Skip to comments.GOP rallies around Boehner on deal
Posted on 07/31/2011 11:33:36 PM PDT by RabinEdited on 08/01/2011 8:38:33 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
By JAKE SHERMAN & JONATHAN ALLEN | 7/31/11 7:17 PM EDT
House Republicans praised Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and the deal he cut to avoid a national default during a rare Sunday night conference call, giving first-blush approval to a plan that must still be committed to legislation and passed by both chambers of Congress.
Now comes the hard part for the four heads of congressional caucuses: Selling the fine print. Thats the job that Boehner, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) signed up for when each gave his or her word to President Barack Obama Sunday night that the deal was in hand.
Its complicated, multi-dimensional and full of peril for the priorities of each side so much so that while the White House pointed to the possibility of the Bush tax cuts expiring, House Republican leaders were telling their rank and file that the deal made that scenario less likely.
Its not the greatest deal in the world, Boehner told his troops.
But it shows how much weve changed the terms of the debate in this town, Boehner said on the call, according to a transcript released by the speakers office. There is nothing in this framework that violates our principles. Its all spending cuts.
Come Monday, all eyes will be on House Republicans because they seldom jump in line without a fight.
Boehners lieutenants, including Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), applauded the speaker for pushing the president as far as he could while avoiding the economic and political calamity that could result from a default on the nations debt which the Treasury Department has said will happen after Aug. 2 if...
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The Super Congress will cut spending. It is an even better version of the Congress we have now ... which 6 percent of America supports.
OK, got to it via a google search.
Still pretending the current congress has any ability to control future congressional action!
No real assurance of a balanced budget amendment, I doubt one trillion in cuts covers the interest on the current debt.
Appears we may lose the “Reagan tax cuts”, equals a TAX INCREASE!
I saw nothing of any Fed. agencies being eliminated, none even being combined!
Where are the actual budget cuts, not just imaginative accounting tricks, real cuts?
I fear what this debt ceiling affair (along with the CR charade) proves is that the GOP House isn't capable of winning any battles and actually moving the ball forward.
Consequently, it might be best if we simply go on defense and concentrate on stopping everything the President and Democrat Senate try to do.
Worse than what we hoped for, better than what we feared. Our opponents are NOT happy with this deal. At all.
It’s not what I want at all. I won’t be satisfied until all Unconstitutional spending is eliminated. But it’s a start. It took our opponents a century to get us where we are today. We cannot expect to reverse a trend of such duration overnight.
Two steps forward, one step back. Keep up the pressure.
The point is not to take Obama, Reid and Pelosi to the cleaners, it is save the country.
Maybe next year, if there is a USA next year. You keep kicking the can down the road, and someday you run out of road.
What would the Old Pea Picker have to say about our situation?
Another day older and a deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call me cause I owe my soul to the Chicoms now.
Divided government allows you to stop an agenda. We’ve done that already. Reversing one, which is what everyone here wants to see, takes control of the entire government. We had our shot under Bush and blew it; we need to work on earning another in 2012. Only then can we hope to turn America around.
Watch individual members, not the party.
no dems wrote:
IF THE GOP GOES ALONG WITH THIS, IT'S TIME TO FORM THE "CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF AMERICA".
The TEA Party caucus should vote against this. And any true conservatives should seriously consider voting against this.
In 2012, all "establishment Republicans" who go along with this need to be eliminated in the primaries.
Ballot access laws in most states are written to protect the establishment parties. I live in Florida. Charlie Crist (RINO) tried to run as an "Independent" last year. I thought he was washed up, but when I heard his radio add during the last 3 weeks before the election and he said, "Look for me on line 9 on your ballot," I knew he had no chance at all.
Until that changes, a "third party" is doomed. Better to reclaim and reform the Republican party.
Right now, from what I'm hearing about this deal, this will grow government. The "cuts" are from projected spending increases, not from current spending.
There are two major things wrong with this. First, spending in Fiscal Year 2012 and 2013 (the only two years which this Congress can actually control) will go up, not down. The second is pretending that this Congress can do anything about years after Fiscal Year 2013, it can't. On January of 2013, a new Congress will be sworn in, and that Congress can do anything, including reversing anything this Congress has done.
The status quo is going to be maintained for now:
So, there would be a economical difference when we control the House, Senate and WH? The results would be smoother? The world is defined by men, not mice.
When has that ever happened in the past?
f Repubs had the Senate and Presidency we could hack government spending down right now, this year, for the current year, and eliminate some departments AND all their corresponding regulation on citizens and business.
Republicans had the House, the Senate and the Presidency from January 2001 through December 2006. During that time, the Department of Education budget doubled. Department of Energy grew by 50%.
We need more Republicans like Custer needed more Indians.
What we need is a party dedicated to smaller federal government, limited by the Constitution. And we need that from the bottom to the top. We need city council members and county commissioners who control their spending and don't go asking their Congress Critters for "Grant money" to pay for things. The problem goes much farther than inside the beltway.
We need Republicans who will act like republicans. Repubicans who will live within the limits of the Constitution, and local and state Republicans who understand you can't pass "10th amendent resolutions" asking the Congress to respect the Constitution, and then ask for $Billions in "federal grants" for extra-constitutional "programs."
The GOP lost its way, were working on giving it new focus. Politics is always about what is achievable. Elect the right people and in the right numbers, and we can do much.
There would be a legislative difference. The world may be ruled by men, but at the moment we haven’t sufficient of them. Win in 2012.
There is nothing you said that I disagree with. But in my putting probabilities of what would happen on the debt deal, this wasn’t the most likely, and certainly not the worst. A default is inevitable, IMO. The mathematics are becoming more insurmountable with each passing day.
Rather than just “preach to the quire” I fired off FAXes listing my objections to each of my reps in the house and senate, TONIGHT!
My FAX will be waiting for them when they arrive in the morning.
Already printed out for their readying pleasure. ;-)
If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.”
Have you been reading Leibniz again?
Wow, what a great deal! We went from 3-1 cuts to 1-1 and the choice is higher taxes or deep(er) cuts to the military. That’s real good negotiating.
That PUB laughing about giving Boehner a Merlot and a cigarette was truer than he thought - Boehner got scr*wed. And so did we.
Once again, PUBs have shown their inability to lead. Only 0bambi is worse; but he’ll take all the credit that the LSM gives him.
You’re not the only one.