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Cloward-Piven Paradise Now? (Good commentary)
American Thinker ^ | August 1, 2011 | Jeannie DeAngelis

Posted on 08/01/2011 10:44:05 AM PDT by jazusamo

Combine class warfare, demonizing the rich, getting as many people onto the welfare rolls as possible, and pushing the economic system to collapse and you have a flawless formula for Cloward-Piven 2.0 -- and a vehicle that ensures Obama remains in power.

Cloward-Piven is a much talked-about strategy proposed in the mid-1960's by two Columbia University sociology professors named Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The Cloward-Piven approach was sometimes referred to as the "crisis strategy," which they believed were a means to "end poverty."

The premise of the Cloward-Piven collective/anti-capitalist gospel decried "individual mobility and achievement," celebrated organized labor, fostered the principle that "if each finally found himself in the same relative economic relationship to his fellows ... all were infinitely better off."

The duo taught that if you flooded the welfare rolls and bankrupted the cities and ultimately the nation, it would foster economic collapse, which would lead to political turmoil so severe that socialism would be accepted as a fix to an out-of-control set of circumstances.

The idea was that if people were starving and the only way to eat was to accept government cheese, rather than starve, the masses would agree to what they would otherwise reject. In essence, for the socialist-minded, the Cloward-Piven strategy is a simple formula that makes perfect sense; the radical husband-and-wife team had Saul Alinsky as their muse, and they went on to teach his social action principles to a cadre of socialist-leaning community organizers, one of whom was Barack Obama.

As the debt crisis continues to worsen, President Obama stands idly by an inferno with his arms crossed, shaking his head, and doing nothing other than kinking the fire hose and closing the spigot...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: DKM

It’s worse than that-—there are only about 12 million of us left in the US that actually manufacture something. The rest of the working group amount to about 170 million and are non-productive overhead of every sort. We have to hope that there are enough in the 170 million group who understand the danger of more socialism etc. to keep the freeloaders under 50%.


61 posted on 08/01/2011 3:37:39 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: radioone

That would be the X-Ray machine division——going to China-—going to be interesting to see how those nuclear materials work out.


62 posted on 08/01/2011 3:44:01 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Well, that and the simple fact that many families are squatters who occuppied the houses of Jews lost during the war. They can’t get clear title to sell or transfer the properties. So they are stuck with paying the property taxes in perpetuity and are too greedy and tight fisted themselves to do the right thing. The kids can’t get a piece of free property and just can’t bring themselves to step out on their own. The parents or squatters can’t re-fi because they can’t sign for the loan. It’s a factor holding Europe back and will be a factor until all the squatters and their kin die off.


63 posted on 08/01/2011 4:01:57 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

check out some of these posts from LEO who says as long as they pay his salary, he’ll do what they say... stopping jus tshy of genocide.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2755037/posts


64 posted on 08/01/2011 4:09:17 PM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: MestaMachine

I smell Zach de la Rocha and Michael Moore all over this.


65 posted on 08/01/2011 4:59:59 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: MestaMachine

That Facebook page clicks to this site:

http://www.usdayofrage.org/

That page clicks to this site:

http://www.occupywallstreet.com/

Bottom of that page clicks to this blog:

http://occupy-wall-street.com/

Do you know any Freeper that can trace these urls?

Odd ranting on the blog, but then again, we know who knows how to incite the rabble.


66 posted on 08/01/2011 5:19:52 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Truth29
"...would the law enforcement and military personnel fire on the citizenry?"

The LEOs already are shooting. "Civilians" are fair game. Look how their entire culture is completely separate from the people they are supposed to "protect and serve."

They are the bodyguard, the "progressive's" thugs. They HAVE to enforce whatever dictats the socialists dream up, because that is the only thing between them and a noose.

As long as civilians still are convinced that this is a nation of laws, the cops are safe. As soon as the people realize that the police are working for the politicians, regardless of how stupid and thieving they become, the house of cards will collapse.

That's why, when another thug soaks up a bullet, or wraps a public car around a tree during a drunken spree, and they make all kinds of long faces on the propaganda box, I shrug and change the channel.

They aren't on Our Side.

