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Boehner tries to tame GOP on debt ceiling plan
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Posted on 07/27/2011 8:12:01 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Boehner: 'Get your ass in line' By: Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan July 27, 2011 09:55 AM EDT

Scrambling for votes on his troubled deficit package, Speaker John Boehner told GOP lawmakers Wednesday morning to “get your ass in line” behind his debt ceiling bill, saying the Senate will fold and pass it.

“This is the bill,’ Boehner said in a closed-door meeting of House Republicans on Wednesday morning. “I can’t do this job unless you’re behind me.”

Boehner was forced to postpone the vote until Thursday after the Congressional Budget Office said it fell $150 billion short of the $1 trillion goal. Many GOP lawmakers are still undecided whether they will back the measure.

Boehner also predicted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) and Senate Democrats will have to pass his proposal once the House does. Reid has an alternate plan to cut $2.7 trillion.

“If this gets chaotic, they (the Senate) will fold like a cheap suit,” Boehner said, according to GOP sources.

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To: Sub-Driver

No, John...YOU get your ass in line behind those freshmen Congressmen...they were sent there by the people last November to CUT spending and repeal DeathCare, and to get it done now. No more smoke and mirrors...as far as I am concerned; you should be replaced in 2012...the ‘old boy’ network must GO!


51 posted on 07/27/2011 8:47:19 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

“Assume Boehner’s plan passes.
- The GOP looks more reasonable, in bending to avoid default.
- Obama will have to go through this one more time before the 2012 election.
Both things could lead to enough gains that real reform could be possible.
Sometimes pragmatism isn’t all bad.”

Or maybe the marxist vetoes Boehner’s bill, leaving him holding the bag for the ensuing mess (and there would be a mess, driven by fundamentals, and exacerbated by fear and greed). Pragmatism won’t permit him to risk the consequences, so the Republicans would win this particular skirmish if the bill makes it to the marxist’s desk. Which is why Obama, Reid and Pelosi want to kill Boehner’s bill.


52 posted on 07/27/2011 8:47:43 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Sub-Driver

He actually said that? How crude.


53 posted on 07/27/2011 8:48:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: libs_kma

The Committee will return NOTHING, just like Simpson-Bowles didn’t give Obama the answers he wanted.


54 posted on 07/27/2011 8:49:47 AM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: runninglips

IMO. I was glad he had him on, Rush got the bad news straight from the horses ass.

Boner should get HIS ass in line...the unemployment line.


55 posted on 07/27/2011 8:50:03 AM PDT by RetSignman (It's Summertime...the "Goebbles Warmers" are back from hibernation.)
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To: trisham

The Cryer is trying to do his LBJ impersonation, ain’t gonna work.


56 posted on 07/27/2011 8:50:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sans-Culotte

We have to get rid of Obama and the Dem majority in the Senate first

We heard that same tune we the GOP controlled ALL three branches of GOVT not that long ago. And they spent like drunken sailors as well.

For people who think like u, it’s always the next fight, always the next election... it’s NEVER THE PRESENT. Never a time to draw a line in the sand. And that is why it never changes, because people who think like you always want to put off the tough choices in the future, never the present.


57 posted on 07/27/2011 8:50:31 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Sub-Driver
Someday soon when I drive up US Route 29 from Central Virginia to DC I fully expect to see signs saying, "Welcome to Greece."

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2011/07/27/90133

58 posted on 07/27/2011 8:51:31 AM PDT by Jefferson Spins (in his grave at Monticello because our republic is imperiled from within)
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To: tennmountainman

Boehner needs to negotiate like Lisa Douglas used to negotiate with Mr. Haney on Green Acres.

First, he sends a bill with $200 Billion cuts per year.

Senate or Obama trash it.

Next, he sends a bill with $300 Billion cuts per year.

Senate or Obama trash it.

Next, he sends a bill with $400 Billion in cuts per year ...

[That would give the GOP plenty of ammo to confront the Senate and Obama — hey we send a bill and they vote it down or veto it — but they have only come up with one bill, from Obama, and the Senate voted that down 97-0. The Dems don’t want to resolve this and they haven’t come up with a budget in over 800 days now.]


59 posted on 07/27/2011 8:53:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: grobdriver

There are so many different plans out there but if I am not mistaken Reid’s plan includes getting rid of Bush’s 2013 tax cuts, but it does not call it a tax increase.


60 posted on 07/27/2011 8:53:41 AM PDT by mware
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To: tennmountainman; holdonnow

Mark needs to hammer Boehner again hard tonight.


61 posted on 07/27/2011 8:54:04 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Aria

We’re on the same page Aria.

We may have missed that opportunity. Boehner and the gang of 6 undermined CCB.


62 posted on 07/27/2011 8:55:08 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Joe 6-pack
Speaker Boehner, Leadership 101 suggests that the quickest way to get people behind you is merely to step to the front.

