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"Note to FR and its members. You must be so proud that your idealogy has ended in the murder of kids"

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1 posted on 07/23/2011 11:44:49 AM PDT by GonzoII
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I am not sure if or how much a part of a church he was, or what kind of church it was. But those who assert that the terrorist was acting consistent with the Bible are potentially as dangerous as he is, and historically, rather than religious violence, many Christian Evangelica­l fundamenta­list have chosen to be complete pacifists.

In contrast, the Qur’an does promote religious violence (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/JESUS.Vs.Muhammad.html), and its monologue of theology lacks the context and clarity needed to restrict what “war” against Islam is, and religious violence to simply being in a defensive context, while physical retaliation and fighting is clearly sanctioned and commanded, such as until all the religion of the land be of Allah. (Qur’an:8:39) While religious violence was sanctioned for Israel in a limited context, under the New Testament the Bible does not offer any sanction for physical religious violence, such as,

1. killing others due to their contrary views.

2. the church correcting false beliefs among church members

3. the church exercising such to rule over those without (1Cor. 5:12)

4. to expand the church

A possible exception might be in order to save others from being hurt in an immediate situation, but that is hardly a religious context.

While the aforementioned violence has happened in history (Crusades, etc) , that was the result of men assuming superior authority over Scripture, with ignorance of the latter among the laity. The early church and its individual in the New Testament, being under the New Covenant (which Jesus instituted at His death), never used violence. Rather, “we do not war after the flesh, For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal,” “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against..spiritual wickedness..” (2Cor. 10:3,4; Eph. 6:12) Thus “the weapons of our warfare” spiritual, “By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left..” (2Cor. 6:7)

The same N.T. does sanction the just use of the sword by the civil government, which is based upon moral views in any country, but the N.T. itself separates the powers.

As for the atheists who love to lump all religions together as blood thirsty, know that more killing and oppression has been done under the recent rise of atheism than by religion, from Mao to PolPot to Communism, as its objectively baseless moral reasoning can easily sanction anything as reasonable to achieve its ends.

Also, “Liberal Violence: Five Names You Should Know” http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2010/03/16/liberal_violence_five_names_you_should_know/page/full/


32 posted on 07/23/2011 12:50:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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You still hold the record for generating the body count that far exceeds anything you accuse others of being responsible for.. The sad thing, It comes naturally to you.

—NR—


33 posted on 07/23/2011 12:57:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: GonzoII

The ideology of simplicity, common sense, and freedom means murder?


35 posted on 07/23/2011 1:21:09 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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As far as I’m concerned the far left can all go to hell. They all deserve what’s coming their way. I hope they get it in spades and lose it all.


38 posted on 07/23/2011 1:39:02 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: GonzoII

The killer’s facebook page was altered hours after the massacre to include the terms “christian” and “conservative”. Obviously he is neither, and obviously the left will say and do anything to parlay any atrocity into political favor.


42 posted on 07/23/2011 3:27:55 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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Pathetic vermin


43 posted on 07/23/2011 4:55:35 PM PDT by el_texicano (Extremism in the face of tyranny is no fault, Moderation in the face of evil, no virtue.)
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