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No Vote Tonight on Boehner Bill
The Washington Times via Twitter ^ | Thursday, July 28, 2011 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 07/28/2011 7:45:36 PM PDT by kristinn

McCarthy said no vote tonight half a minute ago via Echofon


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; beohnerbill; boehner; debtceiling; default; heldtheline; kickthecan; noboner; novotetonight; ponzi
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To: kristinn

If you want to see establishment RINOs with their panties in a wad, go here & read the comments:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner


201 posted on 07/28/2011 9:16:50 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mariner

I am sure this will be a “classic!” /s


202 posted on 07/28/2011 9:17:19 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: Roccus

Yuck...and I was about to go eat a snack...killed that idea...LOL


203 posted on 07/28/2011 9:21:18 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: jafojeffsurf

Personally, I’ve NEVER been for Gad so I will not be returning. Now God, is another story. ;o)


204 posted on 07/28/2011 9:25:36 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: sickoflibs
RE: "we better hope that this DELAY results in a better bill passing House soon because judgment day is near."
Amen to that. And with that. When I am about to sign out for the night, morning wish the last Freeper... do have a great upcoming day.
205 posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:47 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: kristinn

” Well, it is an emergency. “ <<<<<

It’s still a heck of a term for a committee rule. I wondered when and where that moniker came from, and if “same day” authority somehow pulls Boehner”s fat out of the fire for losing the vote tonight. He may be in trouble.


206 posted on 07/28/2011 9:31:43 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: Starboard

Perhaps you should run for congress, and the Speakers job, if you think it is so easy.At least John is trying to do something. Which is a lot more than anyone else has done for over 800 days.


207 posted on 07/28/2011 9:33:50 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (The Mills of the Gods grind slow, but exceedingly fine.)
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To: Cheetahcat

I called my congressman who has chosen to support Boehner, and I mentioned my disappointment in West. The young woman manning the phones explained West’s position and I understood. You might call and ask his rational. I would tell you what she said, but frankly, it has all gotten so complicated, I’m not sure I’d tell you right.

I wish my rep. was not choosing this stand, but I understand his rational. I told his secretary that I think this has become a triangulation to cut out the conservatives in order to make them look like the schmucks brought to dinner to be made fun of. I hope it doesn’t turn out that way. I want to be wrong.

Spending is the issue. I thought CCB was an reasonable effort— not perfect, but reasonable. I really hoped, like so many others, that they would stand their ground there. Oh, well. It’s not over til it’s over. Who knows?


208 posted on 07/28/2011 9:40:15 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Red Badger
Good post. They've called their own bluff with these perpetual scare tactics, but the corruption is so deep they'll choose the path of manufactured crisis in order to "save face". Bizarro world, the Obamanation of desolation.

It's the beast with two houses er horns that makes the laws, forcing all to prostrate before "the" beast, hmmm. Tick tock...

209 posted on 07/28/2011 9:41:46 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Roccus

Hey, lets keep the goats out of this......GG (goatgranny):O)


210 posted on 07/28/2011 9:45:50 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: kristinn
MESSIER THAN YOU THINK: If Boehner bill fails, it makes it trickier for anything to get through Senate. Dems need it as a vehicle. 4 minutes ago via web

This type of bill must originate in the House. But Reid can take CCB off the table and use it as a vehicle.

211 posted on 07/28/2011 9:49:28 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, eat your GOPeas.)
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To: keeper53

Tea party backers — why don’t you form your own political party? You are an embarassment to may Republicans.

********************

Not true. Establishment Republicans are beyond embarrassment.

You do realize that the day of the Republican establishment is done, don’t you? Over. Either it is displaced and replaced by sincere representatives, or the GOP is utterly abandoned in the next few years. Either way, the day of the GOP nomenklatura is dead as dead can be. Dead as Vichy France. Dead as the Mensheviks. Dead as the Whigs. Dead, dead, dead.


212 posted on 07/28/2011 9:51:04 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: silentknight

That 14 trillion is only the what the US Government owes. The US itself owes 9 trillion, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae owe 6 trillion; state and local government, banks mortgages, credit cards; etc, etc and etc add up to about 52 trillion debt. It’s the compounded interest that killing us.


213 posted on 07/28/2011 9:55:10 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kristinn
The debt ceiling was passed years ago to cap government borrowing. That legislation is working. It is capping government borrowing. I think these filthy pigs should just leave the capitol and go home. They have bankrupted the country and everything they are working on tonight preserves the status quo. Its tax, borrow, print into oblivion...
214 posted on 07/28/2011 10:03:54 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: silentknight

The impasse we’re at will ensure that our credit rating is downrated and that interest rates will skyrocket as the market tanks. We’re toast and screwed. But then....I knew that as soon as Obama’s 2008 win was made official.

Our government is now dysfunctional. And I don’t see it getting any better ......ever...at this point.


215 posted on 07/28/2011 10:08:19 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: RitaOK; kristinn
Yes, amen!

