Skip to comments.We don't do water cannon, we rely on consent ( Theresa May, Home Secretary UK)
Posted on 08/09/2011 5:14:02 AM PDT by expat1000
Vigilantes were forced onto the streets last night to protect their homes and businesses after police failed to materialise at many of the scenes of looting and violence which swept across London.
As officers lost control of the streets locals were forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks and chasing looters away from their properties.
In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks. One man said: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.' Despite increasing calls for the police to get tough with the rioters, Home Secretary Theresa May today sparked anger as she appeared to dismiss the notions that water cannons and even the Army could be used to ensure violent scenes are not repeated tonight.
As police were slammed for appearing to let looters run riot under their noses, Mrs May instead advocated a more softly-softly approach.
She said: 'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'
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You seem to postulate that all of these wannabees somehow were “injured” by a shooting on a thug who yes has his rights and if they were violated it goes to the laws to be dealt with. Not several thousand idiots to go and break into shops and stores to show their anger. What in your twisted logic accomodates their “injury” to visit it upon innocent people who did not fire the gun or participate in the action in the first place.
Ohio State (I think you meant Kent State, maybe you were just misinformed) the “students” did this as a movement to show they were in control, once they took the building they asked each other. The National Guard abused their rights and should have been prosecuted for it.
Anarchy in any form is not allowable, it is our right to overthrow a government which has become tyrannical and the framers knew it, and tyranny can take other forms like creating an environment where the “governed” think they are entitled to harm others as they damned well please because they are somehow entitled to take anothers denial as their own.
To hell with water cannons, use machine guns!!!
I ain't buyin' it.
We live among Mexicans and Central Americans. My prayer group has some lovely, Spirit-filled gentleman who were not (from their testimonies and tattoos) always so Spirit-filled and gentlemanly. If a mob comes after Brother Roberto's paint shop or Brother Vicente's Salvadoran bakery, they'll be met with more than just prayer!
Enough “mow them down” and it actually gets better. I’ve been to London. They have streets that are both long and wide ~ plenty of room for the body bags.
By now it's an hereditary mental illness ~ anybody who does not have it should LEAVE NOW.
UK will not get better for centuries with this crowd in charge.
Sometimes it’s not about having enough police, or even having guns ~ sometimes it’s about not having a strong people’s militia ready, willing and able to leap to assist the forces of public order when they are most needed. UK could certainly use a uniformed reserve force. Try this little recruiting video from the Indianapolis Police Reserve ~ http://www.impdreserves.com/
the UK is lead by the fools of the distopian paradise of the movie “demolition man”.
cue the pictures of the LA riot’s korean shop keepers defending their shops.
cue the pictures of the post huricane andrew armed citizens.
This minister should have to PERSONALLY go and stop a rioter with no backup to herself.
there is a school of thought, all the weak remained in europe.
Don’t use water cannons—use real cannons! Napoleon used a whiff of Grapeshot to end a riot in Paris once. You Brits need to grow a spine or snap the chains on and let the Islamic people rule. Your liberal polices and “kindness” destroyed your nation. Mobs of foreigners did what The Spanish Armada and Hitler couldn’t do—but that was when England was ruled by Men.
What if he is actively engaged in shooting at police at the time?
"Sir, you may proceed your way. But you should be aware that we may go before a magistrate and apply for an rrest warrant."
Maybe others here, but not me. I'd prefer to have armed citizens arming themselves to the teeth to fight marauding criminals bent on assaulting innocent people and destroying property.
As those Koreans in L.A. figured out back in 1992, having no police force at all is better than having a useless, ineffective one that is deliberately restrained from doing what they're paid to do.
Yeah I did mean Kent state.
And your point about courts is exactly right....the murdered drug dealer was entitled to a trial for whatever the coppers had evidence on. They killed him instead, then tried to make out like he had shot at them. Only when the ballistics were done, the alleged bad guy shot was from a po po gun, imagine, that. Thought that only happened int the US
Well, since you were fortunate enough to have been taught civics, perhaps you remember this old saw: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
For what it's worth, the most recent statement from the IPCC indicates that it was indeed incorrect. It now appears that only police weapons were fired. A weapon was recovered from the car, but it hadn't been fired - and there are even some reports that it was hidden in a sock. Not that any of this makes any difference to the rights and wrongs....
Actually, no. True the coppers did assert they had been shot at, but the fact is, when they ran the ballistics, the alleged bad guy bullet was from a po po gun.............
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