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‘I’m just quitting’: A scene right out of ‘Atlas Shrugged’ in Birmingham
David McElroy ^ | July 20th, 2011 | David McElroy

Posted on 07/25/2011 7:22:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster

If it had been a scene in “Atlas Shrugged,” the guy would have disappeared into the secrecy of Colorado with a shadowy figure who we would later learn to be John Galt. In real life, the story will probably be more complex. But I wonder how long it’s going to be before businesspeople really do start walking away and deciding it’s not worth doing business in America today. Or it it already happening and we just don’t know it?

The man you see in the picture at the right is named Ronnie Bryant. He operates coal mines in Alabama. I’d never heard of him until this morning, but after what I saw and heard from him, I’d say he’s a bit like a southern version of Ellis Wyatt from Ayn Rand’s novel. What I saw made an impression on me.

(Excerpt) Read more at davidmcelroy.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Alabama
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To: wbill

We have good friends who are veterinarians. You can sell property such as a clinic building, but the practice itself is so dependent upon the personal interactions of the clients with the vet, that it isn’t a commodity. No one *owns* a client base. About all a professional can do is grow into a corporate practice and then sell out to the remaining practitioner partners, assuming all that growth was actually successful or not so stressful as to almost not be worth it. A sole practitioner really has nothing to sell.


101 posted on 07/25/2011 10:23:38 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: FreedomPoster

Nice. Looking forward to it.


102 posted on 07/25/2011 10:27:21 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: houeto

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103 posted on 07/25/2011 10:38:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (It still increases the debt limit.)
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To: Anima Mundi

“There is no such thing as “ordinary people”. We are ordinary or extraordinary as we so choose to be. And, when we choose to be ordinary that is okay, it does not require any special treatment.”

I just got off of a call from a friend of mine in the UK. He told me an anecdote about something Ronald Reagan ran across while touring one of the space centers here in the US.

A janitor was spotted in a hallway that was supposed to be cleared by Secret Service. Reagan spotted the man, who was shuffling his rolling cart and waste bucket, out of a door at the behest of Secret Service.

Reagan saw that the man was more than compliant, and after checking with security, greeted the man in the hall.

Reagan greeted the man, and as an icebreaker asked the man what he did there at the space center. From people there, as soon as he asked the question he sort of wanted to pull it back, given the man was pushing a janitorial cart.

What surprised him was the reply:

“Mr. President, I help build the finest spacecraft on earth, and they put men in orbit, and on the moon.”

There’s no such thing as ‘only a janitor’.

I have no idea whether this story is true. The point of it remains valid.

In any significant effort, all jobs matter.


104 posted on 07/25/2011 10:40:23 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: FreedomPoster

Read the comments below the article. Chilling.
Bryant isn’t the only one throwing in the towel.


105 posted on 07/25/2011 10:50:16 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: zeugma
Talking to her is like talking to someone who lives on a different planet, or in a different universe

I frequently debate with a Lib in the office. He's a decent sort, if a bit misguided. I suspect that he thinks the same of me. :-)

He couldn't understand that people would actively *choose* to make less money. He just couldn't conceive of it. "I'm sure that, given a choice between making 50K/yr and 100K/yr, that people will always choose the higher number. Always, and without exception."

He didn't believe me when I told him about some of the businessmen I know. (see my previous posts)

Hell, I doubt he believed me when I told him that *I* choose not to make more money as, say, a Computer Consultant. With the Gov't taking 1/2 of the difference (say between my regular gig, and consulting) right off the top, what would be the point to working twice as hard and having far less job security? Unless there's a significant payback to accepting the risk (right now, there is not) ... why accept it?

106 posted on 07/25/2011 10:51:21 AM PDT by wbill
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To: MrB

bump coal/energy


107 posted on 07/25/2011 10:57:34 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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108 posted on 07/25/2011 11:05:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: GeronL
And what will those people do when they get their wish and most of their town is unemployed

Those who had their jobs destroyed will wonder what happened. The smarter ones will move on, or perhaps learn a new trade that still has a demand. Perhaps the slower of them will blame folks like Mr. Bryant.

Those who destroyed the jobs will self-righteously, and with a completely clean conscience, move on to their next target.

109 posted on 07/25/2011 11:14:47 AM PDT by wbill
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To: reformedliberal
About all a professional can do is grow into a corporate practice and then sell out to the remaining practitioner partners

That's exactly what he did, and also (now that he's thinking about retirement) what he's now attempting to do. No one wants to step into his role as the "owner / manager".

