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Norway police arrive 90 minutes after firing began
AP/WorldMag ^ | Jul 23, 11:20 PM EDT | By IAN MacDOUGALL and LOUISE NORDSTROM

Posted on 07/23/2011 9:40:14 PM PDT by quantim

OSLO, Norway (AP) -- Police arrived at an island massacre about an hour and a half after a gunman first opened fire, slowed because they didn't have quick access to a helicopter and then couldn't find a boat to make their way to the scene just several hundred yards (meters) offshore. The assailant surrendered when police finally reached him, but 82 people died before that.

Survivors of the shooting spree have described hiding and fleeing into the water to escape the gunman, but a police briefing Saturday detailed for the first time how long the terror lasted - and how long victims waited for help.

The shooting came on the heels of what police told The Associated Press was an "Oklahoma city-type" bombing in Oslo's downtown: It targeted a government building, was allegedly perpetrated by a homegrown assailant and used the same mix of fertilizer and fuel that blew up a federal building in the U.S. in 1995.

In all, at least 89 people were killed in the twin attacks that police are blaming on the same suspect, 32-year-old Norwegian Anders Behring Breivik.

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1 posted on 07/23/2011 9:40:17 PM PDT by quantim
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When seconds count, the police are just 90 minutes away. Was the island a gun-free zone(tm)?


2 posted on 07/23/2011 9:43:55 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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Labor party in power proved their lack of security policy and standards resulted in mass numbers of death. The lazy and dumb Labor party is responsible for police arriving more than one hour later, and not proposing laws to strengthen security checks of suspicious people. They should be thrown out the next election for lack of capability to handle their own country.


3 posted on 07/23/2011 9:47:07 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: coloradan

Dang, I was just going to post that same remark.


4 posted on 07/23/2011 9:47:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Wiz
and not proposing laws to strengthen security checks of suspicious people.

Oh they will now, of course the "suspicious" people will only be white Christians.

5 posted on 07/23/2011 9:48:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: quantim

does the Labor Party own the island,
or were just renting it?


6 posted on 07/23/2011 9:50:24 PM PDT by 50gunsalute
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To: coloradan

Not for the outlaw.


7 posted on 07/23/2011 9:51:38 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: quantim

8 posted on 07/23/2011 9:52:24 PM PDT by garjog
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To: quantim

Wasn’t it about 4 hours before the brave police entered Columbine?


9 posted on 07/23/2011 9:54:49 PM PDT by bgill
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Let’s see. It takes the shooter 25 minutes to get from a bombing to start shooting on the island. It then takes the Swat team and police 90 minutes to get to the island.


10 posted on 07/23/2011 10:01:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: quantim

Let’s see. It takes the shooter 25 minutes to get from a bombing to start shooting on the island. It then takes the Swat team and police 90 minutes to get to the island.


11 posted on 07/23/2011 10:02:09 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: quantim

Let’s see. It takes the shooter 25 minutes to get from a bombing to start shooting on the island. It then takes the Swat team and police 90 minutes to get to the island.


12 posted on 07/23/2011 10:02:17 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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Let’s see. It takes the shooter 25 minutes to get from a bombing to start shooting on the island. It then takes the Swat team and police 90 minutes to get to the island.


13 posted on 07/23/2011 10:02:24 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: quantim

NPR interview had the local law enforcement guy saying that when a “machine gun” type of weapon was being used the police can’t just go in— they have to be organized. ???


14 posted on 07/23/2011 10:07:16 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: 50gunsalute

Yes, it’s owned by the youth wing of the party.


15 posted on 07/23/2011 10:10:26 PM PDT by jimnm
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To: bgill

I think it was more like 45 minutes, but I’ll admit that can sure seem like hours when a bunch of people are taking potshots at you during that time.


16 posted on 07/23/2011 10:11:43 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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couldn't find a boat

At least one private boat had been picking up fleeing swimmers, so I wonder what gives.

Spiegel Online is also running the 90 minutes of shooting report. They write that the police took 40 minutes (!) to arrive after the alarm was received.

A real black eye for the Norwegian police. They're useless.

17 posted on 07/23/2011 10:17:19 PM PDT by longjack
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To: taxesareforever

Apparently the dude is a lone wolf one man army.

Maybe could even be in two places at once, even.


18 posted on 07/23/2011 10:18:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: longjack

I guess they have donut shops in Norway, too.


19 posted on 07/23/2011 10:18:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: coloradan

Ok, looked it up. The Columbine shooting began at 11:19 and the SWAT team didn’t enter the school until nearly two hours later at 1:09 and didn’t get to the library until 3:22 (that was the 4 hours - if only they’d been quicker). I’d say the Norwegian police did a bit better. Not much, but they did have to get out to an island compared to just down the street. As another poster said, when seconds count the police are hours away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre


20 posted on 07/23/2011 10:24:23 PM PDT by bgill
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