Skip to comments.Death Toll Rises to 91 in Norway
Posted on 07/23/2011 1:39:46 AM PDT by quesney
The Norwegian police on Saturday charged a 32-year-old man, whom they identified as a Christian fundamentalist with right-wing connections, over the bombing of a government center here and a shooting attack on a nearby island that together left at least 91 people dead. Multimedia
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SCANPIX, via Associated Press Deadly explosions shattered windows on Friday at the government headquarters in Oslo, which includes the prime ministers office. A spokeswoman for Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said he was safe. More Photos » The police said they did not know if the man, identified in the Norwegian press as Anders Behring Breivik, was part of a larger conspiracy. He is being questioned under the countrys terrorism laws and is cooperating with the investigation, they said.
We are not sure whether he was alone or had help, a police official, Roger Andresen, said at a televised press conference, adding: What we know is that he is right-wing and a Christian fundamentalist. So far Mr. Breivik has not been linked to any anti-jihadist groups, he said.
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>>This is one of our guys, Please accept it.!<<
One of OUR guys? Speak for yourself. You’re speaking like a troll.
What is your agenda?
no-to-illegals, I believe you are correct that the DC gun ban was thrown out and that 2nd amendment rights trump local gun control laws was upheld by only a 5 to 4 ruling in the Supreme Court. As you alluded to, 4 of the justices already voted against the 2nd amendment. Yes, we may only be one justice away from tyranny on many levels.
If any UN gun control treaty were ever to become ratified by the U.S. Senate (that requires 2/3 of the Senate to ratify any treaty) and we had this current makeup of Supreme Court Justices, there is a decent chance the treaty and our obligations to it would be thrown out as unconstitutional dues to the treaty's trumping the 2nd amendment of the U.S. Constitution and possibly other constitutional articles/sections or amendments.
If you were to replace any of the 4 conservative justices or justice Kennedy with an Obama appointee, then this treaty would likely be upheld as the law of the land should it ever become ratified by the Senate. Of course, a Supreme Court with 5 liberal/marxist justices would not need a UN treaty to gut or eliminate our 2nd amendment, they would do that on their own with the next gun rights case to reach them.
I am just reading and collecting information.
I have not formed a conclusion about what this murderer is all about or what his motives were, but unless he was deranged (and, in the psychiatric sense, I have not yet seen evidence of that), what I can conclude with confidence is that he was NOT a Christian in the Biblical sense, let alone a fundamentalist Christian.
MSM is not interested in this "minor" incidental, except to make sure it is splashed prominently in every article published about him.
Aside from the new FB page, the only other evidence I have seen is this:
I myself am a Protestant and baptized / confirmed to me by my own free will when I was 15
I tend to agree more with the opinion of caww, in post 368:
But I am unconvinced he is a Christian, rather he purposed using the church as an ally for political gain.
Until there is more information available about his "christian" self-identification, i.e., 1) what were his beliefs about Jesus; 2)where did he attend church, 3) how often, 4) what were his Bible-reading/study habits, 5) what was the nature of his prayer life, I will maintain that this murderer had no true concept of Christian and was not, in the Biblical sense (there is no there other), a Christian.
The devil is always there to surprise us with the devil being in the details. Neither did I suspect I would see it in my day.
“Have they already discounted the possibility that he may just be a crazy lunatic and there’s nothing more to it than that?”
Won’t sell. “Christian fundamentalist” will.
Not always. The first, second and third word on TWA 800 was terrorism. The New York Times ran the PETN and RDX residue discovery on page one. For about a month it was, for the most part, presumed to be a terrorist act.
Then Richard Clarke invented the magic exploding center fuel tank theory -- a freak occurrence that's only happened three times in aviation history (Bangkok/Manilla/NYC), all in incidents where islamic terrorism was highly suspected, it should be noted.
The FB is bogus.
and I will pray that we will always be at least one justice or more away from tyranny. God may it be so. Amen.
Copying so people will see.
BTW, in case anyone missed it, the fertilizer they say was delivered to his farm is STILL THERE. The police located it and except for what was used on his farm, it is all there.
You're either a blithering idiot or a paid troll. "One of our guys"? Seriously, go to hell.
But millions of people don't yet realize the truth.
"right wing" in Norway is basically centrist here. He had been a member of the Progress Party which adheres to, according to Wikipedia, "populism" and "conservative liberalism".
Getting some feedback now. But these personality traits are the same as all the other characters. Persecuted. Unappreciated. Humiliated. “Deserved” more respect. When you hang out on forums, and you exhibit these tendencies, you show vulnerability. You are ripe for exploitation...either by the far left, which I am being told is absolutely plausible here for various reasons and at high levels, and by islamists recruiting for jihad using taqyya or other means.
I am being told that a possible leftist crackdown on what we would call conservatives has passed the talking stage...that the hard left has joined forces with islamists to stop the conservative movements in Europe and Scandinavia because they fear these movements are growing too fast, becoming too popular, and will force them out of power.
If this is true, and I’m told by some the fear is there, then this is just a prelude to what is coming. There and here. Conservatives will find themselves being hit from every possible direction.
Given his age it’s possible (but a bit later than normal) he’s had a first paranoid schizophrenic break, which took his apparently fairly mainstream and non-violent conservative political views and twisted them into an obsession against the Norwegian Labour Party; however, the level of his personal planning and organization in the attacks seems to be a bit unrealistic for the condition; however, there are always exceptions and outlier cases in mental illness.
Probably need a subpoena for that. International involvement can also muck things up as well.
Any “info” on his Face Book page is bogus - fake, planted, he probably didn’t even put it there and if he did, it was to paint a picture.
>> I hate to say that this is a rigtht wing extremist. but it it. :(This is one of our guys, Please accept it.!
Get lost, dirtbag.
What the hell are you smokin’?