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To: Tolsti2

Actually, a very small island like that should be easy to defend, so long as the need for defense is given due consideration.

What I was responding to is the reported ninety minute delay after law enforcement became aware of the island attack.

I do not know Norway’s emergency response structure, I would hope it is similar to Sweden, but would not presume so.

Ninety minutes is an eternity in such a situation, any country on earth should be able to summon a response faster than that.

From what I observe, the more “primitive” the society the faster their response to a similar attack would be.
In our overly “Civilized” society we have too many chiefs required to grant permission, hand out the weapons, coordinate the response, consult with lawyers, prepare the press release, etc.

In the “backward” regions a camp staffer would have just shot the SOB as soon as his intent became clear.
Or maybe one of the kids themselves, in some parts of the world that is still a possibility!


48 posted on 07/23/2011 2:34:49 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Loyal Sedition
any country on earth should be able to summon a response faster than that.

Sure, but I thought that was the point of the bomb. Divert attention, and attack the island.

53 posted on 07/23/2011 2:38:37 AM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: Loyal Sedition

Lots of blame to go around. Clearly they didn’t expect this at all.

IMO the guy went apeshit on a weird target. Interogate and kill him if there’s nothing else.


54 posted on 07/23/2011 2:39:15 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Loyal Sedition

Over at Pajamas Media, it was pointed out that Norway has very few cops on a per capita basis. It was less than half of what Sweden has for example. So the bombs in Oslo would have made for a very effective diversion of official attention while he commences his shooting spree elsewhere. Norway is a country that’s still not even begun to come to grips with increasing criminal violence among Islamic immigrants let alone how to deal with and respond to actual large scale attacks like this one.

The use of a cop uniform was diabolically effective. The following quote from an AP article today nails it —

“Elise said she had just come out from an information meeting in a nearby building when she heard gunshots. She saw a police officer and thought she was safe, but then he started shooting.”


207 posted on 07/23/2011 6:36:31 AM PDT by LenS
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To: Loyal Sedition

Spiegel.de reports the response time was 30 minutes. That’s still 30 minutes too late.

To me, the lesson of that island massacre is EDC, every day carry. Not just for defense, but also first aid.

We have to be our first responders.


219 posted on 07/23/2011 6:47:57 AM PDT by moshiach
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