He could sell to competitors (I think that he entertained an offer at one time), or close the practice completely (approximtely the same thing, only he makes $$$ with the former) ... but this evil, greedy, capitalistic so-and-so (/sarc) feels a responsibility to all of the people who work for him, and frankly, the patients, too. He doesn't want to put several dozen people out of work, esp. in a market like this.

So, he keeps on going. He's removed himself from a lot of the day-to-day - his people seem to have no problem with making decisions, so long as they don't accept responsibility to go along with them. :-) His attitude is, more-or-less, "Meh, I'm still making money, but don't really care one way or the other. Retirement is paid for, Kid's college bills are paid for, now I'd just like to get my own time and enjoy the grandkids." But the current environment, and his sense of responsibility, won't let him.

And don't get the guy started on Obamacare. Never mind the business side, he says that his medical training is going to come in handy for himself and the rest of his family, later.

110 posted on 07/25/2011 11:29:38 AM PDT by wbill
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To: FreedomPoster

If Ronnie Bryant meant what he said in that meeting, then I think I found a new hero. I will aspire to have cajones like that!


111 posted on 07/25/2011 11:37:14 AM PDT by C.O. Correspondence (The IRS has reported they can now, scientifically get blood from a turnip.)
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To: FreedomPoster

If Ronnie Bryant meant what he said in that meeting, then I think I found a new hero. I will aspire to have cajones like that!


112 posted on 07/25/2011 11:37:28 AM PDT by C.O. Correspondence (The IRS has reported they can now, scientifically get blood from a turnip.)
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To: Publius

Thanks. Such a shame to see this country run down by those who can’t even handle their own problems.


113 posted on 07/25/2011 11:55:25 AM PDT by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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To: waterhill

Teton County has high taxes.


114 posted on 07/25/2011 12:11:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: FreedomPoster; Lazmataz
"I have an 1100 gallon rainwater tank under my deck."

Hmmmmm. That tank could easily have an interior partition full of subsidized ethanol for all we know. Mentioning Laz wuz the tipoff;-)

115 posted on 07/25/2011 12:18:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Publius

Thanks for the ping.

Perhaps we should keep a tally of the public “Gulchers.”

Until we get shed of Obongo Bozo and his LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascicst minions, there will be more businessmen and women who will just throw up their hands, close their business’s doors and go to their version of Galt’s Gulch.


116 posted on 07/25/2011 12:30:47 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Publius

PS Is it 2012 yet?


117 posted on 07/25/2011 12:31:51 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Paladin2

118 posted on 07/25/2011 12:53:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: 2001convSVT

Obama and his thugs are doing to same thing to the natural gas and oil business here in Texas and Louisiana. He talks a good game on natural gas, but his departments and leftwing/marxist accomplices are actually destroying our domestic energy production with regulations and lawsuits.

He is also destroying the farming industry with the same stuff...so don’t think for a moment that you can escape the marxist’s grasp by going to your own private property..they are out to get that too. The next they they are going to do is try to raid everyone’s 401 accounts....mark my word.


119 posted on 07/25/2011 12:59:27 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: maine-iac7
I've been to some of the gulches around Meeteetse and viewed them from the air. It's the most likely spot.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_74d9ecec-bc8f-11df-bc2a-001cc4c002e0.html

120 posted on 07/25/2011 1:23:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GeronL
And what will those people do when they get their wish and most of their town is unemployed?

They will blame it on Republicans generally...and George W. Bush in particular. It's all part of their scheme.

121 posted on 07/25/2011 1:29:10 PM PDT by ponygirl (Okay, so you're not a racist. Who are you going to vote for in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot?)
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To: ponygirl

true. too true.


122 posted on 07/25/2011 1:55:05 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: FreedomPoster

It would be better all around if conservative small business owners would just lie low and stop hiring and do their best to hang on until we KO Obammy and his tribe of czars.

Libertarians, on the other hand, relish in the opportunity of misery. Laid off workers and failed businesses in the name of “going galt” is the fairy tale dream.

Mind you, Galt is a fairy tale character in a fiction novel written by an anti-religious freedom materialist zealot from the Soviet Union. It’s destruction and ancharcy for the West to be cheered on. Freakin’ Freaks!


123 posted on 07/25/2011 2:28:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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bookmark for later reading.


124 posted on 07/25/2011 2:29:53 PM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Paladin2
I remember reading about the monastery last year - the building plans are fascination - love the individual hermitages - I want one with south window ;o) - except, of course, no women allowed. Frat.

However, up around that Beartooth range would certainly make for an interesting ‘community.’

My thinking, though, is that if/when the SHIF, might be too many that will head for Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming - thinking that's where to go.

