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Death Toll Rises to 91 in Norway
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Posted on 07/23/2011 1:39:46 AM PDT by quesney

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To: quesney

A true Christian wouldn’t have done this...the left is dreaming...


161 posted on 07/23/2011 5:38:50 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: quesney
While the leftist media drum beat will be oh so loud we cannot allow them to frame this with their lies.

First FACT: If this scum did not have any mudslime ties, even though 2 Is_slime groups have declared responsibility, there is no way he can ever be described honestly as a Christian. No true, real, Christian in the year 2011 is going to do this hiding behind Christianity.

In our local Pravda paper, almost 1/4 of the front page and half of A2 were devoted to telling the reader that Is_slime was not involved. Only the very last small paragraph made mention of 2 Is-slime groups claiming responsibility.

162 posted on 07/23/2011 5:38:54 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: MestaMachine; moshiach

‘Warning’!!!!....not for squimish....

Mesta...you might find this interesting.

Aerial Photo of shooter standing with rifle shooting....kids on the ground....

http://i53.tinypic.com/23r263t.jpg


163 posted on 07/23/2011 5:39:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: quesney

Why do I smell a “Put-Up” Job?


164 posted on 07/23/2011 5:44:07 AM PDT by Mr. C (Take Back America!)
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To: Prolixus

Nothing, which this guy did was Christ-like. In fact his actions were anti-Christ. Who could call him a Christian?


165 posted on 07/23/2011 5:44:26 AM PDT by old school
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To: Gondring

Someone call James Bond! It's Maxmillian Largo from Never Say Never Again.

Prayers up for the victims and families...and the rest of Europe as this will encourage the dhimmitude-proponents.

166 posted on 07/23/2011 5:44:33 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: quesney
identified as a Christian fundamentalist with right-wing connections

There's nothing Christian, fundamentalist or otherwise, about going into some camp and killing a bunch of people.

But it is Islamic doctrine.

ML/NJ

167 posted on 07/23/2011 5:46:14 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
A Facebook page matching his name and the photo given out by the police was set up just a few days ago. It listed his religion as Christian, politics as conservative. It said he enjoys hunting, the video games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and books including Machiavelli’s “The Prince” and George Orwell’s “1984.”

Very suspicious. They guy's a psychopath, but could very well be trying to frame Christian Conservatives for whatever liberal lunacy was running through his sick mind.

168 posted on 07/23/2011 5:46:37 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SubMareener

Let me guess: No true Scotsman?

sorry but if that’s how he identifies himself, then it’s totally fair for the media to describe him the same way, and we should save our outrage for real media distortions.

Yes it sucks that this twisted piece of human garbage uses the same label to identify himself as we do, but you can take comfort in Niven’s Law: “No cause is so noble that it won’t attract fuggheads.”


169 posted on 07/23/2011 5:47:27 AM PDT by Quis Custodiet (.)
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To: quesney
You're right.

We need to build a Christian church at the site of the bombing.

And hold diversity and sensitivity training for European officials to see how their actions made Christians feel excluded, that they felt they had to lash out like this to get attention.

Hint: why does the New York Slimes masturbate to completion while autofellating over the chance to proclaim this guy a "Christian" "right winger" and therefore evil but get away with running a flattering piece on William Ayers, whose group tried to do the same thing; and why do they get away with neglecting to disclose the MUSLIM connections of the authors of other killings...?

I wonder how the press would react if the Christians went militant? Would the press's bigotry or their cowardice win out?

Cheers!

170 posted on 07/23/2011 5:49:48 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Gondring
A Facebook page matching his name and the photo given out by the police was set up just a few days ago. It listed his religion as Christian, politics as conservative.

A couple of possibiities...
a. Breivik might have been trying to create maximum confusion and diversion from the "real" motive
b. many people who label themselves "Christian" wrongly think that "Christian" is a kind of ethnic category.

And as others have noted, in Europe, the descriptions "conservative" and "right-wing" are often applied to neo-nazis.
This shows the victory of leftist propagandists in persuading the European public that Hitler and the Nazis were "right-wing" - when in fact the truth is just the opposite.

In America the Left has been less successful with this propaganda. The word "conservatism" in America, thanks to Ronald Reagan, is widely understood to mean Constitutional traditionalism - which is its true meaning.

171 posted on 07/23/2011 5:52:13 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: quesney
Near as I can tell there are no true "conservative" party in Norway. At least according to what we'd term conservative or right-wing.

