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Posted on 08/05/2011 5:13:02 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
WEST ALLIS - Witnesses tell Newsradio 620 WTMJ and TODAY'S TMJ4 of a mob of young people attacking innocent fair-goers at the end of the opening night of State Fair, with some callers claiming a racially-charged scene.
Milwaukee Police confirmed there were assaults outside the fair.
Witnesses' accounts claim everything from dozens to hundreds of young black people beating white people as they left State Fair Thursday night.
Authorities have not given official estimates of the number of people involved in the attacks. "It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people," said Norb Roffers of Wind Lake in an interview with Newsradio 620 WTMJ. He left the State Fair Entrance near the corner of South 84th Street and West Schlinger Avenue in West Allis.
"They were attacking everybody for no reason whatsoever."
"It was 100% racial," claimed Eric, an Iraq war veteran from St. Francis who says young people beat on his car.
"I had a black couple on my right side, and these black kids were running in between all the cars, and they were pounding on my doors and trying to open up doors on my car, and they didn't do one thing to this black couple that was in this car next to us. They just kept walking right past their car. They were looking in everybody's windshield as they were running by, seeing who was white and who was black. Guarantee it."
Eric, a war veteran, said that the scene he saw Thursday outside State Fair compares to what he saw in combat.
"That rated right up there with it. When I saw the amount of kids coming down the road, all I kept thinking was,'There's not enough cops to handle this.' There's no way. It would have taken the National Guard to control the number of kids that were coming off the road. They were knocking people off their motorcycles."
Another witness, who asked to remain anonymous, said, "it was like a scene you needed the National Guard to control."
"To me, it looked like a scene out of a movie," claimed the anonymous witness.
"I have not seen anything like this in my life. It was a huge mob, and it was a fight that maybe lasted one to two minutes."
Roffers claimed that as he left the state fair with his wife, crowds near that entrance were large, and someone in that crowd .
"As we got closer to the street, we looked up the road, and we saw a quite a bit of commotion going on and there was a guy laying in the road, and nobody was even laying there. He wasn't even moving. Finally a car pulled up. They stopped right next to the guy, and it looked like someone was going to help him. We were kind of stuck, because we couldn't cross. Traffic was going through. Young black men running around, beating on people, and we were like 'Let's get the heck out of here.' The light turned, and I got attacked from behind. I just got hit in the back of the head real hard. I'm like, 'What the heck is going on here?' I heard my bell ring."
Roffers further described what witnesses said happened to the man who was lying in the street.
"People were saying he was on a bike. They tore him off his bike and beat on him. We were walking to the west on Schlinger. I was watching behind me a lot more diligently, making sure there wasn't anybody coming to get us anymore."
One person claimed that someone was knocked off a motorcycle.
TODAY'S TMJ4 video shows West Allis police handcuffing at least one person, but they won't say how many people they took into custody.
Some witnesses described attacks on the State Fair Grounds as well.
Milwaukee Police said that their officers were sent to State Fair Park for "complaints of battery, fighting and property damage due to a large, unruly crowd."
A police sergeant told TODAY'S TMJ4's Melissa McCrady that the number of calls describing injuries are still coming in, so they could not give an accurate number of people who were injured.
That sergeant explained that some injuries were serious, and local hospitals were attending to the injured.
As of early Friday morning, Milwaukee Police said they had no one in custody.
One woman told police that she was sitting in her car with a window down when some teenagers reached through her window and started attacking her.
"I think once we get all the info in it'll be just like that, like what happened in Riverwest," said the police sergeant.
West Allis Police ask you to call them at 414-302-8000 if you have any information.
Eric: "I feared for my life"
Eric, who asked Newsradio 620 WTMJ not to use his last name, talked about the incidents that happened as he, his wife and a neighbor left the fair Thursday.
"We exited at the Schlinger and 84th exit, and we walked south about a block, and then went up and got our car, came back up and around down Schlinger. When we made a left hand turn, we were stopped in traffic. I looked toward the bridge, right before you get on the freeway, and all I saw was a road full of black kids, jumping over people's cars, jumping on people's hoods, running over the top of them."
Eric then claimed that he saw hundreds of young black people coming down a sidewalk.
