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I should have picked Hillary over Obama
St Louis Post Disgrace ^ | August 11, 2011 | BILL McCLELLAN

Posted on 08/11/2011 5:28:38 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

I was splashing around in Lake Michigan last week when the realization hit me like a wave — I was wrong about Barack Obama. I should have voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago.

At the time of the primary, the decision seemed easy. I saw in Obama the same qualities Jack Kerouac saw in Dean Moriarty in "On the Road." He was 'something new, long prophesied, long a-coming."

Hillary was not new. She represented the second act of "Billary," and I had tired of that play long before it ended its eight-year run.

So I voted for Obama in the primary and then again in the general election. I even left the election night party at the Pageant — a party with an open bar and filled with state legislators, union guys and other acquaintances — to go to the Chase Park Plaza, where the Obama people were celebrating. I knew almost nobody at that second party, but I was there when the networks declared that Obama was the next president. People cried and hugged. I got teary myself. A black president. The times they are a-changing.

Indeed. They keep getting worse.

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To: Second Amendment First

Had Hillary won, she also would have failed and they would have said ‘I wish I had voted for hussein’ at this point too.

They need to face it, Clinton only had it good for a few short years to an insane tech boom. He then went after that market (Microsoft especially) and helped bring it down. The 2000 on recession was what he left us, so I dunno why they love the idea of them so much. Rose colored glasses I guess.

But back to the point, I don’t think McCain would’ve done that much better either. Neither side offered up much in even the primaries last time that were viable.

41 posted on 08/11/2011 6:03:34 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillary and the Black Panthers: The Real Story
Richard Poe
Tuesday, Aug. 19, 2003

A series of hard-Left mentors introduced Hillary to the brass-knuckle realities of revolutionary activism. As a Wellesley undergraduate, she met and interviewed radical organizer Saul Alinsky, whose Machiavellian tactics she admired. Hillary's senior thesis supported Alinsky's call for class warfare. (4)

At Yale, Hillary found a new Svengali in the form of left-wing law professor Thomas Emerson, known around campus as "Tommy the Commie." Emerson recruited Hillary and other students to help monitor the trial of the New Haven Nine for civil rights violations. Hillary took charge of the operation, scheduling the students in shifts, so that student monitors would always be present in the courtroom. She befriended and worked closely with Panther lawyer Charles Garry. (5)

Some believe that the enormous pressure exerted by the Left helped ensure light sentences for the New Haven Nine. Whether or not this is true, the punishments were mild.

"Only one of the killers was still in prison in 1977," reports John McCaslin in the Washington Times. "The gunman, Warren Kimbro, got a Harvard scholarship and became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College. Ericka Huggins, who boiled the water for Mr. Rackley's torture, got elected to a California school board." (6)

Hillary's defenders argue that she played no "significant" role in the New Haven Nine's defense. This is semantic hairsplitting. Obviously, Hillary was less "significant" than Charles Garry or "Tommy the Commie" Emerson. But Hillary served as a trusted lieutenant to these movers and shakers. Moreover, she had a national profile as a campus activist. Hillary was no rank-and-file student protester, as her apologists claim.

Indeed, Hillary's work for the Panthers won her a summer internship at the Berkeley office of attorney Robert Treuhaft in 1972. A hardline Stalinist, Treuhaft had quit the Communist Party in 1958 only because it was losing members and no longer provided a good platform for his activism. (7) "Treuhaft is a man who dedicated his entire legal career to advancing the agenda of the Soviet Communist Party and the KGB," notes historian Stephen Schwartz. (8)

The defense of the New Haven Nine marked Hillary's initiation into the sinister underworld of the hard-core, revolutionary Left. To my knowledge, Hillary has never publicly renounced nor apologized for her role in that movement.

From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives

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"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo [the police].

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):

42 posted on 08/11/2011 6:09:11 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page:
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To: Second Amendment First
RE: Clinton-Obama 2008 presidential debate

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And, Senator [OBAMA], if you get the nomination, you'll have to beat back these distractions.

And I want to give Senator Clinton a chance to respond, but first a follow-up on this issue, general theme of patriotism, in your relationships. A gentleman named William Ayers. He was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He's never apologized for that.

And, in fact, on 9/11, he was quoted in the New York Times saying, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." An early organizing meeting for your State Senate campaign was held at his house and your campaign has said you are "friendly."

Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?

OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George.

The fact is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements? Because I certainly don't agree with those, either.

So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't.

CLINTON: Well, I think that is a fair general statement, but I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.

And, if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York and, I would hope, to every American, because they were published on 9/11, and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more.

And what they did was set bombs. And in some instances, people died. So it is -- I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about.

And I have no doubt -- I know Senator Obama's a good man and I respect him greatly, but I think that this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising.

43 posted on 08/11/2011 6:09:22 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page:
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To: Tolsti2

Ace McCain was run to lose, like Dole.

