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Eric Cantor: Obama 'in over his head'
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Posted on 08/03/2011 10:40:43 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Eric Cantor: Obama 'in over his head'

By: Jennifer Epstein August 3, 2011 01:10 PM EDT

President Barack Obama is “in over his head” when it comes to tackling the country’s economic troubles, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said Wednesday.

The president has not run a business or created jobs and has proven himself ill-suited to put the economy back on track, the Virginia Republican said in a midday interview on the Wall Street Journal’s website with opinion columnist Peggy Noonan and editor James Freeman.

At one point during negotiations on a deal to raise the debt ceiling, Cantor said that the president chose to play politics rather than working on the substance of the deal. Obama seemed “agitated” by Republicans’ opposition to any measures that might be perceived as tax increases – something that the president wanted in a deal – and, at one point, said, “Eric, don’t call my bluff,” Cantor recalled.

Though Republicans were reluctant to support a bill to raise the debt ceiling that didn’t also include plans to vote on a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, the “prevailing sentiment” among members of the GOP was that “we didn’t want to go past Aug. 2 because of the unknown” without raising the debt ceiling.

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will be responsible for choosing the three House Republicans to join the committee that will propose ways to reduce the deficit, and Cantor said he is getting “a lot of calls and emails from members who want to serve” on the panel, including some who voted against the deal.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cantorwaling
Ya think so?
1 posted on 08/03/2011 10:40:47 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

At some point, recipients of affirmative action are exposed.


2 posted on 08/03/2011 10:43:34 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: Sub-Driver

Cantor voted yes to this monstrosity of a bill. I’ve lost complete respect for him. Every year he sponsors a “Republican Round up” in Richmond, VA. Every year my family and I go. Not this year. It’ll be interesting to see how it does go this year.


3 posted on 08/03/2011 10:44:40 AM PDT by albie
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To: Sub-Driver

The biggest problem the President has is knowing that many Democrats feel the same way. His numbers are dropping so fast among Democrats, he’s got to be afraid that they’ll ask him to leave before the election.


4 posted on 08/03/2011 10:46:04 AM PDT by RC2
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To: mkboyce

Exactly.


5 posted on 08/03/2011 10:48:17 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Just when you think the left can't get any loonier . . .)
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To: Sub-Driver

At this point, Cantor has zero credibility concerning anything economic.


6 posted on 08/03/2011 10:49:09 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sorry to say this Mr Cantor, but the BS your trying to sell calling the debt increase a good deal tells me your in over your principle


7 posted on 08/03/2011 10:49:40 AM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Sub-Driver

Color me surprised that the community cupcake sales didn’t fully prepare him for this.


8 posted on 08/03/2011 10:50:05 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Sub-Driver
Hey liberals...


... "Miss me yet?"

9 posted on 08/03/2011 10:50:05 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Sub-Driver

we all knew this two and a half years ago...then again be thankful for the small things in life...


10 posted on 08/03/2011 10:50:59 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: albie
It's no surprise that Cantor would have voted for it.

It contained what he & Boehner had said from the beginning they wanted...no tax hikes and cuts equal to the amount of debt hike.

Don't know if you knew that's what he said he wanted from the beginning.

11 posted on 08/03/2011 10:51:56 AM PDT by Justice
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To: Sub-Driver
President Barack Obama is “in over his head” when it comes to tackling the country’s economic troubles,

0bama is in over his head with any and every aspect of governing this country.

12 posted on 08/03/2011 10:52:48 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: mkboyce
At some point, recipients of affirmative action are exposed.

Yep, it's called The Peter Principle and as we all know there's no bigger peter than Obama.
13 posted on 08/03/2011 10:53:32 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: Sub-Driver

So that’s one thing he and Cantor have in common.


14 posted on 08/03/2011 10:55:28 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: RC2

It’s in the air...I wouldn’t be surprised if the 25th was invoked, first. Then he would be found to be mentally unstable or some illness at which point...Biden would become the official president.


15 posted on 08/03/2011 10:58:04 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Barack Obama:
The accidental president
The affirmative action president
The rigid ideologue


16 posted on 08/03/2011 10:59:07 AM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: Sub-Driver
If the purpose of the exercise is to destroy this country -- and it is -- this clown is doing JUST FINE.

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“It was planned this way. Ohh, Mr. Soros will be sooo pleased!”

17 posted on 08/03/2011 10:59:09 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: Sub-Driver

A true pot calls kettle black, moment.


18 posted on 08/03/2011 11:00:45 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hussein isn’t in over his head. The destruction of the U.S.A. is by design.


19 posted on 08/03/2011 11:01:16 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: albie
Cantor voted yes to this monstrosity of a bill.

Cantor and SOH Bonehead and any Republican in either house who voted for this massive tax hike and spending orgy needs to be thrown out of office. The list of RINOs who agreed with the muslim in our White House should be our list of turncoats to be removed from office . . . Cantor, Bonehead, LaTourette, Portman, and anyone else on the Yea list.

20 posted on 08/03/2011 11:02:31 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Sub-Driver

So are statist Republicans that just signed on to increasing our debt because they are too gutless to stand for the principles they campaigned on.


