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No Vote Tonight on Boehner Bill
The Washington Times via Twitter ^ | Thursday, July 28, 2011 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 07/28/2011 7:45:36 PM PDT by kristinn

McCarthy said no vote tonight half a minute ago via Echofon


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; beohnerbill; boehner; debtceiling; default; heldtheline; kickthecan; noboner; novotetonight; ponzi
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To: kristinn

There’s still hope. Hold strong Tea Party House Republicans. The American People are with you.


51 posted on 07/28/2011 7:58:13 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: silentknight
Except for a few forlorn souls in the House, this whole fiasco is NOTHING but theater, a sham. But what the hell, why not? The American taxpayer is in the minority in this country.
52 posted on 07/28/2011 7:58:13 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
So the Obster isn't gonna get his b-day present after all...
53 posted on 07/28/2011 7:58:13 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: kristinn

” If Boehner bill fails, it makes it trickier for anything to get through Senate. Dems need it as a vehicle. 4 minutes ago via web.” <<<<

The dang senate can go dig out the CC&B and live with that which is all we should have gone with in the first place!
THIS IS WONDERFUL, I think. There were NO CUTS in Boehner’s paper tiger.


54 posted on 07/28/2011 7:58:19 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: kristinn

May God bless the patriot Tea Party folks who won’t cave!!! :)


55 posted on 07/28/2011 7:58:44 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Hieronymus
how will McConnell help him?

McConnell's moving ahead to prepare a bill that can be reconciled.

56 posted on 07/28/2011 7:58:48 PM PDT by Justice
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To: Soul Seeker

I heard on the radio they went to the House member chapel and prayed together earlier this evening.


57 posted on 07/28/2011 7:59:19 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: weston

“Need to throw this all into Dingy Harry’s lap. Tell him if he doesn’t like how things are going in the House to get off his ass and pass something in the Senate!”

I believe the reason is all budget bill have to start in the house.

Now I agree they could still put something together and hand it to the house but they do not want to do that because it will put focus on them.


58 posted on 07/28/2011 7:59:20 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: silentknight
There is no way they are not going to raise the ceiling.

True.

There is no way they are going to cut trillions from the budget.

Not all at once anyway. Not unless you get into SS, MC.

Nothing being discussed comes ANYWHERE CLOSE to what is needed to be done.

CCB does. It needs a do over. It will pass the Senate.

59 posted on 07/28/2011 8:00:07 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Tuxedo

“No more compromises. The Senate can debate CCB. The House has done its job.”

Agree 100%. Boehner is needlessly muddying the waters with his follow-on legislative blunders.


60 posted on 07/28/2011 8:00:07 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Soul Seeker

We can only hope. I want them to mean what they do, not just do it for re-election. The time has come for these people.


61 posted on 07/28/2011 8:00:11 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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To: silentknight

Do you scream for your wife when you see a mouse?

Sometimes MEN have to stand up and do the brave thing!

Stop helping the RATS!


62 posted on 07/28/2011 8:00:40 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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To: RitaOK

For the flipping like of me I don’t understand why the House just didn’t leave town after passing CC&B. Make the Senate do its job.


63 posted on 07/28/2011 8:00:47 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: kristinn

And now the debt ceiling will be raised with a bill friendly to Reid and even Pelosi. The Republican Speaker of the House is disgraced by his caucus and will see his influence in the future reduced,maybe to insignificance.That’s a very good day’s work.


64 posted on 07/28/2011 8:00:54 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: Hieronymus
amendment will be necessary to put it over the top.

REPEAL OBAMACARE!

Attach to every bill.
65 posted on 07/28/2011 8:01:07 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: silentknight

You wrote: “Nothing being discussed comes ANYWHERE CLOSE to what is needed to be done.”

It’s even worse than many people are willing to admit:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-debt-ceiling-debacle-is-only-the-beginning-of-a-major-fiscal-crisis-2011-7


66 posted on 07/28/2011 8:01:28 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Re-Focus: TEA means the "Taxed Enough Already" Grass-Roots Movement)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Kinda what I was sayin’.


67 posted on 07/28/2011 8:01:33 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: mardi59

Yes he did. My apology for not giving Rush credit as well.
However, I do like Levin’s no hold bared thoughts


68 posted on 07/28/2011 8:01:44 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: PetroniDE

Do you know who? Old guard standing strong?

Mine is suppose to be s Conservative and has an ok record but still would not answer my question as to where he stood as of this afternoon. (Jack Kingston) Looking at his web page I say he caved days ago if he even held any.


69 posted on 07/28/2011 8:01:55 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: tennmountainman

McConnell can’t help him. The timing is interesting though.


70 posted on 07/28/2011 8:02:19 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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To: Hieronymus
But if Boehner either doesn’t have the votes or barely has the votes, how will McConnell help him?

McConnell will help to sell Boehner out.