"I saw them grab this white kid who was probably 14 or 15 years old. They just flung him into the road. They just jumped on him and started beating him. They were kicking him. He was on the ground. A girl picked up a construction sign and pushed it over on top of him. They were just running by and kicking him in the face."
Then, Eric talked about trying to get out of the car to help the victim.
"My wife pulled me back in because she didn't want me to get hit. Thankfully, there was surprising a lady that was in the car in front of me that jumped out of the car real quick and went over there to try to put her body around the kid so they couldn't see he was laying there and, obviously, defenseless. Her husband, or whoever was in the car, was screaming at her to get back into the car. She ended up going back into the car. These black kids grabbed this kid off the ground again, and pulled him up over the curb, onto the sidewalk and threw him into the bushes like he was a piece of garbage."
Eric claimed that the victim in that beating was by himself, and that there was a split of white people on one sidewalk and black people on the other.
"There was nobody else around to help him. There were no other white people, period, on that side of the street. They were going in the opposite direction because, those people who were coming out of the fair that saw these people coming, they either went back into the fair or took off running south on 84th Street."
Eric expressed anger at the State Fair Police for what he considered a lack of response.
"The thing that irritated me, the State Fair Police, the State Police, were down by the Pettit entrance to get in there," said Eric. "There was probably 5 or 6 officers down there. That's where all these kids came from. They came out of the Midway, across the front of the Pettit. They were still filing out of there. The State Fair Police, they knew this was going on. They knew these kids were beating these guys in between that exit and Schlinger at the next gate."
"They were stopping traffic, and I said 'What in the hell,' excuse my language, 'what are you guys doing directing traffic when there are 300, 400 black kids up the road beating the hell out of everybody, pushing people off of motorcycles?' I was livid. I could not believe they were directing traffic."
Fair worker: attacks not limited to outside fairgrounds
A witness told WTMJ that as he worked in a kiosk at the State Fair Midway, he saw what he described as "a Riverwest type mob. Easily between 50 - 100 kids all under 18 and all African American. They were running around knocking people over (young kids and adults), looting the Midway games (stealing the prizes), starting fights."
The witness, who asked not to be identified, couldn't say for certain if only white people were being attacked.
"It was just complete chaos. There were police on horses, lots of security guards, and EMT's on the scene. They never got control of the area."
A State Fair spokeswoman said that there were arrests made involving the incidents on the grounds.
He said that as the violence happened, he was "getting ready to grab my cash register and run."
"Not to mention this type of behavior started around 7pm and forced me to close down my stand at 9pm. It scared the paying customers out of the midway."
The man said hoping to bring family on Friday, but has decided not to.
"I was planning on bringing my two kids to the fair tonight. I won't be. We'll go to the zoo instead."
Woman: Teenagers in mob didn't attend rap concert
One woman who asked not to be identified tells us that contrary to some belief, the young people involved in the mob did not go to the rap concert that night.
"The mob of black teenagers involved in the beatings and damage outside of State Fair last night were not there for the MC Hammer concert," said the woman.
"I attended that concert with three of my friends last night and the crowd was mostly white and adult (as are my friends and I). Any kids there seemed to be with parents."
She described what she saw as she left the fair.
"As we came through the exit we saw a white boy lying in the street, in the fetal position right by the traffic light, and coming towards us was tons and tons and black teens there had to have been over a hundred in the middle of 84th Street and on the sidewalk headed south," she said.
"Some who stopped to kick or punch him - or in the case of one girl drop kick him in the head - as they walked past. My friends and I started towards him to help him up and a black girl walked past telling us 'yall gonna get your ***** kicked' repeatedly. As my friend stood in front of the boy trying to get him up one of the teens picked up a traffic cone, hit her in the back of the head and ran off. A car stopped, a white woman got out to try and help. Teens jumped onto the hood of the car and ran over it. She just kept saying 'What is wrong with you!?' "
The witness also told us that not every African-American teenager outside the fair grounds acted violent.
"We continued to move towards the parking lot, through even more black teenagers. Thankfully this part of the crowd was not violent."
Roffers: "What in the hell's going on there?"
Roffers described his emotions and reactions to the attacks outside the park.