21 posted on 08/03/2011 11:04:16 AM PDT by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the pThey may feel bettrinciples.---Jim DeMin)
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To: Sub-Driver

No kidding?


22 posted on 08/03/2011 11:06:15 AM PDT by null and void (Day 923. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, let me get this straight: We extended past the 2012 elections a reconsideration of the issue... and for that we got the promise of (”Washington style”)spending cuts and promise of no new taxes (both of which are at the whim of yet another “commission”).
And now I’m told “we won”???


24 posted on 08/03/2011 11:07:00 AM PDT by blues-train (blues train)
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To: mkboyce

in this case. jan 20 2009


25 posted on 08/03/2011 11:10:08 AM PDT by sappy
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama is not incompetent. He intends to take America down the path of socialism/communism etc. The ONLY way that can be achieved is to first destroy the US. Debt beyond our means is one of the engines to do it.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 11:13:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Uh, Eric? Right now I’m so mad at you that I just want you to shut your ass kissin’ pie hole and sweep around your own back door until you can think for yourself and what’s good for us out here in the real world. I’ll let you know when I’m ready to hear anything you have to say.


27 posted on 08/03/2011 11:14:31 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yeah, with more than enough help from the De-publicans!!


28 posted on 08/03/2011 11:16:18 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Sub-Driver
. . . "who want to serve” on the panel, including some who voted against the deal."

You can bet that the Republican leadership in both the House and Senate will be putting all those who had the courage to say No to this crap sandwich on the $**tlist for these Commission?Committee slots.

The democrats will appoint 6 ultra-left socialtists, the RINO-led Republicans will appoint one token Tea Party guy and the rest will be RINOs like McCain.

29 posted on 08/03/2011 11:16:22 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Sub-Driver

obama may be in over his head, but, he handed your ass to you in this socalled “debt crisis”. So who is the dummy? the American people.


30 posted on 08/03/2011 11:19:44 AM PDT by sport
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To: Sub-Driver
“I think, frankly, he’s in over his head as to what to do about this economy,” Cantor said.

Oh yeah? Obama has an answer for this. A bus trip!

Take that!

31 posted on 08/03/2011 11:23:33 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Sub-Driver

Sorry, but the GOP leadership, including Cantor, have zero credibility.


32 posted on 08/03/2011 11:30:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Dawgreg

And the Republicans are either stupid or complicit. Either scenario means they need replacements.


33 posted on 08/03/2011 11:31:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Dawgreg
Uh, Eric? Right now I’m so mad at you that I just want you to shut your ass kissin’ pie hole and sweep around your own back door until you can think for yourself and what’s good for us out here in the real world. I’ll let you know when I’m ready to hear anything you have to say.

(ladylike applause from correctly white-gloved hands)

34 posted on 08/03/2011 11:33:51 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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To: All

So are you Eric!

Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot!


35 posted on 08/03/2011 11:43:54 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Justice
It contained what he & Boehner had said from the beginning they wanted...no tax hikes and cuts equal to the amount of debt hike.

The only real thing in that bill was a hike in the debt limit. Everything else is a promise of future goodies.

Obama will spend the money in ways to insure his re-election, and Boehner and company will be spending the campaign season arguing about what austerity measures have to happen to pay for that spending. Can you say "Speaker of the House Pelosi" once again?

It's the campaign off-season where you need to do the hard stuff. This was the time to let the SHTF, as by Nov 2012, the smoke would have cleared. Let's call 2011 the year of Boehner's Boner of a Bill.

36 posted on 08/03/2011 11:50:49 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: albie
I agree.

It seems to me that Cantor and the Republicans are the ones in over their heads, judging from the comment “we didn’t want to go past Aug. 2 because of the unknown”"

They let themselves be scared by the 'unknown' boogeyman should the debt ceiling be hit. They might as well just acknowledge that they will never ever let it be hit, as they are too scared to be adults and address the problem of living within our means.

The other explanation is that they know what would happen, but they fear that it would result in net positive gains for the Democrats. Which again says that they are out of their depth when fighting the Democrats.

If Cantor doesn't think he can win, he should step down and let somebody else play for his side who does. Cantor might be a very smart guy, but if you avoid every battle you think you might lose, the enemy quickly learns how to frighten you away from every battle.

37 posted on 08/03/2011 11:59:38 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: org.whodat
A true pot calls kettle black, moment.

Black, whodat?


38 posted on 08/03/2011 12:05:43 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Unfortunately, so is Eric Cantor (in over his head).
39 posted on 08/03/2011 12:29:54 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: slowhandluke

Thanks for your posts #36 and #37,

Your analysis is spot-on.

It amazes me when anybody gives any sort of credit to Boner & Co.. Not only did they give the store away, but they missed an opportunity that won’t be quick in returning (if it ever will).


40 posted on 08/03/2011 12:30:02 PM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Sub-Driver
[ Obama 'in over his head' ]

Well.... Duuuuugh.. Thats except.... for one thing..
That "thing is"; Obama is trying to tank the American system ON PURPOSE.....

He is trying to overwhelm the system with malice aforethought..