It's all extreme Left (Socialist) or centrist. Their Conservative Party is listed as "liberal conservatism".

I got the following chart from Wikipedia. The links don't work.

English party name Norwegian party name Associated ideology Current leader International affiliation Representation
Parliament County councils
Labour Party Det norske Arbeiderparti (bokmål)
Det norske Arbeidarparti (nynorsk)
Social democracy Jens Stoltenberg Socialist International 64 236
Progress Party Fremskrittspartiet (bokmål)
Framstegspartiet (nynorsk)
Populism,[1] Conservative liberalism[2] Siv Jensen none 41 141
Conservative Party Høyre (bokmål)
Høgre (nynorsk)
Liberal conservatism Erna Solberg International Democrat Union 30 120
Socialist Left Party Sosialistisk Venstreparti Democratic Socialism Kristin Halvorsen Nordic Green Left Alliance 11 46
Centre Party Senterpartiet Agrarianism, Centrism Liv Signe Navarsete none 11 73
Christian Democratic Party Kristelig Folkeparti (bokmål)
Kristeleg Folkeparti (nynorsk)
Christian democracy Knut Arild Hareide Centrist Democrat International 10 54
Liberal Party Venstre Liberalism, Social liberalism Trine Skei Grande Liberal International 2 37

172 posted on 07/23/2011 5:56:07 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Land of the free my @ss)
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To: caww

I’m told this guy’s twitter account had nearly 500 followers, many from jihadi forums AND government services as well, even though his account was a couple of years old and he had only posted ONE public tweet three days ago.
Nothing about this adds up.
If you read or heard any of loughner’s rants before he pulled his “sudden jihad”, anyone who knows islam could have told you exctly what he walking about and the context.
This guy has the same kind of “interests” that loughner did. Trancing out into some different plane, (jihad.) “Falling” into music.
loughner doesn’t want to take drugs in jail because there is nothing wrong with him AS A MUSLIM. He is an islamic believer and what he did is justified. He is acting for all the world, exactly like the muslim detainees at Gitmo.


173 posted on 07/23/2011 5:57:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: quesney

I think European socialists have imposed their wicked agenda on the populace so long and given no outlet for legitimate protest, that the future may very well be a violent reaction from people who hate socialists and the barbarian hordes they have brought to Europe’s shores. Attila the Huns may be in the making all across Europe.


174 posted on 07/23/2011 5:58:17 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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exctly what he walking about

exactly what he was talking about.

Baby “fixed” the keyboard.


175 posted on 07/23/2011 6:01:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: quesney

The perp called himself a “Conservative Nationalist” in this source:

Verdens Gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdens_Gang
(lit.: The way of the world or The course of the world), generally known as VG, is a Norwegian tabloid newspaper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

“Breivik studied at the Oslo Commerce School, and is described by newspaper Verdens Gang as considering himself a conservative nationalist.[3] He is also a former member of the Progress Party (FrP) and its youth wing FpU.”


176 posted on 07/23/2011 6:02:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Ulysse

Obama’s socialism is anti-Christianity. When it fully matures into communism, the state become the god. Socialism is standing violation of several of the Ten Commandments. No, your misguided theory that Obama is advancing Christian culture is exactly opposite the truth.


177 posted on 07/23/2011 6:05:50 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: MestaMachine
There was a red-headed white American contractor at my workplace about 10 years ago;he had converted to islam while in prison.Surprise!

Not the person you wanted around anyplace with disaster potential'he and his fellows were quietly transferred out.

178 posted on 07/23/2011 6:06:12 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: cripplecreek
This bears repeating:

"The european right isn’t the same as the American right by a long shot."

179 posted on 07/23/2011 6:07:25 AM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

It’s frightening that the leftist, state-run propaganda machine is as tenacious and vicious as it is.

My initial reaction to reading that it was a “right-winger” was that this is probably a lie, perpetrated by the left, that either it was a leftist pretending to be a right-winger, or it was a jihadist that the media is portraying as a right-winger, or that it was just another nutcase that the state-run media is trying to portray as a Christian/conservative/right-winger.

Also, aside from the horrible evil of attacking children, is no one else a bit surprised that these kids were at a “youth camp” run by the Labor Party (hardcore socialists)? Does that not smack of “Hitler’s youth?” Maybe this is common and every political party has “youth camps,” but I’ve never heard of it.


180 posted on 07/23/2011 6:08:01 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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