Skip to comments.Teacher testifies in gay student murder trial
Posted on 08/04/2011 1:38:41 PM PDT by madprof98
LOS ANGELES The English teacher of a gay student who was shot by a classmate at a junior high school testified Wednesday that she told him to stop wearing eyeliner and mascara, but that he refused and the classroom disruption escalated.
She said King told her the school's assistant vice-principal, Joy Epstein, said he could. She said she went and spoke to Epstein, and was told King had constitutional rights to do so. Later, an email message was issued telling teachers that King's attire was allowed and that they should try to teach students tolerance.
Ekman said she incorporated the message of tolerance into her lessons, but that the problem continued. She said boys complained to her that King was chasing them into the bathroom.
"I explained to him that what he was doing was inappropriate and he laughed and said that he could go into the boys' bathroom and he liked to see them squirm," she said.
Ekman said she went to Epstein to complain about King's behavior again, but the administrator told her there was nothing that could be done. Four days later, King was shot in the head in the computer classroom at E.O Green School in Oxnard.
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It's in the constitution that fags can wear eye shadow and makeup. Who'da thunkit?
If the so called victim was “chasing” the other boys then maybe he was coming onto them
If he molested one of them what were the boys to do ???
Nobody was looking out for the other boys
The shooting is a bit drastic but we dont know how lot this had been going on before it escalated
and we done know exactly what the victim was doing to the boys or what he was saying..
No standards in schools always result in chaos. No right and wrong—no differentiation between boys and girls....all from Marxist sick ideology to destroy relationships. Moral relativism....no standard of right and wrong which used to come from the Bible. Christianity and the family unit—the two pillars of Western Civilization have to be destroyed. No Standards—means no rules to the game-—which always results in anger and unequal rights and fights.
No Rule of Law = chaos. The schools are set up with no right and wrong behaviors to create chaos and unrest and revolution from traditional behaviors which secured a certain amount of order and trust. No rules destroys trust and rules which allow unnatural acts to be normalized will cause much more anger among people who believe in Just Law and Natural Law—the foundational principles of our legal system for a reason.
That is true but I hope the killer gets the chair. There is no reason for killing no matter who. I mean what happened to just punching a guy in the face? Kids are so ridiculous today. No normal fights that we had 24 years ago. Heck we would have fights and then it was over. Today they just kill each other. It is a very tragic world today.
in other words the student who shot the victim may not have been “unstable”
He may have been afraid and helpless
The teachers were protecting the homosexual and lecturing the shooter and his classmates
While all the time it was the shooter and his classmates who needed protection..
Not kill the kid for goodness sake. Two families ruined for NOTHING. When I was in school the guys used mascara all the time and that was the straight ones. I went to Catholic high school and this was the 80’s so I guess that explains alot. lol. For the record, I did not wear mascara because I was not into that scene. But to kill a person over wearing mascara is ridiculous. I don't care who he is.
“It’s in the constitution that fags can wear eye shadow and makeup. Who’da thunkit?”
Well let’s face it, those guys all wore powdered wigs and skintight breeches, so it’s probably out there in the penumbra somewhere/s;)
Were you ever molested by another boy and had nobody to tell
Nobody who would care
and at the same time were being lectured on treating the perp “nice” ???
Its not a good spot to be in...
I didnt say killing him was right...
but these are just kids..
With nowhere to go and no end in sight..
Involuntary manslaughter is the worst case scenario if I was on the jury and maybe not even a conviction of any sort he was acting to prevent a felony sexual assault; for which the use of deadly force is available in most states.
Just out of curiosity, how often does crap like this happen in Chinese, South Korean or Indian schools?/sarcasm
Was the shooter one of Holder’s people? If not, he burns. You can’t go around shooting kids in school because they are weird. You’d run out of bullets quickly.
Not endorsing the killing, but kicking the girly boy’s ass would most assuredly have resulted in him being charged with a hate crime. Then to be vilified and persecuted by the press, the homo supporters, etc.
The boy had nowhere to turn. He felt completely powerless, was basically being told that he was at fault for not being “tolerant enough”. He tried to work within the “system” and the “system” turned on him.
He resorted to the only course of action that he believed would grant him relief from his pursuer.
Sad situation all the way around.
The shooting "victim" was a bully and a predator. The shooter was a victim of that predator and could find no help from the school. This is a sad situation, and I would not enjoy serving on the jury. The shooter committed a crime, but he was set up by the society that should have protected all the children in the school and not just one freak who enjoyed being a bully.
An intelligent teacher might have told the bully that, yes, he had according to the school a right to act like a freak but that he would have few friends in school and miss out on the chance to learn how to make friends if he continued abusing others for the fun of making them squirm. An intelligent administration, confronted with an unacceptable lawsuit risk on one side and an unacceptable risk to the normal children on the other side, would have "allowed" the little bully to dress as he liked but provided continuous supervision to keep him from using his freakishness as a source of power. There were so many opportunities to do this right (including standing up to the parents and explaining that even if there was a legal right to dress like a freak, it was harming their child socially), but the school and the family did nothing.
That is true, but what would the guy do if in the real world at his job there was a guy wearing mascara. I mean it is horrible about tolerance today, but you still have to deal with different types of people whether we like it or not. Sure he could quit his job but his parents could have sent him to another school too. Oh well I wonder how he will do in jail with all the guys who want to have him in their cell. I think he was really stupid for doing this because he could deal with one gay guy when now he is going to have to deal with 100’s of gays that are in jail.
No I wasn’t and I am sure that it would be horrible but getting gang raped in jail is not going to be fun either. He had about a few years to deal with this guy and now he will be gang raped for life.
I suppose that sounds good in theory, but it is neither reasonable nor possible to provide "continuous supervision" of a child who is determined to harass others, especially when that child is obviously not responding to normal motivational techniques. The simple reality is that the kid was on a collision course with what most of us rightly define as normality. The only way to stop that was to take him off the course, as his English teacher tried in vain to do. Meanwhile, the teachers who got praised were the ones BUYING him dresses, evidently beloved of administrators who thought of that (and bathroom squirming, I guess) as constitutionally protected.