71 posted on 07/28/2011 8:02:28 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They're socialists don't call them liberals)
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To: silentknight

What is needed to be done, from the very start, is NOTHING.
The debt limit ‘crisis’ is a sham. When you run your credit cards to the max, you stop spending. That’s what they are afraid of. Tax revenue will still come in and we service our current debt affordably. They are terrified that when the debt ceiling is hit, people will see that the world doesnt stop, the money still taken from their paychecks still gets spent, and we have been lied to for decades.........


72 posted on 07/28/2011 8:02:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: shadeaud

So now Reid will pass what he wants in the Senate. He will send it to the House and the Dems will pass it with 25 GOP detectors. Boehner won’t be able to stop them. He can’t hold the caucus together. The Dems have no fear of him now.


73 posted on 07/28/2011 8:02:48 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: jafojeffsurf

As long as we all realize that there will NEVER be a bill brought up that any of us will support or like. NOTHING they can do will fix our problem.

1. They will not lower the ceiling
2. They WILL raise the ceiling
3. All cuts suggested in the most liberal or conservative bills are FAR FAR FAR - light years away - from what we need.
4. We will grow deeper in debt over the coming years - welllllll into the trillions of dollars.

Unless we have a total and complete collapse of the system or a total and complete revolution then we are going to lose the America we now know.

We already are losing the America we now know.


74 posted on 07/28/2011 8:02:56 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: jafojeffsurf

As long as we all realize that there will NEVER be a bill brought up that any of us will support or like. NOTHING they can do will fix our problem.

1. They will not lower the ceiling
2. They WILL raise the ceiling
3. All cuts suggested in the most liberal or conservative bills are FAR FAR FAR - light years away - from what we need.
4. We will grow deeper in debt over the coming years - welllllll into the trillions of dollars.

Unless we have a total and complete collapse of the system or a total and complete revolution then we are going to lose the America we now know.

We already are losing the America we now know.


75 posted on 07/28/2011 8:03:11 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: xkaydet65

“The Republican Speaker of the House is disgraced by his caucus and will see his influence in the future reduced,maybe to insignificance.”

We can only hope.


76 posted on 07/28/2011 8:03:19 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Boehner resign!)
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To: Roccus
Really? Looks to me like he hasn't actually compromised on one dang thing considering the senate has vowed to kill his plan on arrival. He has played a good game imo. Boehner has his own style of leadership. I think it has been effective. so far.
77 posted on 07/28/2011 8:03:25 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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Stay alert, folks. Deception is an acceptable tactic to these jerks.


78 posted on 07/28/2011 8:03:36 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: tennmountainman

I love the Great One. Both are awesome.


79 posted on 07/28/2011 8:04:16 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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To: ZX12R
Very complicated is right! I though I understood what was going on up in DC but the more zig zags happen the more confused I get. Someone wake me when it's over!
80 posted on 07/28/2011 8:04:38 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Principled

Rs need to pass something better anyway - but they need to have something in Reid’s lap. Can’t let the Dems or McConnell take over.

If u have not heard, Reid is going to take Boneheads bill, water it down and send it back over to the house. The foolish folks who supported this bill are about to be played.


81 posted on 07/28/2011 8:04:47 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Truth is a Weapon
Reid will pass what he wants in the Senate.

He needs 7 Repubs so he can't pass just anything.

82 posted on 07/28/2011 8:04:54 PM PDT by Justice
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To: mewzilla
If this passes it will do for the tea party what the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska act did for the GOP.

Thanks for making me look it up. I hope you are right!

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas-Nebraska_Act:

The Kansas–Nebraska Act of 1854 (10 Stat. 277) created the territories of Kansas and Nebraska, opened new lands that would help settlement in them, repealed the Missouri Compromise of 1820, and allowed settlers in those territories to determine if they would allow slavery within their boundaries and to settle there. The initial purpose of the Kansas–Nebraska Act was to create opportunities for a Mideastern Transcontinental Railroad. It became problematic when popular sovereignty was written into the proposal. The act was designed by Democratic Senator Stephen A. Douglas of Illinois. The act established that settlers could vote to decide whether to allow slavery, in the name of popular sovereignty or rule of the people. Douglas hoped that would ease relations between the North and the South, because the South could expand slavery to new territories but the North still had the right to abolish slavery in its states. Instead, opponents denounced the law as a concession to the slave power of the South. The new Republican Party, which was created in opposition to the act, aimed to stop the expansion of slavery and soon emerged as the dominant force throughout the North.

83 posted on 07/28/2011 8:05:28 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

“The Dems have no fear of him now.”

They never did.


84 posted on 07/28/2011 8:05:48 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Boehner resign!)
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To: xkaydet65

Yes, they are laughing at us.

But DeMint or someone needs to take John Boy aside and tell him to resubmit CCB. So while damaged, it could be salvaged. I won’t hold my breath.


85 posted on 07/28/2011 8:05:58 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Starboard
CCB to the US Senate.

Up or Down Vote.

If UP, then to the President.

Sign the sonofabitch, Kenyan.

Either Sign or Veto it, you moron.