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven. -2 Chronicles 7:14

216 posted on 07/28/2011 10:09:29 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: keeper53

“I don’t remember being so ashamed of the Republican party in a long time... the lack of any respect for others, like John Boehner, is appalling. Tea party backers — why don’t you form your own political party? You are an embarassment to may Republicans.”

The lack of respect for the American taxpayer is more appalling. Boehner and the zoo in Congress work for us.

You want respect...you give respect. You don’t steal people’s money like the Soc Sec program and spend it on every gluttonous program that you think will get you elected. We entrust these people with our lives and the lives of our families......the life and soul of our country hangs in the balance.

So you go join the dems or independents or whatever you need to...but, you won’t outrun what these politicians are doing to us.

As for the Tea Party, they aren’t going anywhere. This is just the beginning.


217 posted on 07/28/2011 10:09:42 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (BOYCOTT NEVADA...!!!!)
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To: silentknight
3. All cuts suggested in the most liberal or conservative bills are FAR FAR FAR - light years away - from what we need.

What no one is recognizing is that these are NOT CUTS - they are cuts in the rate of spending increases planned over the next decade. NO CUTS.
218 posted on 07/28/2011 10:18:23 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

Your point is so important, I am reiterating it!


3. All cuts suggested in the most liberal or conservative bills are FAR FAR FAR - light years away - from what we need.

What no one is recognizing is that these are NOT CUTS - they are cuts in the rate of spending increases planned over the next decade. NO CUTS.


219 posted on 07/28/2011 10:19:58 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Even former Mexican President Fox said on tonight on Cable that “The US is Broke, if it were a business”

Well, then where was he all those years he was President and his own people were rushing across the border to help bankrupt the U.S.?

Sorry, as a legal American citizen, I don't need a lecture from present or former Mexican leaders. Illegal immigration, and all of the freebies that go along with successfully entering the U.S. illegally, explain, in large part, the debt problem we now face.

220 posted on 07/28/2011 10:21:11 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
My diet is being helped by these innovative interrogatories!
221 posted on 07/28/2011 10:26:03 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: Cheerio

As some suggest, Dick Morris among others, when and if August 2 comes and goes with no dreaded immediate DEPRESSION, Obama and the creepy democrats at Treasury and in Congress will be utterly exposed for the scare tactics and fear mongering. All comes down to arithmetic, people do not trust the media, Obama has been properly placed on the curb, so why would Republicans lose the rest of the battle over obvious lies, threats and over fear among even some Republicans. People can add and subtract for themselves.


222 posted on 07/28/2011 10:27:38 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: Mariner

Right on...and one of the biggest disappointments of this chaotic evening...


223 posted on 07/28/2011 10:28:29 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: boatbums

Well, I surely hope the ACLU doesn’t get wind of such a travesty..../s


224 posted on 07/28/2011 10:30:16 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

“I don’t remember being so ashamed of the Republican party in a long time... the lack of any respect for others, like John Boehner, is appalling.”
Where is this quote from?


225 posted on 07/28/2011 10:30:23 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Earth first! We can log the other planets later")
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

Nevermind. Found it.


226 posted on 07/28/2011 10:32:55 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Earth first! We can log the other planets later")
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To: REDWOOD99

That was from Post #87.


227 posted on 07/28/2011 10:34:37 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Truth is a Weapon

No, because the Senate GOP knows that if they pass just anything it won’t survive the reconciliation process in the House, especially if according to your scenario even Boehner’s bill doesn’t pass...why then would the House pass the Reid bill?


228 posted on 07/28/2011 10:35:55 PM PDT by Justice
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To: kevao

Thanks! I thought it was an elected Schmoe.


229 posted on 07/28/2011 10:42:01 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Earth first! We can log the other planets later")
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To: Justice
No, because the Senate GOP knows that if they pass just anything it won’t survive the reconciliation process in the House, especially if according to your scenario even Boehner’s bill doesn’t pass...why then would the House pass the Reid bill?

Once the bill has Reid's name on it instead of Boehner's and comes back to the Congress it will get most or all of the Democrats votes and it will need only 25-35 wobbly (RINO) Republicans for passage.

230 posted on 07/28/2011 10:44:12 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: Principled

Stick with Cut, Cap & Balance-!!! The Senate has YET to vote on it- as time grows short, obama and the dems won’t have any CHOICE but to pass it or !=gasp=! default-!!!


231 posted on 07/28/2011 10:44:26 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: Principled

Stick with Cut, Cap & Balance-!!! The Senate has YET to vote on it- as time grows short, obama and the dems won’t have any CHOICE but to pass it or !=gasp=! default-!!!


232 posted on 07/28/2011 10:44:36 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: kristinn
The socialist bomb is ticking;
We should all stand against such thinking!

The dept is adding up;
As our children grow up;

And leave them with a future that is now quickly sinking.

233 posted on 07/28/2011 10:46:41 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever.)
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To: A Navy Vet
As the man said, In Chaos there is Opportunity”.
The bad is piling up but there is always Hope.
234 posted on 07/28/2011 10:51:38 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: REDWOOD99

Nope, just a RINO in meltdown mode.