Boehner, get thee to an e-reader....

George Washington on Leadership [Hardcover] Richard Brookhiser

63 posted on 07/27/2011 8:55:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: Principled

Pull a fast one and send the Cut Cap and Balance to the Senate again instead. They won’t read it and it’s a better bill.

(2007 deficit 160 Billion, 2008 - 458 billion, 2009 -1.4 Trillion, 2010 - 1.6 Trillion)


64 posted on 07/27/2011 9:00:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (2007 deficit 160 Billion, 2008 - 458 billion, 2009 -1.4 Trillion, 2010 - 1.6 Trillion)
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To: mware

Reid’s plan uses money that would result from ending the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

[ye ole shellgame continues on Capitol Hill]


65 posted on 07/27/2011 9:01:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Levin will hammer these hacks and the strong arming that’s going down in DC.


66 posted on 07/27/2011 9:02:40 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: mrs9x

The Republicans control the purse strings, so they control the budget. Obama and the Senate can just piss up a rope.


67 posted on 07/27/2011 9:02:42 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Principled

We may have missed that opportunity. Boehner and the gang of 6 undermined CCB

He did not help his cause when the CBO numbers came out on his plan. The “phantom” numbers were not even what Bonehead and Cantor have been sprewing over the airways. If one is going to put out a sham plan, at least make sure the sham plan numbers are accurate.


68 posted on 07/27/2011 9:06:40 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: runninglips
Ditto!! No pun intended.

Thank God someone gets it.
I had turn Rush off after he said we need more Repub’s. to get it done right. RINO’s S*^K!! Confrontation. Not Compromise.

Good Day.

69 posted on 07/27/2011 9:08:59 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal!)
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To: Lancey Howard
-- The Senate has not even brought CC&B up for debate or a vote yet. --

Senate Roll Call Vote No. 116 22-Jul H.R. 2560 On the Motion to Table Agreed to Motion to Table the Motion to Proceed to Consider H.R. 2560; A bill to cut, cap, and balance the Federal budget.

The Senate has formally said, by roll call vote, that it won't even CONSIDER taking the bill up.

70 posted on 07/27/2011 9:11:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Sub-Driver; All

I am glad for the Tea Party coalition holding the line on spending, but I also think we must avoid “Alinsky-iting” the man. Hussein would triumph in the case of a split Republican party, as the WSJ points out.


71 posted on 07/27/2011 9:12:47 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Sub-Driver

Congress needs to get in-line behind the American people...


72 posted on 07/27/2011 9:15:06 AM PDT by mo
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To: Sub-Driver

(A)Boehner; Take “Cut, Cap and Balance” increase the cuts(to something realistic) and pass it again..

NO debt limit increase “IS” a balanced budget deal..

goto (A)..


73 posted on 07/27/2011 9:15:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: mware
Ha! Here's my answer... thought so.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2754610/posts
74 posted on 07/27/2011 9:23:13 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Doogle

Get be hind him? Screw that, try running away from the sell out!


75 posted on 07/27/2011 9:26:52 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: Cboldt
The Senate has formally said, by roll call vote, that it won't even CONSIDER taking the bill up.

Then it should be very clear to everybody, thanks to Republicans shouting over and over and over from the rooftops about this Senate stonewalling, that the crisis of a looming government shutdown lays squarely with Harry Reid and the Senate.

The Republicans ARE shouting this from the rooftops, right?

76 posted on 07/27/2011 9:27:15 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RockinRight
I challenge the hard-nosers on FR to become a Congressman and get ANY bill passed that we conservatives are 100% happy with...

We can’t even convince EACH OTHER on FR who the best Presidential candidate is, can you imagine trying to get 220 Congressman and 51 Senators, and a President on top of that to all support a bill?

I agree. Isn't it sad that us well-informed FReepers who have all the knowledge, principles, high morals, and answers to all problems, still disagree. Thankfully, there are no consequences when we are wrong...and we never have to stand for re-election! LOL!

77 posted on 07/27/2011 9:28:17 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: trisham
He actually said that? How crude.

Crude or not...he put it into words that they understand. :)

You want crude? We can be thankful he didn't have to put it into words that Sheila Jackson-Lee would understand. LOL!

78 posted on 07/27/2011 9:32:57 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: brownsfan

At this point I would go one step further. Give the Bambster his clean bill with a DC increase based on CBO figures for government spending requirements over the next 6 month. Nothing for anything new, just enough to keep the doors open until a new budget can be passed. See if he vetoes it, which I think he will because his ultimate plan is to collapse the economy and blame it on the GOP in general and the Tea Party specifically to scare Indies back into the fold for 2012. If he does veto it then at that point he has no credibility left and should be hammered on it. If he signs it then the GOP goes back to work putting together a budget with REAL cuts in it and dare the Democrats to table it. If they do then we right back here again just as the next election cycle is starting up, which puts O’Bama right where he doesn’t want to be.