I have another place picked out - certainly not ‘majestic’ as to landscape - but FAR away from cities, plenty of woods, water, wildlife, good growing ground, etc - and a place where none the city escapees would even think to run to. Also, not prone to natural disasters and, if need be, not a long hop (hike) to Canada.

A nice community of like souls could make a good, sustainable, self protecting community that wouldn't be a blip on anyone’s radar - especially the goons.

As an Indian friend of mine wrote (song):

Apocollapse

....
So store lots of food
& move far from town
Move close to some wood.
Put seed in the ground
& gather your fiends
& live close and quiet....

And he wrote this 2 decades ago - he “sees” way ahead...and he has done the above and teaching others to -

125 posted on 07/25/2011 3:01:39 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: Publius; FreedomPoster; blam

Interesting indeed. The following quote from blam’s thread, “Broke! 10 Facts About The Financial Condition Of American Families....”, from yesterday goes into considerable detail, and it is none too hopeful : |

“”The federal government bureaucracy has become so oppressive that it is amazing that anyone is still willing to hire workers in this day and age.

Hiring workers has become so complicated and so expensive that many small business owners want to avoid it at all cost.

For example, a small business owner identified as “007” recently left the following comment on one of my recent articles....

“”Speaking as a small employer, I would rather have a root canal than another employee. Let’s see. You first have to hire someone you trust without some labor lawyer suing you for some type of discrimination. Then you have OSHA to make sure your work place is safe. Then you have workmans compensation insurance, unemployment taxes, health insurance, liability insurance, now Obamacare. Oh be careful not to be deemed to have a “hostile work environment”. Then you have to negotiate the labor laws. The Department of Labor is constantly cranking out regulation.

Then you get the pleasure of paying payroll taxes both state and federal along with the required filing of a multitude of payroll forms. Miss filing or paying these taxes and you will be crushed with interest and penalties.

Of course, you are competing with businesses that can hire at a fraction of the cost of American Labor and with very little regulations. In this economy, no one in their right mind is hiring into this unstable and declining economy.

If business turns down all you have to worry about is laying off workers. Of course your unemployment insurance tax will go up 200% for years. Then you only have to then worry about a wrongful termination law suit.

If you happen to navigate all of these hurdles and make a profit, watch out for greedy unions waiting to suck the life out of your business. Then you face Obama and the socialist democrats at the end of the day wanting to redistribute your wealth demanding crushing taxes that strip away your working capital. He wants to redistribute it to people who don’t work or pay tax at all.

My view, let someone else be the crazy hero to put their life savings at risk to hire employees in this hostile employer environment. I think I will just get a computer to answer my phones, computerize every function of the office, I even have robot floor cleaners to avoid cleaning crews.

Truth is this country has made having employees a tremendous, beuracratic, expensive, legal risk. I am trying to keep the employees I have. However, this golden goose is on strike and will not be hiring further until it makes economic sense to do so.””

May God give us the strength, and the leaders to right the course of events : /

Tatt


126 posted on 07/25/2011 3:16:06 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: maine-iac7
"up around that Beartooth range would certainly make for an interesting ‘community.’"

Winter 9 mo. a year. Gardening would have to be indoors (And it's cloudy). Plenty-o-bears though.

127 posted on 07/25/2011 3:16:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: LadyPilgrim

Ping to post #42


128 posted on 07/25/2011 3:31:56 PM PDT by del4hope
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To: RinaseaofDs

I really like that and completely agree. I have vast respect for every job and for those people in the jobs who realize that, no matter what the job, it is important. for example, a waiter can make or break a dining experience and it is a difficult job that takes intelligence and stamina.

This shows up particularly on that reality show where the boss goes out and does the jobs of various people in the company. Invariable the boss is completely blown away at the complexity of the jobs and the dedication of those doing them.

Thanks for the story.


129 posted on 07/25/2011 3:51:21 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: yldstrk
And the administration wonders why

They're not "wondering." Remember Obama's statement: "If you open a coal fired power plant, we're going to bankrupt you."

That statement says everything about how this administration looks at energy suppliers that aren't "green."

Mark

130 posted on 07/25/2011 3:56:47 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Paladin2
ahaha - where I'm thinking of is far away from Wyoming - and long winters - but still good growing season - plenty of veggies/fruits to dry/can...plenty of wood for cooking and toe warming. Great ice fishing, snow shoeing...and still lots of bear - but not Grizzes, thank you all the same! ;o)
131 posted on 07/25/2011 5:19:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: FreedomPoster
Miner bump.

I had Coal miners in both my paternal and maternal sides of the family. My Grandfather and Great Grandfather were both Alabama Coal miners. My Grandfather retired as a Bureau of Mines - Bureau Chief for MESA (Mining Enforcement and Safety Administration) in Birmingham.