67 posted on 08/01/2011 5:23:22 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: roaddog727
One critical aspect these clowns forgot tto take into account: WHO makes the cheese? I.e. if everyone is forced onto the dole, then there are no farmers left to produce the milk and/or to make the cheese.

F’n Idealistic short-sighted morons........

The liberals are, yes.

The Leftists? They WANT the starvation.

68 posted on 08/01/2011 5:26:28 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: thouworm

Already tracking down. Anonymous (who are to a large degree Hamas) helping to implement the action. The day of rage 17. of September, but then: Global Revolution (more actions) on Oct. 15.

Meanwhile, something truly strange. Looks like a kind of Teaparty takeover:

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blogs/muslim-republicans-says-no

Anybody heard of a “Teaparty Command Center”? Pushing muslims?


69 posted on 08/01/2011 5:51:32 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
I don’t see how one could say this is not working very much as planned.

The end game will always fail. You cannot expect a state that was bankrupted by welfare payments to be able to pay those same welfare payments after the bankruptcy.

70 posted on 08/01/2011 6:36:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: thouworm; Hardraade

Tracking the urls is pretty futile. wallstreet.org tracks to GoDaddy in Scottsdale, AZ and wall-street.org tracks in one hop from NY to San Francisico running a Russian highspeed server called nginx.
We have been looking at this for days. Hardraade brought it to my attention and has done more on the groups involved than I have because I have been hipdeep in this budget thing and Gunwalker.
Pinging him to see what’s up.


71 posted on 08/01/2011 6:36:46 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine

Thing about the ip’s here is that it seems they’re using cloudservers, so that would make the pointers pretty pointless. As I said, they have Anonymouys and Lulsec in the crowd.

Heven’t looked at the facebook outlets, but there’s a lot to see on their websites (which are proliferating fast). Egypt, in larger scale.


72 posted on 08/01/2011 6:44:55 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: jazusamo

Francis Fox Piven is probably filling her glass for a toast right about now ...


73 posted on 08/01/2011 6:48:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: thouworm

http://www.usdayofrage.org/ tracks to CloudFlare-nginx in San Francisco.


74 posted on 08/01/2011 6:49:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: radioone

Jeff Immelt is a communist an a prime mover in the current coup d’etat. He is as evil as they come; as are the Board Members over at GE, as are the officers of the company itself.


75 posted on 08/01/2011 6:49:48 PM PDT by PENANCE
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To: jazusamo

bfl


76 posted on 08/01/2011 6:50:47 PM PDT by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: jazusamo

What Frances F. Piven never realizes is socialism is the entry door to the oligarchical state. [Wasn’t there a talking mule named Frances? ... But I digress} There are really only two viable forms of government for long term life, Oligarchy or Republic. Socialism always leads to an oligarchy. Fools like Piven can only see the pretty tulip poplars and none of the poison shumac forest behind them. Frances is serving her father with all she’s got ... may she soon go to be with her father.


77 posted on 08/01/2011 6:53:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Hardraade; thouworm

Guess it’s time to get cracking. Gonna take this to TM and go for it.


78 posted on 08/01/2011 6:53:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Hardraade
Sheesh; I replied 1/2 hr ago, and it's not there

Since then, MM has weighed in on the other matter.

http://www.teaparty.org/ has no url link that I can see to http://teapartyorg.ning.com/.

The latter looks like a blog within blogs (but with the same logo as teaparty.org).

Your url blogger

View Leah Lax 4 President 2012's blog

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=3ozt6gobts7m9

also posted this blog entry:

If you long to be free... Do you want to leave Islam

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blogs/if-you-long-to-be-free

This is the first time I have visited either of these websites. If the website in question was affiliated to the teaparty.org website, one would think teaparty.org would have a blog link to the website in question.

79 posted on 08/01/2011 7:08:43 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: roaddog727
One critical aspect these clowns forgot to take into account: WHO makes the cheese?

It's like welfare. If no one has to work - they don't.
There will be consumption, but nothing to left consume. This is why all the socialist leaders before Oboma had to kill off millions of their own people. No one wanted to get out of bed to bake the bread. People were starving.

The radical left ASSUMES the tax slaves will continue to labor, but if they can get the same paycheck as every one else just by watching TV all day, why work? Why bother? "Where's the remote?"

80 posted on 08/01/2011 7:10:27 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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