44 posted on 08/11/2011 6:10:12 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Second Amendment First

McClellan is an ultra-left wing, pro-union liberal. Let him eat sh!t. Another moron that got caught up in the moment. Kind’a like tying one on and waking up with a skank the next morning and saying “my God what have I done?”.

45 posted on 08/11/2011 6:11:20 AM PDT by mmanager
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To: Liz
RE:"The scariest words in the history of the US was when Pres-elect Obama told a crowd, "We are hours away from fundamentally changing America." They crowd clapped and cheered."

How about when the first victim First lady Michelle told us that she and Barrack will not let us be comfortable again?

I dont remember hearing that from Nancy Reagan in 1980.

46 posted on 08/11/2011 6:15:55 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Second Amendment First

No Mr. McClellan, the blame goes to idiots like you that gave money, time and your votes to obama. Just idiots like you and no one else.

47 posted on 08/11/2011 6:19:11 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Second Amendment First

This is interesting. Watch for more of these types of stories. Last night, Chris Matthews actually had a segment that was critical of Obama. It was about Obama’s lack of leadership. He was asking his two guests what Obama had to do to project himself as a strong leader. I paid attention because the two guests where Bill Richardson and Robert Reich, both Billary men. It made me wonder if Hillary is sticking her toe in the water trying to determine if she could successfully challenge Obama in a primary.

48 posted on 08/11/2011 6:20:52 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillary's is nothing but the Marxist 8-track version of Obama.

"Eight years in the grinder"? What a joke.

After failing at the debacle of "Hillarycare", the slug went back underground and worked behind the scenes at destroying the country, insulating herself from accountability and ultimately sailing into office as Senator on her husband's coattails.

49 posted on 08/11/2011 6:21:50 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: annelizly

and they say leftists don’t have a religion...

50 posted on 08/11/2011 6:24:23 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Liz

This picture of Axelrod reminds me of what the Meathead would have looked like had “All in the Family” lasted this long . . .

51 posted on 08/11/2011 6:26:24 AM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: sickoflibs
How about when Moochelle told us that she and Barrack will not let us be comfortable again?

The both of them are conspiring against America and Americans.

And let's not forget---Hillary and Bill tried to tell America what was happening---but Uncle Teddy Kennedy got rough with them, and told them to back off.

52 posted on 08/11/2011 6:26:31 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“Folks, Mrs. Bill “Slick Willie” Clinton is every bit the Marxist/communist that Obammie the Commie is.”

Yep...birds of a feather...

53 posted on 08/11/2011 6:29:15 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillary would have been worse.

She is more methodical in her approach, less impulsive.

We would still have Gov't healthcare with her, for example, but she would have done all her initiatives in a more piecemeal the boiling frog analogy.

With Obama, we get stuff thrust on us violently so, even though he still tries to hide who he is, he's easier to expose IMO.

54 posted on 08/11/2011 6:31:22 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
Heh---good one.

Axelrod makes my day when he gets that "look" when he's before the cameras---the look of trying to look "harmless."

"Hey, Obama, hope you caught my 'Harmless Act' on MTP."

55 posted on 08/11/2011 6:31:39 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Second Amendment First

No, idiot. You should have registered as a Republican, voted in the primary for Duncan Hunter, and then gone out and worked hard against anyone the Democrats put up.

I’m sick and tired of the St. Hillary crap.

The Clintons are every bit as insidious and Marxist as Obama, and Hillary, if anything, is to the LEFT of her husband. Hillary fought for Palestinian terrorists, she fought for the Black Panthers, prevented the shipment of M-1 Garands from Korea to the U.S. for sale, signed the UN treaty to regulate sales of firearms to private parties, undercut Israel, and on top of all that, she and her husband are outright criminals. So far, at least, I have no knowledge of Obama actually being involved in rapes or murders, a la the Arkansas Clinton Criminal Syndicate.

They are both bad equally in their own evil ways.

So stop the St. Hillary tripe, PLEASE!!!

56 posted on 08/11/2011 6:32:44 AM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Agreed. Clinton is the same leftist as Obama.

Both are dangerous and both need to be marginalized. Hope that the Speaker can step in as Obama is marginalized and take management of the country from his Speaker’s bench. That is really the only way around this mess until the 2012 election.

That and requiring ID in every state to vote.

57 posted on 08/11/2011 6:34:00 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Don’t believe this new leftist diversion that she is some sort of a hawk or centrist.

...or the smartest woman in the Milky Way.

58 posted on 08/11/2011 6:34:59 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Second Amendment First
According to that same story, closing the loophole for hedge fund managers would save the Treasury $20 billion over 10 years.

Clueless assclown, right now that's 5 days .. that's right, 5 days worth of deficit.

Revenues are NOT the problem, SPENDING is the problem.

59 posted on 08/11/2011 6:38:22 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Left winger regret is that the Kenyan lizard is a loser, not that his policies have hurt America. They would love the Kenyan if he sent us all to a gulag

60 posted on 08/11/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by y6162
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