Skip to comments.Support shifts as Boehner adds balanced-budget amendment
Posted on 07/29/2011 9:33:47 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
House Republicans will link passage of a balanced-budget amendment to Speaker John Boehners (R-Ohio) last-ditch debt-ceiling plan, which GOP lawmakers said would move the measure to passage in a high-stakes vote later on Friday.
Republican lawmakers voiced confidence the enhanced bill would pass muster with conservatives, as Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) predicted the balanced-budget amendment change would bring 10 to 20 more GOP members on board.
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The GOP had best learn to play hard ball with the members it has now, because I don’t see them getting too many more.
TEA party yes...GOP not so much.
What’s the big deal about the House passing this. The buffoons in the Senate said they aren’t going to pass it and the Kenyan said he’d veto it. This is nothing but an exercise in stupid.
God Bless them! This is about saving our Constitutional Republic from a bunch of commie thugs and it is time to put it all on the line.
Let the record show that OBAMA and his socialist minions trashed what real Americans want and need for their country. And there is no doubt.
All a balanced budget amendment does is makes you have a balanced plan. But that plan can include as much borrowing as you like. And that plan can include overly rosy projections on everything.
It doesn’t make you live within in your means. And what’s the penalty if congress doesn’t reach an agreement on a balanced budget?
No wonder Reid and Chuckie just now came front and center.
Besides, a BBA is a waste of time. Any BBA which could pass Congress will have enough loopholes to make it meaningless.
The States need to amend the Constitution to extend the gold and silver clause in Article I section 10 to the Federal government, and a balanced budget will be the result.
>>Whats the big deal about the House passing this. The buffoons in the Senate said they arent going to pass it and the Kenyan said hed veto it. This is nothing but an exercise in stupid.<<
You have to hit the ball into the other court and the opponent bears responsibility for what they do with it. At least this one has some good top-spin.
Hot damn. Now pass it.
then THEY own it. Not us. They don’t WANT to own it. Screw them.
I still believe this will fail in the Senate...More so with this amendment to the bill...
I had heard there was a convention of agreement in the GOP circles up there that the BBA was going to be presented as a stand alone bill...
I think they are reaching, but at least we’ll better know what the outcome is going to be, and that has got to pizz the WH off to no end...
They’ll (dems and the WH) can’t really manipulate the demise of the BBS without getting egg on their faces...I think even the stupid people voting base they have won’t like that part of the deal...
All in all it is coming to a head, and this pimple is going to pop, and it ain’t going to be pretty...
Just my opinion...
Since we know the Liberals will not even discuss any Boehner plan, why not use the opportunity to present a consolidated position?
Should have done this right from the start.
No. As Reagan proved, symbolism is important.
This is another stupid trick.
We’ll get a much larger debt limit, moved out of the way for Obama’s reelection campaign, more taxes, more spending.
Any budget cut will be promised for some other Congress to ignore, and a “balanced budget amendment” to be put off for endless House votes and eventually, years from now, ratification by the States. In terms of the current spending problem, “never”.
A statutory budget cut- passed as a bill by Congress- will happen. Promising to make some future annual budget lower carries no legal weight and as we have seen over the last 40 or so years won’t ever happen.
Republicans keep compromising-- and for what?? "no good deed" and all that.
Naturally the Kenyan will veto it - - the whole purpose of the Balanced Budget Amendment is to rein in and stop people like Ubama and his ilk. The important thing is that he actually be forced to veto it for the whole nation to see. And that's after the Senate rats have to go on record. See, Reid and his scumbags don't even want to have to vote on a Balanced Budget Amendment. They need to be forced to do so.
In CCB, spending is capped to avoid the simple politician's move to raise taxes. In CCB, if no agreement is reached to balance, automatic across-the-board cuts take place to reach balance.
I don't know what this most recent incarnation has in it yet.
Good point, instead, the House should just raise the debt limit by $2.5 trillion and agree to whatever else Obama and Reid decide they want.
Yes. Tennis anyone?
It’s a scam.
It’s nothing but meaningless political cover for Republicans for the next election, nothing else.
Watch the bottom line, which is how much, if any, they raise the debt ceiling. Nothing else is worth a bucket of warm spit.
“and the Kenyan said hed veto it. “
he can veto the spending bill, but he has no role in a constitutional amendment. teh joint congressional amendment goes to the States through the National Archivist, for ratification.
boner passes this - and we look better
THEN THE DEMOCRAPS HAVE TO VOTE IT DOWN~!!!
and even if they were to pass it
OBAMA HAS TO VETO IT~!!
HA HA HA HA HA
ut’s not CC and B but its better
Gees! This sounds like Groundhog Day. The House has already passed and sent to the Senate One of these! Boehner and crew needs to tell Harry and Berry, you already got a bill you Tabled. Vote on what you got ‘cause we goin’ home!
