Skip to comments.Turkish Chief of General Staff, top commanders resign amid controversy
Posted on 07/29/2011 9:41:16 AM PDT by jhpigott
Chief of General Staff Isik Kosaner and commanders of air forces, navy and land forces have resigned from their positions amid controversy on appointment of generals.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier ruled out any prospects of tensions between the government and the military at a Supreme Military Council (YAS) meeting slated for Monday, saying that the decisions to be made at the meeting will be in accordance with the law.
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The last bulwark against an Islamist Turkey has just crumbled.
It’s not the best way to run a nation, but Turkey would not have made it as far as it has without the military stepping in and ensuring the state keeps to the vision Ataturk set down.
First Egypt, now Turkey - smooth move, Obama
I have to wonder how this affect Turkey’s participation in the F-35 development consortium.
Turkey is going all out Islamic Republic. Now that they got rid of the last road block stopping them. Ergo has been stacking radical Islamicists for years in the military & now the mass resignation which means a slow death for the republic. Ataturk is spinning in his grave...
By any other name, the return of the Ottomans.
Well, another reason to dissolve NATO
The F-35 T will have the prayer rug floormat option?
Unless it means the 'deep state' is going to move against the Islamists, and the current leadership was not prepared to do it.
Too little information is available here to know.
“Too little information is available here to know. “
Yup! I’ll call my BIL this evening and see what he thinks. He’s just back from 2 months there.
If the Islamists take charge and try to impose Sharia law, then the economy will implode. People don't behave nicely when they used to be middle-class and suddenly find themselves poor.
Turkey is a remarkable example that should be held up for the failure of “secular government in an Islamic nation” that it is.
Infidels: freepmail me if you want on or off this list.
The Islamist takeover excellerates. Here's a more comprehensible wrap-up from WSJ:
" Chief of General Staff Isik Kosaner asked to leave because he deemed it necessary, the state news agency Anatolia reported from Ankara, citing no one. The chiefs of the army, air force and navy announced their resignations soon after, the NTV news channel reported. Erdogan, re-elected to a third term in office in June, has reduced the secularist armed forces power over Turkish politics since he came to power in 2002. His party was formed after the closure of an Islamist party. More than 40 generals are under arrest after prosecutors alleged that they planned bomb attacks to undermine Erdogans administration. The resignations are unprecedented and the situation is extremely fluid, Inan Demir, chief economist at Finansbank AS in Istanbul, said in an e-mailed comment. The balance of power has shifted decidedly in favor of the government over the recent years, which could limit the fallout from the resignations. Turkeys lira currency weakened as much as 1.3 percent to 1.6991 per dollar in Istanbul, heading for its biggest drop in a week. Bond and stock markets were closed. Chaotic Things look chaotic, Suha Yaygin, deputy chief of emerging markets at Toronto-Dominion Bank in London, said in e- mailed comments. Theres never been such a thing in the history of Turkey. The lira could fall below 1.70 again. Members of Erdogans Justice and Development Party contacted by telephone declined to comment. Todays resignations followed a meeting in Ankara between Kosaner, Erdogan and President Abdullah Gul to discuss promotions of senior military staff, Anatolia said. Erdogan was pushing to force the retirement of the generals and admirals who are jailed as part of the trials, according to a report in Cumhuriyet newspaper on July 5. None of them have been convicted." Turkey's Chief of the General Staff, Gen. Isik Kosaner, retired from his post Friday in a surprise decision, the state news agency Anadolu Ajansi said, triggering a fall in the Turkish currency, the lira. It wasn't immediately clear why Gen. Kosaner made the move, but there has been running tension between Turkey's Islamic-leaning government and the military. The military has also come under criticism lately for a clash with Kurdish guerrillas in which 13 soldiers were killed. The Turkish lira fell from 1.677 to the US dollar to as low as 1.698 on the news Friday evening. In a sign of the confusion surrounding Gen. Kosaner's move, Anadolu Ajansi initially reported that the country's top military official had resigned "because he deemed it necessary," before printing a correction and saying he had submitted a request for early retirement. CNN Turk television reported that the heads of the Turkish land forces and of the Navy also resigned, but that couldn't be confirmed immediately. No statement was posted on the website of the general staff. Gen. Kosaner's decision came after a meeting with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and President Abdullah Gul on Friday morning, as they prepared for a semiannual four-day session of the military's joint military-government council, known by its acronym YAS, next week. The YAS decides all senior military appointments. Gen. Kosaner was known as a hardliner within the military and got the top job at a tense session of the YAS last August, where the government excluded a number of top generals from promotion, as they were defendants in an unresolved case accusing them of plotting to overthrow the government. According to local media reports, the prime minister and president had been due Friday to discuss with Gen. Kosaner the position of officers still jailed pending trial in the case, known as Sledgehammer, after the plot name. They were also due to discuss Kurdish terrorism and the incident in which the 13 soldiers died earlier this month."
Islamists and Stalinists are birds of a feather.
Turkey’s is going over the precipice if it’s not long gone already.
Wish I didn’t have the same perception. Doesn’t look good.
“The word of the LORD came to me: Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you. Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.” Ezekiel 38:1-9
“And I will send a fire on Magog and among those that dwell securely in the isles; and they shall know that I am the Lord.” Ezekiel 39:6
The Islamists have won
Right. It can’t be good because these are the guys who would be the best candidates to undertake a coup against the Islamist nutjobs who currently run the country. The Islamization of the army continues.
And that applies to recent events exactly how?
This might be a good time for Russia to try just ONE more time...
Good news for islamic caliphate idiots, bad news for freedom.
The interior always has been a hell-hole.
Many Biblical scholars think Gog and Magog is Turkey, but couldn’t understand how, as Turkey is about the only Islamic country that doesn’t hate (well, until recently) Israel, could be drawn to attack them. Folks said the generals wouldn’t allow it. The USA supports Israel, and Turkey’s in NATO with the USA, and while they could shout and rant against the Jews for public consumption, Turkey is really the best friend in the Islamic world the Israelis have. Over the past decades this has been true.
So these Biblical scholars who are concerned with the prophecies of Ezekiel and think theyre yet to come (because of the words that mention Jews returning from all the nations to a desolate Israelthey say this is a prophecy in its own right concerning the new nation of Israel in the 1940s) have wondered and worried over signs that Turkey would be drawn into a war against Israel with a huge alliance of nations. I mean, it isnt far-fetched to think that Iran (Persia), Kush (Sudan/Eritrea), Gomer (North Iraq) and Egypt want to invade Israel but not Turkey.
Well, here we go... I would say kicking out the Western-looking, Ataturk-following military leaders and replacing them with Fundamentalists would seem to be setting the hook, sort to speak. And those are the words that God uses through Ezekiel to convey HOW Turkey will made be the Alliance leader. To set hooks into their jaws and pull them in. Ive read that that was how wild asses were captured in those days.
Look, to a person who doesnt believe it doesnt make sense to even argue. But in my humble opinion, the fact that Israel, a nation that fell and failed to be since the Romans were at their peak (and hundreds of years before THEY fell) was resurrected exactly as this scripture said it would, at least makes me pay special attention to the anything having to do with the land of Gog and Magog.
and commanders of air forces, navy and land forces have resigned from their positions amid controversy on appointment of generals
It never hurts to pay attention to scripture. Most prophecies are so vague as to always be true. Is the Bible showing patterns which repeat themselves? Most likely.
The nations and types of events repeat and the words of Ezekiel were intended to be to his contemporaries. Are they relevant to today very probably.