"I turned around and looked, there was this black kid standing there laughing, thinking it's funny. My wife's like, 'Let's get out of here.' It's one of those things, you don't expect it. Your reaction to it is, first of all, quite surprised, then you get so angry, it's like, 'What in the hell's going on there? Why are these guys acting like such hoodlums? What are they picking on anybody for?' We were just like cattle being herded out of the park, and they were picking and choosing who they wanted to beat on."
He said his injuries were limited to a headache.
Roffers said the attack wouldn't stop him from attending the State Fair.
"We will be going back," said Roffers.
"It's a family event for us. We get together with our family and we do stuff at the park to enjoy the fair. My biggest concern is that the State Fair Park Police and West Allis get their heads out of their butts and figure out how to do some security over there. This isn't the first year State Fair has been going on. They should know what the heck they've got to do and where they've got to have people in place by now."
He said that the fear spread beyond those who he believed were the target.
"There were a lot of people scared," claimed Roffers.
"There were even some young black girls. They were screaming. They were running across the road. This one girl was like, 'I don't know how I'm going to get out of here. I'm all by myself.' My wife heard her saying that. She said, 'Walk with us. Stay with us and you'll be OK.' We told her we were going down the street. If she needed any assistance, we were just going down to our car. She needed to go quite a way."
"There was this terror going on when you leave the place, you just wonder. Luckily, all the violence that was happening stayed right close by the park entrance. As we got a block away from the park, that's when the cops started showing up."
He said the lack of police and security presence will bring about his complaint up the various channels of State Fair and local police.
"They should be able to provide safety and traffic control," said Roffers. "I've never worried about it before."
He said he would give a written complaint to the State Fair and put in a call to West Allis Police, but that's not all.
"I will be contacting the State Fair Park Board and I'm going to chew on their butts a little bit about what happened."
State Fair spokeswoman: "Unfortunate situation, hopefully an isolated situation."
State Fair Director of Marketing and Communication Kathleen O'Leary told Newsradio 620 WTMJ's "Wisconsin's Morning News" that the incidents should not stop people from coming to the fair.
"Certainly, don't change your plans," said O'Leary. "Please understand that this is an unfortunate situation, hopefully an isolated situation."
Though witnesses had reported incidents inside the fair, she said the problems were mainly outside the fairgrounds.
"Not so much inside," claimed O'Leary.
"We had complete control inside of what was happening inside of our gates. It's what what spread into the neighborhoods."
O'Leary also pointed out that the fair has "taken measures already with the bag checks, when you come into the fair," but will increase authorities' presence for the remaining days at the fair.
"We will be taking severe measures, significant measures. We are in task force already, circling back around, doing everything that we can to make sure the experience is enjoyable and that the safety is insured," said O'Leary.
"They see the yellow security shirts. We have mounted police. We have bike police. We have our patrolling police. We have undercover police. That's all because that's exactly what we want. We want the safety measures intact at every turn."
As Joe Walsh said, “Time to open fire.”
Oh yeah, if that happened in Fair Park it would be a bloodbath. That is a bad area to begin with and the State Fair is always full of yutes. But there are pretty much cops everywhere so I doubt we’ll ever have a riot like that down here.
I don’t think I’ll ever go to the State Fair again, been there and done that, but it is just too scary down there after dark.
Yes I agree with you..That is why people need to carry and know how to use a gun and not be afraid of using them..I have said this over and over and people had better listen up..
Don't be so sure. Everything has its breaking point. Even this.
What? Are they afraid white people will try to carry mace to protect themselves or???
I caught that as well. Gee, I would feel much safer being disarmed?!
more like some under cover cops with these
more like some under cover cops with these
Haven’t been to a State Fair since a young doctor was shot in the head and robbed in the parking lot. I stay away from any business on any Martin Luther King Blvd.
Didn’t Wisconsin just pass a concealed carry law? If so, then these “Yutes” will surely not have it all their own way next year.
Between my wife and I we typically carry 48 total rounds. If we are hanging out with the couple we usually go places with, the total for the four of us is over 100.
The Civil WAR II has begun!
Then when the whites use guns to derend themselves, obama will enact Martial Law.
I consider myself as brave as the next fellow but if several dozen to several hundred young hoodlums came at me, I would try to get away. I would hate to have to do so, but I also would not attempt to rescue anyone else unless they were very dear to me.