-- Thomas Jefferson (Letter of November 26th, 1798)
"I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution ... taking from the federal government their power of borrowing."
-- Thomas Jefferson (Letter of November 26th, 1798)
Purely symbolic, but they should just pass something and get on with it. We look like idiots enough as it is, and Bambi and the Dems are already jeering and saying they’ll just have to “move on” without a bill from the House.
And if you think they can’t do it, you don’t know how much Obama hates our constitutional procedures. And how easy it is for him to ignore them, because he’s never held accountable. He has wanted to issue his own “proclamation” on this anyway, and the House’s inability to produce a bill has given him perfect cover.
This is nothing but an exercise in stupid(y).
We know exactly what Obama’s mob will do. This will put it all on the record that the socialist rats trashed EVERYTHING that America needs to solve our economic (and political) problems. Which, of course, was all created and presented by the Repubs!
Then it will be time for Obama and his ilk to stand and deliver. He has put forth nothing tangible as a solution -— just more socialist taxation and spending would be in line with his agenda of ruining the free, democratic system, including its capitalist economy, in America. We sit on the brink.
Boenher should go before the cameras and request an open debate, in front of the American people and have it live on CSpan 1 or 2. Not to talk about Bush, not to talk about Reagan, nothing but the current situation. Let the American people decide who is right or wrong.
So you’re a big help.
The House shouldn’t pass anything? Although an argument could be made that they did pass CCB and the Senate tabled it. If the House isn’t going to stand on the principle of what it passed, then they have to bring up something else.
I’m so proud of the Conservative Tea Party stalwarts currently holding the line. 67% of this country thinks the federal government should have to live with a balanced budget. Just like all states have to do, just like all us peons have to do. No entity, in the laws of economics, should be allowed to constantly spend more than they bring in. Lines of credit are fine but restraint.
We got a president who increased the debt limit from ten trillion to 14 trillion. and now he asks for the right to raise it to 17 plus trillion.
The pubs got a winner here but they don’t want to fight the battle. Scuse...the GOP Blue Blood Ruling Class elite.
Instead they make fun of us silly morons who want to keep that communist in the WH from dismantling and destroying this country. They have spines of rubber.
Don’t tell us to wait until the pubs own all the parts of the gubmint. Cause when we do, and we shall I am sure, we might have 70 senators, the prez, and 325 reps. Then they’ll ask us to wait until a second term for the repub prez, just to make sure, for about ten more senators to shore it up, and maybe fifty more reps to make it solid.
They’ll push it off again because they really don’t want to fight the war. They only want the cocktail party invites, cameras spanning their gorgeous bods slowly and with honor...THE HELL WITH US!
It’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Balancing the budget....damn what a concept.
I personally against any ammendent to the Constitution, Once they get into it they will totally destroy it. Politions have been wanting a Con Con for years
He can’t veto the balanced budget amendment. It must go to he states. He is screwed if it passes. THAT is why the senate will kill it...unless any democrats still care one iota about their country.
Repubics better get it through their stupid heads!....Deal with the Tea Party or get buried by it!
If the House were to pass this “Boehner” bill, what’s to keep Reid and Senate dems from gutting it, passing it, and then punting it back to the House right before August 2nd, saying ok we’ve passed the Boehner bill with some minor changes, now in the spirit of compromise, if the House doesn’t hurry up and pass it, it will be the House and GOP’s fault that we go into default? Isn’t this what Rush was essentially saying yesterday?
And, as far as attempting to 'save the Republic', you should give that one a rest as well. There are only a few possible outcomes, none of them pleasant, at this juncture:
Hussein (banks) rules by decree;
The joint chiefs finally act;
States secede, civil war ensues
Once a democratic republic gets this far down the path to ruin, it never recovers until a complete reset is initiated.
Well there you go...even MORE reason for the rubber-spined Blue Blood Ruling Class elite to do nothing but quake and shake in fear. Ammend the constitution? Insert looks or horror and fear here.
Can't DO THAT....shake, quiver...CAN'T DO THAT!!!
You'll need to scroll for the Friday update which only adds the Balanced Budget Amendment requirement.
Get the RATs on record as being against a Balanced Budget Amendment, and then have every GOP member in the country hammer them over it.
It only works if every GOP member is on the same page and they blast the RATs relentlessly, but it CAN work. Do we have the spine to do it?
Want to lock spending in at 19 or 18 % of GDP when it should never have exceeded 10%?
Just a thought.
“All a balanced budget amendment does is makes you have a balanced plan. But that plan can include as much borrowing as you like. And that plan can include overly rosy projections on everything.”
Apparently many people don’t realize that. It gives certain republicans a great opportunity for political posturing, though, doesn’t it?
To carry your analogy further, what happens if you hit it right in the center of your opponent's service court and your opponent and the official both yell "OUT" without even trying to return it?
Get out the Vaseline. No definition of balanced budget amendment.