79 posted on 07/27/2011 9:46:46 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Sub-Driver

Speaking of asses. This is a fitting position for Boner. Hat tip to Drudge.

80 posted on 07/27/2011 9:52:06 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't go wobbly on me now GOP leadership)
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To: glennaro

The tea party is the only reason this stuff is even being talked about, that’s the good thing. Hopefully those people who supported the TP understand they make up a large minority of the majority in one house of the Congress and don’t own the WH. I think Allen West gets that, but people here are already calling him a sell out. My point is we need more people to get things done, so lets get what we can now, get the Senate and WH back in 2012 and then start cracking heads.


81 posted on 07/27/2011 9:54:13 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Sub-Driver

I would like to know exactly what the end-game strategy is for conservatives who urge opposition to the Boehner bill.

At least I can see what Boehner is up to; I don’t like it, but I understand how it puts us in a better position than we are today.

I don’t see the victory in defeating a bill out of the house. If the goal is to force him to tweak his plan some to make it better, I understand and support that, but if the goal is to defeat it no matter what he does to it, I’d like to see what they think will happen in the end.

Is the goal to get nothing, to give Obama the credit for “solving” the crisis, and then hope that america will reward conservatives for this by electing republican majorities in the house, senate, and white house so we can reverse the damage? I don’t see how that plays out.

Is the goal to prevent the debt ceiling increase, with the intent that we never borrow any more than we already owe now, and that will force spending cuts and we’ll be better off? That would be a fantastic result, but how is that ever going to happen?

Presuming Boehner is wrong-headed as they say he is when he’s in a position of power as he is now, do they really think that, two weeks from now, faced with a manufactured debt crisis (Obama has the power to manipulate almost everything that happens to his favor, and the media will back him), that Boehner and at least 40 other soft republicans WON’T bolt and do anything they can to stop the “pain”, just like they did on TARP?

And once they do, do you think we’ll get ANYTHING else out of this republican congress? Or do you think that the resolution will make people love the conservatives more?

IN some ways, I see this as the same question we are asking the democrats — WHAT IS THE PLAN? Boehner has made an actual plan, which makes it easy to attack him because we don’t like it. WHAT IS THE conservative alternative plan?

(Not “what is the conservative position” — I know that, we’ve passed it, and it is dead. Do we think Reid and Obama are going to get scared about the fate of the country, and capilulate to that plan? When have the democrats done what is good for the country? Why would they start now?)

I’m ready to back the “say no” strategy, but I want to see that it is logical, thought-out, and has a reasonable chance of achieving a better end.


82 posted on 07/27/2011 10:09:26 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sub-Driver

“Get your ass in line”... so you can get ****ed in it.

FOAD, Boner.


83 posted on 07/27/2011 10:39:44 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: KittenClaws

“But there should certainly be no compromise on what is right”

In regard to morality, definitely.

In regard to governmental politics, there’s seldom a consensus on what is “right”, so theoretically neither side gets to have it all their own way (although Obama is doing his best to destroy that premise).

If the GOP gets the blame for a market meltdown (which could happen if the dems and media succeed in convincingly painting them as obstructionists to a fickle public), they’ll have shot themselves in the foot.


84 posted on 07/27/2011 10:50:23 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

The GOP is going to get blamed one way or the other - about one thing or another.

The “I can’t do what is best for the United States because I don’t want to be blamed by foolish liberal tools who will NEVER vote GOP anyway” game - lacks integrity.


85 posted on 07/27/2011 11:26:21 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have a suggestion.. Boehner get your head out of yours (ass) and work for the taxpaying American People, notice this is not all Americans. Do we have any plans to replace this nitwit for the next inevitable crisis ?


86 posted on 07/27/2011 11:44:56 AM PDT by contrarian (proud new monthly contributor... even when I kill threads by posting)
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To: KittenClaws

“The “I can’t do what is best for the United States because I don’t want to be blamed by foolish liberal tools who will NEVER vote GOP anyway” game - lacks integrity.”

How does integrity play into this?

It’s a numbers game.

The sad reality is that socialists and liberals control 2/3 of the federal government.

The other 1/3 has a choice: Either go down in political flames or live to fight another battle.

The integrity problem lies with our fellow citizens who voted for the socialist majority that comprises the other 2/3.


87 posted on 07/27/2011 11:50:28 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: tennmountainman
We heard that same tune we the GOP controlled ALL three branches of GOVT not that long ago. And they spent like drunken sailors as well.

We had the slimmest of majorities in the Senate, which vanished when Jumpin' Jim Jeffords went Independent. We also had a RINO president, and the senate was filled with RINOs like Trent Lott. My congressman at the time, Tom Delay was as spend-crazy as the rest of them, which is why I'm glad we have the rep we have now (Pete Olson). I am just hoping we get a non-RINO president and fewer senate RINOs.