VETO AT YOUR OWN POLITICAL PERIL.

It's rather simple. August 2nd is not the end of the Country.

Then the Republic takes a.... well I will stop here for now, its late.

PS Each and every 2-12 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WORTH THEIR SALT SHOULD HAVE A DEFINITIVE PRINTED STATEMENT AND PRESS CONFERENCE ON THIS ISSUE TOMORROW MORNING. I for one know people like Cain, Bachmann, Santorum will do it. Palin should too, in the race or not.

86 posted on 07/28/2011 8:06:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain should increase security as Islamists would "fatwah" him for telling the truth on them.)
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To: kristinn

I don’t remember being so ashamed of the Republican party in a long time... the lack of any respect for others, like John Boehner, is appalling.

I think I have had it, and I will be registering as Independent as soon as I can...

Tea party backers — why don’t you form your own political party? You are an embarassment to may Republicans.


87 posted on 07/28/2011 8:06:52 PM PDT by keeper53
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To: silentknight

“There is no way they are going to cut trillions from the budget. Just is not going to happen.”

Good post. Politicians spend money; that is what they do and all they know. Fiscal responsibility is simply not in their DNA. They will raise the debt ceiling, guaranteed.

As Margaret Thatcher said, eventually they will run out of other people’s money. Then the Great Government Ponzi Scheme will collapse.


88 posted on 07/28/2011 8:07:03 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: AmericanInTokyo
National Journal's Major Garrett via Twitter:

House Rules will meet tonight at 11 p.m. EDT. It will grant "same day" authority for re-drafted Boehner bill. Floor vote Friday. 7 minutes ago via TweetDeck

89 posted on 07/28/2011 8:07:29 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: tennmountainman

“Bonehead says it’s because they are tweeking the bill again.”

Ha! There’s not enough TURD POLISH in existence to accomplish that!


90 posted on 07/28/2011 8:08:13 PM PDT by navydad
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To: AmericanInTokyo

August 2nd in reality is nothing. It was a date pulled out of Obama’s butt. No kidding.

They keep changing the date. What is this - the fourth date they tried to stick to a wall?

I heard today the date has been moved until the middle of August - end of August. Who knows.

The August 2nd date is a psychological date Obama is trying to scare everyone with. The markets and other.

Sad but true. The man knows no bounds. His evil is purposeful.


91 posted on 07/28/2011 8:08:50 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Democrat radical on CNN is now doing "homekoroshi" 褒め殺し(sarcastic, Japanese political tactic) by praising Boehner and dissing "radical Republican tea partiers".

Typical CNN.

Thanks for educating me on "homekoroshi"!

92 posted on 07/28/2011 8:09:13 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“Even former Mexican President Fox said on tonight on Cable that “The US is Broke, if it were a business””

This is one time that I wouldn’t mind seeing a Mexican president criticize the US in front of the US Congress.


93 posted on 07/28/2011 8:09:34 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: RC one

I think it has been effective. so far.

U won’t be saying that Tomorrow. Reid will take Boneheads bill or something like it but watered down, and send it back to the House.
Back in Boneheads court. U are about to be played. Get ready for it.


94 posted on 07/28/2011 8:09:34 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: RC one

I agree. There is so much going on behind the scenes, we’ll never know all of it.


95 posted on 07/28/2011 8:10:21 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Ditter
Very complicated is right! I though I understood what was going on up in DC but the more zig zags happen the more confused I get. Someone wake me when it's over!

That's about how I feel too. I guess it's over for the night anyway, so I'll hit the sack and try to rediscover where we are in the morning. Prayers for the right things to happen for America.
96 posted on 07/28/2011 8:10:23 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: RC one

“Looks to me like he hasn’t actually compromised on one dang thing considering the senate has vowed to kill his plan on arrival.”

So. You think the conservative backlash is a feint? Try hard to get a compromise bill through...but gosh, just can’t muster the votes due those rascally tea partiers?


97 posted on 07/28/2011 8:10:30 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Boehner resign!)
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To: RC one

” Boehner has his own style of leadership. I think it has been effective. so far. “ <<<<

Boehner messed up the first compromise, remember? The supposed cuts ranked with about a house payment it turned out. The caucus said that would never happen to them again. Most of them meant it. Boehner should have left Cut Cap & Balance on the senate table and walked. But no, he has us compromising not with the democrats who are smart enough to keep quiet, but with ourselves, downward from CC&B. With NO CUTS. Cuts in GROWTH are not cuts.


98 posted on 07/28/2011 8:10:36 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: kristinn

What the hell does it mean?


99 posted on 07/28/2011 8:10:50 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: RKBA Democrat
I read through this and other threads tonight and one word I haven't seen is Obama or even a WH spokesman.

Obama has been avoided like a large roadkill. Congressional democrats have realized they are chained to a political corpse and now it's every rat for themselves.

Now is not the time to throw them a life preserver.

100 posted on 07/28/2011 8:10:55 PM PDT by AU72
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