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I should have picked Hillary over Obama
St Louis Post Disgrace ^ | August 11, 2011 | BILL McCLELLAN

Posted on 08/11/2011 5:28:38 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

I was splashing around in Lake Michigan last week when the realization hit me like a wave — I was wrong about Barack Obama. I should have voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago.

At the time of the primary, the decision seemed easy. I saw in Obama the same qualities Jack Kerouac saw in Dean Moriarty in "On the Road." He was 'something new, long prophesied, long a-coming."

Hillary was not new. She represented the second act of "Billary," and I had tired of that play long before it ended its eight-year run.

So I voted for Obama in the primary and then again in the general election. I even left the election night party at the Pageant — a party with an open bar and filled with state legislators, union guys and other acquaintances — to go to the Chase Park Plaza, where the Obama people were celebrating. I knew almost nobody at that second party, but I was there when the networks declared that Obama was the next president. People cried and hugged. I got teary myself. A black president. The times they are a-changing.

Indeed. They keep getting worse.

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KEYWORDS: guilt; hillary; remorse; white
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To: Liz

This picture of Axelrod reminds me of what the Meathead would have looked like had “All in the Family” lasted this long . . .


51 posted on 08/11/2011 6:26:24 AM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: sickoflibs
How about when Moochelle told us that she and Barrack will not let us be comfortable again?

The both of them are conspiring against America and Americans.

And let's not forget---Hillary and Bill tried to tell America what was happening---but Uncle Teddy Kennedy got rough with them, and told them to back off.

52 posted on 08/11/2011 6:26:31 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“Folks, Mrs. Bill “Slick Willie” Clinton is every bit the Marxist/communist that Obammie the Commie is.”

Yep...birds of a feather...


53 posted on 08/11/2011 6:29:15 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillary would have been worse.

She is more methodical in her approach, less impulsive.

We would still have Gov't healthcare with her, for example, but she would have done all her initiatives in a more piecemeal way...like the boiling frog analogy.

With Obama, we get stuff thrust on us violently so, even though he still tries to hide who he is, he's easier to expose IMO.

54 posted on 08/11/2011 6:31:22 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
Heh---good one.

Axelrod makes my day when he gets that "look" when he's before the cameras---the look of trying to look "harmless."

"Hey, Obama, hope you caught my 'Harmless Act' on MTP."

55 posted on 08/11/2011 6:31:39 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Second Amendment First

No, idiot. You should have registered as a Republican, voted in the primary for Duncan Hunter, and then gone out and worked hard against anyone the Democrats put up.

I’m sick and tired of the St. Hillary crap.

The Clintons are every bit as insidious and Marxist as Obama, and Hillary, if anything, is to the LEFT of her husband. Hillary fought for Palestinian terrorists, she fought for the Black Panthers, prevented the shipment of M-1 Garands from Korea to the U.S. for sale, signed the UN treaty to regulate sales of firearms to private parties, undercut Israel, and on top of all that, she and her husband are outright criminals. So far, at least, I have no knowledge of Obama actually being involved in rapes or murders, a la the Arkansas Clinton Criminal Syndicate.

They are both bad equally in their own evil ways.

So stop the St. Hillary tripe, PLEASE!!!


56 posted on 08/11/2011 6:32:44 AM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Agreed. Clinton is the same leftist as Obama.

Both are dangerous and both need to be marginalized. Hope that the Speaker can step in as Obama is marginalized and take management of the country from his Speaker’s bench. That is really the only way around this mess until the 2012 election.

That and requiring ID in every state to vote.


57 posted on 08/11/2011 6:34:00 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Don’t believe this new leftist diversion that she is some sort of a hawk or centrist.

...or the smartest woman in the Milky Way.

58 posted on 08/11/2011 6:34:59 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Second Amendment First
According to that same story, closing the loophole for hedge fund managers would save the Treasury $20 billion over 10 years.

Clueless assclown, right now that's 5 days .. that's right, 5 days worth of deficit.

Revenues are NOT the problem, SPENDING is the problem.

59 posted on 08/11/2011 6:38:22 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Left winger regret is that the Kenyan lizard is a loser, not that his policies have hurt America. They would love the Kenyan if he sent us all to a gulag


60 posted on 08/11/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by y6162
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After 42 Days FR Is Still Short Of It's Goal

If Free Republic Ends We Lose

And This Man Wins

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61 posted on 08/11/2011 6:46:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillie. Barry.

SSDD.

Same...er, scat, different Dem.

62 posted on 08/11/2011 6:48:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: Liz
(Axelrod to Barry)
***"Americans are too stupid to understand how smart you are." ***

Or.....
"Americans are so smart they just can't understand how utterly stupid you really are."