Its called.... (wait for it)... ...Cloward-Piven... tactics..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

41 posted on 08/03/2011 12:42:14 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: slowhandluke

I’m sorry, but it sure seems that you wish the greatly outnumbered GOP had simply charged into a battle with Obama, the Senate and the media and then relied on “good luck” or “good intentions” or “Providence” to deliver a great victory.

Well, that “strategy” didn’t work very well for General Custer at Little Big Horn, did it?. And it didn’t work very well for Napoleon at Waterloo, either. I wonder why anyone would think that “wishful thinking” is a useful strategy for “winning”.

Hmmmm....?

Are you really a DUmmie troll?


42 posted on 08/03/2011 12:59:01 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: pfony1
Let me respond to your ridiculous post to slowhandluke by quoting a person well known to you:

Why doesn’t the GOP “picket” the Senate to DEMAND action before the FAA shuts down.

Or is it better to let “do-nothing” Harry Reed claim — after the fact — that the FAA’s shut down is the GOP’s “fault”.

Sometimes, it looks like the GOP confuses “acting polite” with “governing”.

Recognize it?

What drug are you on that causes you to be so confused with how to deal with a democrat Senate? The quote, of course is your own.

43 posted on 08/03/2011 2:23:26 PM PDT by JohnG45
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will be responsible for choosing the three House Republicans to join the committee that will propose ways to reduce the deficit, and Cantor said he is getting “a lot of calls and emails from members who want to serve” on the panel, including some who voted against the deal.

Has anyone done a thread on who they would like on this committee?

I say Ryan, Jeb Hensarling, and Allen West from the House and Jon Kyl, Tom Coburn and Marco Rubio from the Senate


44 posted on 08/03/2011 8:32:58 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: JohnG45

OK, then. You tell me which of these two scenarios would be more likely to HARM the GOP in the 2012 election?

(1) A Republican-controlled Congresss chooses to NOT pass a debt-limit-increase bill. As a result, the US Treasury claims that it has no choice but to default on U.S. Treasury bonds. As a result of the default, interest rates jump for consumers and small businessses. As a result, more jobs are lost. As a result, our 2011 recession becomes a depression.

To extract the maximum benefit from this “crisis”, the White House then plays dirty tricks on our citizens. Social Security checks are stopped (even though the SSA COULD just redeem some of its T-Bonds). Military pay is stopped. Doctor reimbursement is stopped.

As a result, the GOP’s claim to be “the responsible party” is understood by a rapidly growing number of Americans to mean that the GOP is “responsible” for the chaos. Support for the GOP and for the Tea Party movement collapses. To save itself, the GOP begs to negotiate a new Debt-Limit-Increase Bill with the Democrats.

As a result, now that the Democrats have all the negotiating leverage, new TAXES — not new spending cuts — are incorporated in the new bill.

or

(2) A Republican-controlled Congress passes a bill to fund the FAA. The Senate passes a different bill. Due to Democrat foot-dragging, “reconciliation” does not occur. The House GOP does not hold itself hostage to this FAA “crisis”. The House takes its scheduled recess.

Since the old bill expired and there was no new bill enacted, for a period of about a month, the FAA delays payments to some employees and delays payments to some vendors. These claims are paid in full later in the year. The media reports that the payment delays are the fault of the GOP. Few people care.

Can you “recognize” that there is a difference here?


45 posted on 08/04/2011 9:03:20 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: pfony1
There's a lot of difference between war and politics. If the Battle at Big Horn was politics, Custer would have been around to lick his wounds and try again.

The premise that we can wait until we know we will win the battle is wrong. What happens is that the other side keeps winning the battles and getting stronger and we never have a chance to win again.

The problem with the Custer metaphor, is that while Custer lost the battle, the blue-coats won the war. Loosing one battle doesn't lose the war. In another guerrilla war, the Vietnamese lost all the major battles, but won the war. But not fighting guarantees a loss, in war or politics.

If the goal is to win the hearts and minds of the populace, which is the primary goal of guerrilla warfare, the object is to keep up the fight, win or lose, until you wear out the opposition.

You lose a lot more political capital by not fighting, than by fighting for well defined principles even if you lose. The publicity alone is worth the effort, win or lose.

46 posted on 08/04/2011 11:11:36 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: slowhandluke

First, I apologize for my remark about the “DUmmie troll”.

Second, I think we just have different opinions about what the COST would be of failing to “support” an increase in the national debt limit, this time around.

Finally, let’s both work to encourage the GOP to pass real spending cuts in their budget for 2012.


47 posted on 08/05/2011 9:50:45 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: pfony1
Second, I think we just have different opinions about what the COST would be of failing to “support” an increase in the national debt limit, this time around.

Probably true. My opinion is that we'll have to bite the bullet on spending sooner or later, and the bigger we let the debt get, the bigger the eventual cost of the fix.

Just as with individuals, a nation can get into a debt hole that is impossible to get out of without the aid of bankruptcy. I don't think we are that far away from that particular hole, and Boehner's Boner of a Bill didn't slow us down at all.

48 posted on 08/05/2011 1:59:48 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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