235 posted on 07/28/2011 10:53:50 PM PDT by kevao
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To: OldDeckHand; sickoflibs; kristinn; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup

Let’s say Boehner needs 2 more YES votes but there are 5 Tea Partiers voting NO. Suppose those 5 abstain from this vote, and the others stay the same, and now he has more YES votes than NO. Doesn’t the bill pass?

Those NO voters would have to decide if an abstention contradicted the promises they made to the voters.

I understand that they are trying to achieve real spending cuts, but that is hard to do when the enemy controls the senate and presidency. I am concerned that they will give Obama a weapon for 2012, Right now Obama owns the economy, but the GOP could share that ownership if they are not careful.


236 posted on 07/28/2011 10:55:48 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: imjimbo
Stick with Cut, Cap & Balance-!!!

With its $2.4 TRILLION dollar increase in the debt ceiling? Why?

237 posted on 07/28/2011 10:58:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For decades they've kicked the can down the road. Sorry, but there's no more road.)
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To: kristinn
If I understood Limbaugh this morning, he was saying that it doesn't matter what the Republicans pass in the House because the Democrats will gut the bill by amending it into a shell bill like they did with the health care reform bill? Reid will then make it into whatever he wants and send it back to the House where Obama will use Boehner's words against him to pressure him to pass the Senate bill?

-PJ

238 posted on 07/28/2011 11:06:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: kristinn

Thanks for the education about the rule change.


239 posted on 07/28/2011 11:07:57 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Principled

Don’t you think Reid will do that with whatever is sent over?

I do.


240 posted on 07/28/2011 11:08:57 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Principled

Why won’t Reid just water down CCB and send it back?

Because the RAT Senators would have to vote on a watered down
CCB Bill to send it back to the house.


241 posted on 07/28/2011 11:16:06 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: RKBA Democrat

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/07/whipping-the-bo.php


242 posted on 07/28/2011 11:19:42 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Forget impeachment- Extradite obama, biden, napolitano, muller, clinton and holder. Country saved!)
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To: tennmountainman
"Levin, in my opinion has had his finest hours ever on this issues. He is bold, smart, straightforward and unafraid. "

I agree, Levin is fun to listen to, but the reality is that the re-pubics are bound by there addiction as much as are the democ-rats,

expecting congress to adopt a balanced budget doctrine is like expecting a heroine addict to quit cold turkey because it is making him go broke....aint gonna happen, there will definitly be a massive monumental debt limit increase, I'd bet the farm on it

243 posted on 07/28/2011 11:24:15 PM PDT by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: Mariner

That West fella who calls himself a Colonel too

West just made the biggest mistake of his soon to be short career.
Nice man, War Hero. But Played by Bonehead. First he came out in support of Boneheads plan, before the CBO scored the plan.
After the defective numbers came out on Boneheads plan West looked like a fool.
Even after CBO scored the Bill, West was out front promoting the bill.
Then, the bottom falls out on the vote and it is postponed. So a lot of people are gonna be asking what Bonehead offered for his vote.
Nice man, brave war hero, but will have a short shelf life in Congress.


244 posted on 07/28/2011 11:30:07 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: KTM rider
there will definitly be a massive monumental debt limit increase, I'd bet the farm on it

Ya think?

In light of the fact that the leaders of the Democrat AND the Republican parties have been pushing a massive monumental increase in the debt limit FROM DAY ONE, and that EVERY SINGLE "PLAN" either party has offered does exactly that, I'd say that about the safest bet around.

Of course even if you win the bet eventually they will own the farm anyhow.

245 posted on 07/28/2011 11:30:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For decades they've kicked the can down the road. Sorry, but there's no more road.)
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To: tennmountainman

It’ll prob be so lame it’ll get Dem support. Boehner is going to flush the tea party down the toilet on the next deal, count on it.


246 posted on 07/28/2011 11:32:32 PM PDT by rjeffries
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To: tennmountainman

I knew he was a dud all along. He makes exceptions on abortion.

He voted early on to fund Obama’s school medical clinics, which are nothing more than recruitment centers for the Planned Parenthood killing centers.


247 posted on 07/28/2011 11:33:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For decades they've kicked the can down the road. Sorry, but there's no more road.)
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To: rjeffries
Boehner is going to flush the tea party down the toilet on the next deal, count on it.

Boehner "flushed" the Tea Party down the toilet the first day the freshmen arrived on the Hill, when he lectured them on how they had to be "adults" and support raising the debt ceiling.

248 posted on 07/28/2011 11:35:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For decades they've kicked the can down the road. Sorry, but there's no more road.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
best assessment ever , spot on in a nutshell

however, I am afraid that if the republicans held the senate, there would be no bid for a balanced budget or pullback of spending at all, they would just say "getterdun" anyway, just not as huge and extreme as the Obama locust swarm spending

249 posted on 07/28/2011 11:36:07 PM PDT by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Reid will then make it into whatever he wants and send it back to the House where Obama will use Boehner’s words against him to pressure him to pass the Senate bill?

Yeppers, Bonehead is about be played by Reid.


250 posted on 07/28/2011 11:37:23 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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