If Barry has an IQ above 85 I'll eat War and Peace. [page by tedious page] )

(90 is lowest limit for a 'normal' IQ)

63 posted on 08/11/2011 6:48:57 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: Condor51
If Barry has an IQ above 85 I'll eat War and Peace [page by tedious page).

O-o-o-o-o-o.....you want ketchup with that?


64 posted on 08/11/2011 6:53:46 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“President Barack Obama is facing mounting doubts within his own party about his re-election prospects, with fellow Democrats beginning to ask if Hillary Clinton would have made a better president.”

Too bad these retrospective regrets didn’t occur prior to the 2008 election. Bad as he was, I think even McCain could have beaten a Clinton re-tread.


65 posted on 08/11/2011 6:54:21 AM PDT by DrC
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To: annelizly

A YELLOW DOG PRESIDENT


66 posted on 08/11/2011 7:00:31 AM PDT by Broker (Who voted for that yellow dog?)
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To: Liz
Yes, some ketchup and mustard would be nice.

But since Barry will never prove he has an IQ of anything, like not even a normal one, I have nothing to worry about.

67 posted on 08/11/2011 7:00:39 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: Second Amendment First
References to Kerouac make me think about censorship. Some would say that censorship is bad when imposed from without. I probably agree that most of the time it is. On the other hand, the Biblical virtue of self-control implies an ability to censor oneself, and that is good.

Applied to the beat generation's books, self-control would mean to me that I choose not to step in a sludge pit of toxic turd. What I've read of that absurdist literature tells me that they intended to destroy our culture and replace it with their own - where their lusts could run free.

I strongly believe that the idea of self-control is intrinsically the foundation of all liberty. To control oneself, rather than be controlled, is to be free. The Reformation profoundly influenced and made possible the American Constitution. John Adams makes the point when he said the real revolution didn't occur in 1776, but in the preceding generations whose character was formed by the preaching of the Gospel. It started in the souls of our ancestor countrymen, and worked around to our body politic.

Back to the beat generation's literature: I know too many people who really admire that stuff. And their character shows it. And just as the souls of men influenced by the Gospel resulted in liberty, so the souls of people today influenced by the ideas of Kerouac - and many many others - are resulting in a loss of liberty. Our political liberty is the public manifestation of individual self-control. Our loss of liberty is the manifestation of the loss of individual self-control.

68 posted on 08/11/2011 7:03:08 AM PDT by hfr (Liberalism is a moral disorder that leads to mental disorder)
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To: Second Amendment First
Dear BILL McCLELLAN

Here's your sign:




69 posted on 08/11/2011 7:07:32 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: Second Amendment First
Did you read the letters after the article? Yes some of them are sorry they voted for obama but they are not any smarter for it.
70 posted on 08/11/2011 7:17:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Second Amendment First
The guy starts off by admitting to being an idiot, and then proceeded as if an idiot actually has something important to say.
71 posted on 08/11/2011 7:18:37 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Second Amendment First
saw in Obama the same qualities Jack Kerouac saw in Dean Moriarty in "On the Road."

It never fails to amaze me that liberals can't discern the differences between reality and the artificial realm of movies. Do they have no other basis on which to measure a person's abilities than what movie character the person reminds them of?

Of course, that the person only last week regretted voting for Barry says volumes about their lack of intellectual depth. That he would instead vote for Hillary...hopefully his progeny inherited their ability for thought from some wiser ancestor who hadn't yet become movie-bound.

72 posted on 08/11/2011 7:28:21 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Tolsti2
Had Hillary won, she also would have failed and they would have said ‘I wish I had voted for hussein’ at this point too. They need to face it, Clinton only had it good for a few short years to an insane tech boom. He then went after that market (Microsoft especially) and helped bring it down. The 2000 on recession was what he left us, so I dunno why they love the idea of them so much. Rose colored glasses I guess. But back to the point, I don’t think McCain would’ve done that much better either. Neither side offered up much in even the primaries last time that were viable.

Very good points. Had Hillary won, she would have been much more clever about her Marxism IMO and would probably be on track to win a 2nd term. She was much more tested in politics and could have triangulated like Bill did so successfully.

I also don't think McCain would have been a good President. He is way too squishy for my tastes and although we would not have gotten Obamacare, I think he would have floundered around and had a lousy economy anyway for which we would have been blamed.

It is interesting that the author of this article admits what the problem with O is at the end of the piece: O was never challenged in his life. He was surrounded by people who wanted to see a black kid succeed. IOW: (wait for it...) affirmative action! Bingo. He would never have been elected had his skin been his mother's color instead of his father's.

