Skip to comments.McCain rips Toomey on Senate floor (McCain attacks Tea Party vision as "flawed" and "terrible")
Posted on 07/31/2011 5:31:34 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Former GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, who this week referred to Tea Party lawmakers as "hobbits," publicly criticized Pennsylvania's Pat Toomey Sunday during an unusual unscripted debate on the Senate floor.
McCain, who appeared to be having a great 'ol time during a back and forth with Democrat Majority Whip Sen. Dick Durbin, referred to Toomey and those who share his views as "terrible."
"...the terrible obstructionists on this side of the aisle, the terrible people, their flawed philosophical views about the future of America..."
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.....and they don't count for much in my books. Thinking so doesn't MAKE it so and I won't let THEM influence ME!
The thread started out about McCain and is now a thread about those here who think Governor Palin singlehandidly got him reelected. Talk about conspiracy theories.
You say that she couldn't have supported him anymore than she did? Wanna bet? How about blaming J.D Hayworth for being a weak Candidate, or is he completely absolved because mean old Sarah showed up and made a speech?
Nobody here likes McCain, but none of us were picked to be his VP running mate either. Now you say McCain is acting like a jerk because of Sarah Palin? He would have gotten reelected with or without her.
Talk about being a Palinbot, you have given her Omnipotent Powers with your fantasy that she somehow convinced so many people about how wonderful McCain is that he won by a 28% majority. If it was a 1% victory, Palin’s limited support might have had an impact, that's it.
You believe what you want. Your assigning that much influence to Sarah Palin means that if she is elected POTUS, we will have a Balanced Budget, no National Debt, a thriving Energy sector, 3% Unemployment and every other Conservative wish list item fulfilled within her first 100 days in office. Even the so called Palinbots don't believe that LOL.
This fossil needs to go home.
I say again, the ONE decent act in his entire miserable life was a fluke, an accident of chance. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day; McCain was right ONCE in 75 years. He was ALWAYS a POS.
Mr. 47% of the vote wants to tell the GOP how to win...
Thanks a lot Arizona!
Mr. McCAIN. As the Senator may know, I came to the floor a couple days ago and made the comment that the Senator from Illinois and I are in agreement.
Point No. 1, we can prioritize--and every economist that I know literally would agree. We can prioritize for a while where we want what remaining money that is left. But the message we send to the world--not just our markets but to the world--that the United States of America is going to default on its debts is a totally unacceptable scenario and beneath a great nation. We are in agreement, No. 1.
Mr. DURBIN. Amen.
Mr. McCAIN. No. 2 is that to insist that any agreement is based on the passage through the Senate of a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as I said before, is not fair to the American people because the terrible obstructionists on the Senator's side of the aisle, the terrible people, their flawed philosophical views about the future of America is not going to allow us to get 20 additional votes from the Senator's side, assuming you get all 47, since it required 67 votes to pass a balanced budget amendment because of the Constitution.
I think it was not only a wrong assessment; I think it is not fair to the American people to say we can pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution through the Senate at this time. Maybe after the Senator is defeated in the next election and we get rid of a lot of--maybe that will happen. But certainly let's not tell the American people that is a possibility because I think it raises their expectations in a way that is not fair to them and, frankly, detracts from what I think is being done as we speak between the leaders, the President, Democratic leaders and Republican leaders, which is in a very short timeframe.
That's exactly what he is saying, and he is criticizing the GOP for setting up an expectation that a BBA could pass the Senate. Unfair to the people to "promise" them something that can't happen until DEMs stop obstructing it, or are reduce in number so that the DEM obstruction is irrelevant.
The version of the BBA in CCB (e.g. 2/3 majority to raise taxes, capping Fed spending at 18% of GDP) is not only not passable now, it's not passable ever(IMO).
That doesn't just mandate a balanced budget, it mandates conservative republican rule. I just don't ever see any way you get 2/3 of both houses and 3/4 of the states. You will always have enough liberals to block, and enough blue states to not ratify.
On the other hand, I think you can get a straight amendment through, and may have even been able to get it this year w/ the correct strategy. So if you're right, it's a legitimate point by him, but made in a horrific, treacherous way.
Screw you McCain! I voted for Sarah, not YOU!
He was just reelected in 2010, not up again until 2016
note to self: read thread before posting
,McCain was a poor pilot who wrecked several expensive aircraft,............................... And an Aircraft Carrier too?
Maybe McPain is afraid that Toomey, who has also moved leftward, is competition for TV time on the liberal media.