of peace. The press is part of a vast left wing conspiracy. Ya know, these claims may actually have some truth behind them.

84 posted on 07/22/2011 7:37:57 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Charlespg

I believe it could of been one guy....he called all these kids to him so many came and felt it safe because he was masqurading as a policeman....then he pulled out the weapon’S, and more than one I read.

Golly like lambs to the slaughter. Terrible...can’t imagine the parents and to think so many kids saw this. Just awful!


85 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: Yaelle

Norwegian friend seems to think he was targeting the Labour Party because he believes their policies are destroying Norway. The children he killed were part of a Labour Party youth camp. A very sick individual.


86 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:05 PM PDT by NikkiB
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The push for global gun control begins now.

I was waiting for an incident in the US or Mexico to give 0bama an excuse to move, but this should be enough to get the UN drive going. And we know the UN rules the leftist world.

87 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:09 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yes, agreed.


88 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:19 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: winodog
"When do they start the war on Jesus?"

"They" (whoever "they" are) just did Matthew 25-40.

And unlike Allah aka Azaezel, the God of the Bible IS God. This won't go unanswered, by man or (IMHO) God...

89 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:33 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Yaelle

No it doesn’t. It’s obviously a mad man.

I am still in shock.

I cannot imagine the loss. Perhaps as much as a 100 kids killed.

Honestly, I have had a drink. I also think of how conservatives sceptical towards islam will fare now?

Not well...

Then again, the perp killed as many tonight as have been assault raped in the last five years.


90 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:53 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Yardstick

You write: I wonder what this does to Norway’s gun laws. They had been fairly permissive.

Maybe you should bone up on something before you make a statement that makes it obvious you are clueless:

Ownership

To own a gun in Norway, one must document a use for the gun. By far, the most common grounds for civilian ownership are hunting and sports shooting, in that order. Other needs can include special guard duties or self defense, but the first is rare and the second is practically never accepted as a reason for gun ownership.

Ownership is regulated and responsibility for issuing a gun ownership license is given to the police authority in the applicant’s district.

Rifle and shotgun ownership permission can be given to “sober and responsible” persons 18 years or older. The applicant for the permission must document a need for the weapon.

For handguns, the lowest ownership age is 21 with no exceptions allowed. For inherited weapons, it is up to the local police chief to make a decision based on the individual facts of the case.

An applicant must have a clean police record in order to obtain an ownership license.


91 posted on 07/22/2011 7:39:07 PM PDT by macquire
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To: Eurotwit

I don’t believe for one minute it was a ‘tall, blond’ as ‘reportedly’ told.

Earlier reporting said it ‘should’ be one..


92 posted on 07/22/2011 7:39:46 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Eurotwit

The news reports mnay of the kids rushed to the water to swim away and he unloaded on them in the water. I suspect we’ll hear the weapon he used soon enough...and there was more than one he used.


93 posted on 07/22/2011 7:40:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: Eurotwit

“I have read his posts. He was intelligent.”

Can you provide some insight as to motive?


94 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:12 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: gaijin

The water is cold, gaijin. Hypothermia is an even greater problem for kids than adults because of the relatively small volume to surface area ratio as well.


95 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: xp38

JihadWatch and Gates of Vienna, apparently.


96 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:31 PM PDT by Atlantic Friend
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To: gaijin
That...would be the biggest gun massacre in history, I believe.

Can this be true?


There were larger groups of Jews and Poles murdered by NKVD shooting and burying them in the Katyn forest in Russia (over 20,000) and Muslim men and boys murdered in Srebrenica (about 8000 during July, 1995). Or are you putting all sorts of qualifiers on it? The biggest single massacre of a single group of people by guns within a single day by X number of perpetrators for Y reasons.
97 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:40 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Yaelle

They were on an island.

Some tried to swim away, killer shot em, like shooting fish in a barrel.

This incident is straight out of a Muslim handbook, despite it ‘reportedly’ being a ‘tall, blonde’.


98 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:59 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: eastforker

He was taken to the island on a ferry.
The people that took him said they thought everything was in order.


99 posted on 07/22/2011 7:42:13 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Eurotwit

Do you think there is going to be backlash against FrP and Siv Jensen? My friend think there might. I should hope not. She’s a great lady and I thought FrP’s popularity was on the rise.


100 posted on 07/22/2011 7:42:23 PM PDT by NikkiB
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