The good news for us is that he has now had his chance and blown it big time. Had Hillary won, O would still have been waiting in the wings.

73 posted on 08/11/2011 7:32:55 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Second Amendment First
Indeed. They keep getting worse.

Hey bill, you are probably one of the "white guilt" voters, and we tried to warn you idiots.

74 posted on 08/11/2011 7:48:12 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, please let it rain in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Sure, Hillary would be a slightly better president, but that’s like saying a horse with only one broken leg will run faster than a horse with two broken legs. Hillary is still a statist. The only thing going for her is she’d have Bill, who actually cut capital gains taxes, scolding her when she was going to do something particular stupid i.e. liberal. “You want to raise taxes in the middle of recession, that sure is a dumb thing to do” he’d say to her while looking up from his “Helen Thomas and Janet Reno Gone Wild” videos.


75 posted on 08/11/2011 7:55:06 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

She is a hardcore leftist who agrees with everything Obama is doing...

...including our involvement in Libya. As Sec. of State she should have spoken up or resigned in protest.

She is as guilty as Obama.


76 posted on 08/11/2011 8:08:30 AM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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To: tsowellfan
...are they sacrificing their principals out of fear of how it may appear?

That in a nutshell is the modus operandi of the RINO members of the Party.

77 posted on 08/11/2011 8:24:55 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Socialism always sounds good, until the flash mob beats the crap out of your kid.


78 posted on 08/11/2011 8:30:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (George Lopez is the black hole of funny. Nothing funny can escape his suck.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Hillary wouldn’t have gone on an American Apology tour like Obama. I believe that in her heart, she and Bill love America, I don’t think that Obama does.


79 posted on 08/11/2011 8:49:02 AM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: Logic n' Reason
in that diaper full of crap called the "democrat party"

*sniff* That's poetry right there! *wipes a tear*

I'm SOOO stealing that.

80 posted on 08/11/2011 8:56:59 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: FrogMom
*sniff* That's poetry right there! *wipes a tear*
I'm SOOO stealing that.

Mom: I forgot to copyright the phrase. It is now in the public domain! Have at it....and enjoy.

Presents a wonderfully accurate and graphic image of exactly who and what the dem/lib/prog/pops are, no??

LOL!!!

81 posted on 08/11/2011 9:19:42 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Yes, accurate and graphic. I love it!

In the words of the LOLCats, “You has a talent”.


82 posted on 08/11/2011 9:28:53 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: dread78645

[ Letmee get this straight ... You voted for Obama to prove you weren’t a racist, and now you want to vote for Hillary! to prove you’re not an idiot? The Stupid is strong in this one ... ]

LoL....


83 posted on 08/11/2011 9:29:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: FrogMom
I love cats!

I thunk I shoulda been in advertizing!!

84 posted on 08/11/2011 9:33:16 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Second Amendment First

“I should have picked Hillary over Obama”,
Oh NO, then America would not have shed it white guilt for slavery , or something.
Were obammy white he’d have NEVER won,


85 posted on 08/11/2011 10:14:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Don't trust the F.B.I. the C.I.A. and specially the B.A.T.F.)
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To: tsowellfan
For those who feel that way, are they sacrificing their principals out of fear of how it may appear?

Yes, I believe they are. Principles should come first. Although it would be very satisfying to beat the Dems at their own game.

I like West a lot, but I think he is too intemperate to be President. His attack on Wasserman-Schultz was over the top. He could have defended himself in a much more convincing and controlled manner. I hope he doesn't lose his cool at some point in a way that does him permanent harm politically.

86 posted on 08/11/2011 6:12:01 PM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sickoflibs:
Obama realizes the wind has changed on deficits and spending, and at the least he will play act like he agrees looking to re-election and poll testing everything he proposes.
/bingo
Bill McClellan: [snip] I was wrong about Barack Obama. I should have voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago. [/snip]
McClellan was and is wrong about voting for any Demwit in the first place.


87 posted on 08/11/2011 6:54:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Second Amendment First

Should Hillary Clinton Challenge Obama in the Primaries?
Could anyone beat Obama in a Democratic primary contest?
With a new poll showing that 32 percent of Democrats are eager for President Obama to be challenged by somebody in his own party, is it time for a Democrat to get into the 2012 primary?

http://www.usnews.com/news/washington-whispers/articles/2011/08/11/should-hillary-clinton-challenge-obama-in-the-primaries

Be sure to look at the poll, Which Democrat could beat Obama for the 2012 presidential nomination? Just for fun I voted for Al Gore but Hillary had over 80%! Are Obama’s days numbered?


88 posted on 08/13/2011 1:09:05 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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