On the other hand, if I had a high capacity autoloader and a couple of spare mags, I really do think I would stand up to them. I suspect I would be arrested and tried but somewhere sometime, one has to try and stop it short of sure suicide.
I don't believe he has plans to leave the White House. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just waiting for that national emergency speech........
Concur, if this happened in a “shall issue” state, things would be a little different.
We just experienced this in Pittsburgh Sunday evening. My mom said she heard Glenn Beck warning people that the Rev Jackson was encouraging the blacks youtes to get fired up.
Lock & load, folks. There’s gonna be alot of civil unrest, I’m afraid. These useful idiots will walk right into their slaughter all at the behest os their “leaders”. Sad.
“This might just be a trial run for election 2012..”
I think so. Couple these events with the current media chant that TEA Party members are terrorists and responsible for the lack of jobs or money, and you have the formula.
We need a hero like the Punisher to step forward. It’s time.
Well, as a native, you should go. At least once. Go in the afternoon on a nice day during the week, it can be a hoot. Check out the car show and the Midway, eat some Fletcher’s corny dogs, maybe some fried Twinkies or whatever, have fun.
Ain’t right you never been. But stay away on a Friday night, fo sho. I nearly exited at the south end one time but a cop grabbed me and pointed me the other direction. I was not paying attention, and that man in blue knew it would be suicide for me and my date to have to walk all the way back to where we parked. Thank you DPD.
Because whenever whites fight back, we are branded bigots and attack by the press.
Rest assured that if this ever happens to me or my loved ones, there will be blood. 15 rounds of hollowpoints downrange. They might get me in a rush, but not after they paid a horrible price.
Thank you Obama and his minions for turning this country into Rhodesia.
Maybe Bernard Geatz was right.
Animals we have been coddling and trying to educate,they simply do not have the mental skills to be in a modern, civilized society!
“Why didnt the men in that crowd, being attacked, stand up against them? “
They acted as individuals would, faced with a superior force. If 40 men felt they were pert of a team they’d yell Let’s Roll and move in.
Remember this took only a few minutes- the yute were organized. 120 seconds is not a lot of time to recruit a defensive team.
Also, the men were on defense- probably most had kids and wives to look after, and not go charging alone into a mob of hundreds of hostiles.
The people who organized this probably had the crowd dynamics worked out. They wanted their troops to have a quick and easy success, so that next time, they could be pushed a little further.
Yeah, a huge mistake was made by my ancestors by bringing them people over here against their will.
They’ll never forget, ain’t in their DNA. Their leaders will whip us forever over all that. They are being taught that all white people are evil and it ain’t going away. No amount of “reparations” will ever make them be normal. And not a damn one of them ever experienced that situation, they all have a huge chip on their shoulders that no amount of whitey’s blood will ever erase.
“If Obama loses,”
I think the trouble time will be a few days before the election, if it looks like he’ll lose.
I mean lose big time enough that 15% fraud won’t help.
No, perhaps Charles Manson was right. It’s like Helter Skelter.
This isn’t likely to occur in Arizona for any number of reasons.
It would take just one man with a shotgun picking them off one by one as in any zombie movie or movie where they’re infected with “the rage”...take your pick. Boom! Splat! Boom! Splat! It would end in a heartbeat. Of course, there would then be the incessant outrage and on-air tears on nightly new programs devoted to white racism violence with no mention at all of what precipitated the response, and then the lawsuits from obnoxious little nudges from “men” named Harvey and Barry.
Where have you gone, Mayor Daley (the real Mayor Daley) and Mayor Rizzo? This type of thing would have ended before it started courtesy of the end of a nightstick of some giant Irish cops. Can anyone believe these men were Democrats given what that party has become?
God help us all.
Oh, and citizens of WI: 1) you get what you vote for, 2) wake up! and 3) get some ballz.
Unfortunate, yes. Isolated, no.
“No, perhaps Charles Manson was right.”
lol Do you have dune buggies and food hidden in the hills?
Manson, McVeigh, the Norweigian guy, Karl Armstrong were all wrong. None of their “trigger event” actions worked.