In any case, Baraq has to go. We cannot function in a climate in which opposition to a president is considered racism by state run media cheerleaders.

88 posted on 07/27/2011 11:54:04 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I am just hoping we get a non-RINO president and fewer senate RINOs.

I hope so too. Only conservatives can save this country now.


89 posted on 07/27/2011 12:48:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Logical me
Bonehead just doesn't get it. The cuts should have been at least 5 or 6 trillion over 10 years with 1.2 cut the first year. What the hell is this dumb ass doing? Sure it might not pass the Senate or our dictator King Obama but at least over have of the population will be with him and they will blame the RATS for the crash.

Either Bonehead is the worst negotiator or the fix is in. Either way, he must go.

90 posted on 07/27/2011 12:48:57 PM PDT by Digger (T)
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To: BlatherNaut
I understand your point. Truly.

But, those who voted for the 2/3 you speak of are not going to vote any other way for any reason. They do not care about the Constitution or Rule of Law.

Each time we roll over and show our bellies the dem party becomes stronger and a totalitarian government that much closer.

We sent the new conservatives in there to "fight a battle". This IS our day to win - not wave a white flag because of the numbers game.

91 posted on 07/27/2011 1:05:25 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: BlatherNaut
Or maybe the marxist vetoes Boehner’s bill, leaving him holding the bag for the ensuing mess (and there would be a mess, driven by fundamentals, and exacerbated by fear and greed).

Have we learned nothing? The Lamestream Media, that is to say O-bozo sycophants, will fall all over themselves to make him look like the victim of the mean old GOP.

Worse yet, all the sheeple who appear on Jay Leno's 'Jaywalking' epsiodes will buy it hook, line and sinker.

92 posted on 07/27/2011 6:03:33 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Palin-________ Overdrive 2012 - Holy Flippin' Crap!!)
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To: library user

“I can’t do this job unless you’re behind me.”

Well Mr. Speaker... stop turning your ass around to the president, and bending over!


93 posted on 07/27/2011 6:03:52 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Sub-Driver
“I can’t do this job unless you’re behind me.”

Then quit.

94 posted on 07/27/2011 6:04:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats are no longer into "tax and spend," now it's all about "spend and tax.")
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To: Sans-Culotte; brownsfan
"Sometimes pragmatism isn’t all bad" "I agree"

Sorry, we don't have the money. No money = no time to play politics.


95 posted on 07/27/2011 6:12:34 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Sub-Driver

Politico: NY Times Lite


96 posted on 07/27/2011 6:23:13 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Joe 6-pack
Re. LEADERSHIP: US NAVY DIVISION OFFICERS GUIDE:

"The three core elements of leadership are personal example, effective management, and moral responsibility. In stressing the importance of the human element of leadership, CAPT Noel would probably be considered old fashioned in today's technology infatuated military. A word to contemporary military strategists now embracing anthropology and other "soft" techniques about CAPT Noel's definition of "moral responsibility:"

"The difference between Hitler and Churchill was not only their methods but in their motives. Irresponsible leadership threatens, bluffs, deceives, and oppresses; morally responsible leadership guides firmly and honestly, with every possible regard for human dignity."

97 posted on 07/27/2011 6:30:41 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: Sub-Driver

This smacks of panic on Boehner’s part. These people are hearing from home and the message is simple: No debt increase and trillions in spending cuts.

His threat is as empty as he is. The good news is we now know who the man is—a full-fledged flaming RINO. Just like McCain has unmasked himself as the same.

In a perverse way the perverse budget dance has had one positive result. And that is the unmasking of Boehner, McCain and some others as the true RINOs they are.


98 posted on 07/27/2011 6:37:09 PM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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This appeared in Politico, so, No Credibility Alert. The sentiment expressed is could be correct, but we’ll never know, because there’s too much pissing and moaning.

The budget proposals will wind up in conference committee, and IMHO won’t get settled until Christmas at the earliest. Since the partisan media is shilling fulltime on behalf of Zero, Mob-Ties Harry, and Tuna-Plant Nancy, the Demwit Party of the Single Party State can count on amnesia about the absolute limit of early August for the raising of the debt ceiling.


99 posted on 07/27/2011 6:38:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

This appeared in Politico, so, No Credibility Alert. The sentiment expressed is could be correct, but we’ll never know, because there’s too much pissing and moaning.

The budget proposals will wind up in conference committee, and IMHO won’t get settled until Christmas at the earliest. Since the partisan media is shilling fulltime on behalf of Zero, Mob-Ties Harry, and Tuna-Plant Nancy, the Demwit Party of the Single Party State can count on amnesia about the absolute limit of early August for the raising of the debt ceiling.


100 posted on 07/27/2011 6:39:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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