This is a cousin from a couple of generations back.

Photo caption: December 1910. "Shorpy Higginbotham, an oiler on the tipple at Bessie Mine" -- near Birmingham in Jefferson County, Alabama. Photograph by Lewis Wickes Hine.
© 2011 Shorpy.com
132 posted on 07/25/2011 5:30:47 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: del4hope

Wow!!! sad, sad, sad.....


133 posted on 07/25/2011 5:31:54 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: higgmeister

That’s a tough looking group of teenagers! Maybe some pre-teen.


134 posted on 07/25/2011 6:15:12 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Baynative

We will welcome him at the Gulch...


135 posted on 07/25/2011 6:38:20 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: maine-iac7
Well, there's all sorts of places along the border from WA to da UP and NYS through Me. Lower altitudes --> less winter.

Canada seems to be getting it's act together and shines much brighter than it did over many of the last decades.

136 posted on 07/25/2011 6:40:53 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: FreedomPoster
He was 14 when the photo was taken.

He served as a Private in the armed forces during World War I. On Nov. 19, 1927, he married Flora Belle Quinton. On Jan. 25 of the following year he died in a mine accident at the age of 31, crushed by a rock, and was buried in Jefferson County. He became a father, posthumously, when his widow bore his child in the summer of 1928. His older brother Jack had already been killed in a mine accident in 1920.

People lived hard lives back then.

137 posted on 07/25/2011 6:54:06 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: JDoutrider

I went Galt Five years ago. Tired of dealing with the government.

http://www.insidechips.com/public/4499print.cfm

Never looked back. Sometimes I look for people to help.


138 posted on 07/25/2011 6:57:39 PM PDT by Sundog (It takes a darn good reason for me to break down and post something these days.)
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To: Paladin2

I’m just here because I won a bid on a contract. Yeah, 21 hours drive from TX, but the money is GOOD and the high was
76 today.

Texas ain’t as sweet as some folks say it is, jobwise.

My contract included grilled Wapiti, as well.


139 posted on 07/25/2011 7:03:08 PM PDT by waterhill (Little 'r' republican: taker of the Founder's 'Red Pill'...www.mikechurch.com)
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To: FreedomPoster
Thanks for posting

Bttt
140 posted on 07/25/2011 7:07:55 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: waterhill
The force within WY is strong. Jackson is a good place to hang out. Teton County is a good place to live (if you enjoy winter), it's just not the optimum wrt taxes (if $ matter).

I tried to get "the little woman" to move there, but she balked.

If only Montana had Wyoming's tax structure, the decisions would be trivial.

141 posted on 07/25/2011 7:09:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: waterhill
"Yeah, 21 hours drive from TX"

I was looking into a giant road trip that included a drive from Denver to Dallas. That seemed to be a relatively nasty leg timewise if one wasn't interested in stops along the way (I've pretty much explored that territory over the last few decades).

We decided to fly to Dallas and back and delete that part of the trip while deferring the rest for a few weeks.

Enjoy.

142 posted on 07/25/2011 7:19:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

yes on Canada = especially NS, NB. Laid back - much like 60 yrs ago here... and they seem to be pulling back from the brink while we seem hell bent on going over...


143 posted on 07/25/2011 8:52:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: Paladin2

66 degrees at 10:15 mountain. Nice sunsets over the
BridgerTetons.

Wish I could have brought the dingos, but they have cows to watch.

The mosquitoes are quite vicious here.


144 posted on 07/25/2011 9:39:04 PM PDT by waterhill (Little 'r' republican: taker of the Founder's 'Red Pill'...www.mikechurch.com)
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To: GeronL
These idiots want to redistribute the pies but they also want to shut down the bakeries.

They are a Cargo cult. They just know that there is no such thing as producers. Cargo is delivered by a fleet of C-47s.

145 posted on 07/25/2011 9:57:54 PM PDT by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: factoryrat

In other words, it’s called “The Aristocracy Of Pull”.


146 posted on 07/25/2011 9:59:40 PM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: Stentor

bump!


147 posted on 07/25/2011 10:01:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Sundog

It’s the best decision I ever made to retire and shed my businesses. Life is Good!


148 posted on 07/25/2011 11:24:37 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Cymbaline

Pretty much sums it up. Makes me wish Hank Rearden (sp?) ran an armory instead of a steel mill.


149 posted on 07/26/2011 6:44:34 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: FreedomPoster

This should be repeated and repeated....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/right-out-of-atlas-shrugged-hear-an-exasperated-alabama-businessman-tell-the-feds-im-just-quitting/


150 posted on 07/26/2011 9:04:35 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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