“blacks were looking for and beating white people”. . . . and so it begins! Lock and load one forty round clip and prepare to defend yourself! the cops won’t!
Someone should have mowed down a few of these thugs with their car and said they feared for their live. If you don’t own a gun buy one.
Good advice, that !
I have a rather small spray can of pepper spray I carry in my purse. It may be I need to upgrade to a large pepper spray gun. You’re right, people have got to do something. White people have been cowed by the cries of “racist”. I’ve had it with that.
Yeah, a huge mistake was made by my ancestors by bringing them people over here against their will.
Theyll never forget, aint in their DNA.
DISAGREE - THERE ARE MANY BLACK PEOPLE WHO WANT GOOD JOBS AND POSITIVE FUTURES FOR THEIR FAMILIES - THEY ARE NOT THE ONES BEATING PEOPLE FOR SPORT - SAME DNA THOUGH.
Their leaders will whip us forever over all that.
AGREED - SHARPTON AND JESSEE JACKSON DON’T PLAN TO RETIRE SOON AND THEY’LL KEEP THE GRIEVANCE FROM HEALING BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
They are being taught that all white people are evil and it aint going away. No amount of reparations will ever make them be normal. And not a damn one of them ever experienced that situation, they all have a huge chip on their shoulders that no amount of whiteys blood will ever erase.
DISAGREE IF YOU MEAN ‘ALL BLACK PEOPLE’ OR AGREE IF YOU MEAN ‘ALL THOSE BEATING PEOPLE FOR SPORT BASED ON RACE’
I think that the anger at their life’s prospects and own decisions is being harnessed and re-directed toward a race. Today it’s whites, tomorrow it may be Latinos or Asians - whatever the race hustlers need. And yes, I am finally beginning to wonder if the DNC is prepping them for riots approaching 2012 so that people will feel they ‘have’ to vote for Obama just to keep the peace.
“They” did the same thing at my high school in 75. Three days of Holders people roaming through the halls in a vast crowd. Beating up people and running back into the pack
Pepper spray can be very effective but with these mobs I guess you would have to have a mosquito fogger truck to have enough.
I will say it saved me from a rottweiler once and the spray was an early version which was only 1/10 of one percent oleo-resin.
Sounds like a swell place!”
I was born in Milwaukee...and I don’t say that with any pride. I live in Wisconsin but there are two places that I don’t visit...Milwaukee and Madison. If we could give those two cities away I think we would have a much better state.
Iowa has “Shall Issue” CCW now. I just got my permit last week. Believe it or not, one of the places specifically spelled out in the law that you can't carry is the Iowa State Fairgrounds in Des Moines.
Guess where this “beat whitey” thing originated? In Des Moines at the fairgrounds.
“Everything has its breaking point. Even this.”
I think we’re about there. I tell you this: If my wife had been attacked by these punks I would have busted some caps. I’d no doubt be arrested for doing so, but I would — and will — do anything I have to do to protect my family.
At that point who’ll give a shit?
No, I don’t mean all black people, sorry if I came off like all that. I know some keepers, but the yutes of all races are a waste of skin, for the most part. Generation “L” as far as I can see. Not all of ‘em, but way too many. The husband of my god-daughter is a black man, but he has values, and I like the hell of out of him. Good people, Jeremy and his whole family as far as I have seen. Good normal folks.
I can only pray I don’t ever find myself in a situation like those people at that fair did. I’ll have to defend mine, and it won’t go pretty.
I’m old enough to remember Nixon’s outreach campaign, which hired Mr Dynamite himself James Brown encouraging youts to “stay in school”, which Soul Brother No. 1 hadn’t done hisself, but that’s beside the point, which is that nothing has had a positive effect on the barbaric ghetto subculture for 50 years.
Wasp spray would do the trick
I think a large number of prepared citizens will use the occasion to reduce the population of urban feral humans threatening their families.
Use your second amendment rights on one of these crowds and you will go to jail. By the time the press gets finished with you, you’ll be a white supremist, tea party supporting psychopath domestic terrorist. You were probably using a high powered military style assault weapon, too. Count on it.
“Thank you Obama and his minions for turning this country into Rhodesia.”
Well, Rhodesia is no more (now it is Zimbabwe). But your point is well taken. The Obastard wants to do just that.