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Raw Food Co-op Is Raided in California
New York Times ^ | 8/4/11 | Ian Lovett

Posted on 08/11/2011 6:57:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Raw food enthusiasts fit right in here, in the earthy, health-conscious beach communities of Venice and Santa Monica, along with the farmers’ markets, health food stores and vegan restaurants.

But this week, the police cleared the shelves of Rawesome, an establishment in Venice Beach, loading $70,000 of raw, organic produce and dairy products on the back of a flatbed truck.

And then, on Thursday, James Stewart, the proprietor, was arraigned on charges of illegally making, improperly labeling and illegally selling raw milk products, as well as other charges related to Rawesome’s operations. Two farmers who work with Rawesome were also named in the district attorney’s complaint.

Though it is legal to sell unpasteurized milk products in California, Rawesome, which has operated in Venice for more than six years, never obtained a license to do so — or, indeed, any type of business license.

Lela Buttery, a trustee at Rawesome, said it had no license because it was not a store. Instead, she called it a “club.” Club members paid an annual fee, which allowed them to peruse the produce, milk products and honey on Rawesome’s shelves, which they paid for — $7 for a pint of raw goat’s milk — to cover the cost of production. Members also signed waivers to signal they understood the risks of consuming raw food.

Rawesome is staffed by volunteers, who take home food for their efforts, and no one, Ms. Buttery said, is making money from his or her work there.

The raid on Rawesome has riled people here who say that unpasteurized milk is safer and healthier. About 150 raw food advocates gathered at the Los Angeles County Courthouse on Thursday to oppose the crackdown.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: dairy; milk; rawmilk; stateregulation

1 posted on 08/11/2011 6:57:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
http://www.rawesome.com/ - if that is their web site The web site leaves no doubt on their products being "raw food". I don't see any room for deceptive labeling when that is the whole point of the location. Assuming they are truthful in the statement that this is a co-op, the feds may inconceivably have taken an unexpected step in a surprising direction - exceeding their authority. Who would have guessed that the humble and civil Obama Regime would have overstepped their bounds over something so trivial?
2 posted on 08/11/2011 7:06:12 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: nickcarraway

Didn’t we just yesterday have an article extolling CA as one of five states most unfriendly to business?


3 posted on 08/11/2011 7:06:28 PM PDT by wita
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To: nickcarraway
Yoot mobs and raging illegal immigration, but what are these redundant government orgs worried about? They are frightened of a product safely consumed by humans for thousands of years. Did obama make the call to take them out? Was he in the situation room focused like a laser?
4 posted on 08/11/2011 7:06:48 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: nickcarraway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1gvPmA_c8


5 posted on 08/11/2011 7:07:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: nickcarraway

Let them sell it. It’s not being advertised as something it isn’t. I personally wouldn’t drink raw milk , but that’s just me. I should have that choice. The folks should at least have a business license though


6 posted on 08/11/2011 7:07:48 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA

This is appalling. Why doesn’t the government crack down on something that’s actually dangerous, like illegal aliens.


7 posted on 08/11/2011 7:10:33 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: nickcarraway

Which very unhealthy activity should your government protect you from?

1) engaging in anal sex with an HIV-infected man

2) riding the same bus as an illegal alien with a drug-resistant strain of TB

3) drinking raw milk sold by a farmer who practices strict sanitary practices


8 posted on 08/11/2011 7:11:17 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: nickcarraway

2 of the people taken into custody were held with bail amounts in excess of 20,000. For raw milk.

The co-founder was held for 4 days before his attorney could get his bail reduced to 30,000; and a total gag order. He’s not allowed to speak about the occasion at all.

This is the second time Rawesome foods has been raided by armed SWAT teams. There are vidoes of the first raid on youtube showing officers walking through the co-op with guns drawn and raised to firing position.

“Control the oil, you control the nation. Control the food, you control the people” H. Kissinger


9 posted on 08/11/2011 7:12:09 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: gaijin

Can you believe they have TIME for this? 20 agents raided A ONE WOMAN dairy farm..!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=YLBoi-CfJIY

I WONDER why we have budget over-runs, you know?


10 posted on 08/11/2011 7:12:41 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy

Amen!


11 posted on 08/11/2011 7:22:01 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Pollster1

This sort of harassment of food co-ops has been going on for years, it didn’t just start. It has the look of an unholy alliance of federal regulators with large agribusiness. Federal agencies have been writing rules that are convenient for agribusiness and very hard on small farmers. This includes mandatory ID tags on livestock and requiring that they use centralized slaughterhouses. The battle against raw milk goes back decades.

There is a necessary concern to prevent food-borne pathogens but it shouldn’t require the elimination of small producers and specialty raw foods. Small producers are usually vastly more hygienic than industrial scale agribusiness.


12 posted on 08/11/2011 7:22:09 PM PDT by Pelham (OAA+bama, steering America's economy into the iceberg since 2008.)
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To: nickcarraway
I am not siding with the state but the business owner need to get a license/permit to keep the feds outta their business.
13 posted on 08/11/2011 7:26:35 PM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: goodwithagun
They are frightened of a product safely consumed by humans for thousands of years.

bears repeating....

14 posted on 08/11/2011 7:33:10 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Agenda21: Dept. of Life, Dept. of Liberty and the Dept. of Happiness)
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To: nickcarraway

The police seriously don’t have anything better to do with their time than raid coops selling raw milk?

Sounds to me like they need to fire a cops, since they’re obviously overstaffed, and repeal a few stupid laws, since they’re obviously overlegislated.


15 posted on 08/11/2011 7:34:49 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: goodwithagun

The food chain/supply is under attack by the Feds. Safety is not a blip on their screen; it’s all about control and eventually, if we allow it, starvation.


16 posted on 08/11/2011 7:37:22 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Cows must be milked. There is no way they will eliminate dairy cows. If they try to totally subvert the ag industry, we will go back to having small neighborhood dairies where, if you are known, you will be able to purchase milk right out of the bulk tank. BYOB and you will know they are clean. It is the best tasting milk, cream and homemade butter you can imagine.

Lord, maybe we can even bring back the small
family-operated neighborhood cheese factory.

Milkeasies. Back to the future.


17 posted on 08/11/2011 7:46:17 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Realman30; mrreaganaut

Actually, it sounds like the owner has a lawyer, with the ‘club’ aspect she should have been covered legally, at least according to MrR (attorney).

If it were a tax issue, then the bartering may have been an issue.


18 posted on 08/11/2011 7:46:27 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Clintonfatigued
Cal. Is the largest dairy producer in the US now. I guess they dont want “illeagle farmers” ruining their mega farm production.
19 posted on 08/11/2011 7:50:25 PM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: reformedliberal

Yep. Truthfully I couldn’t care less now if the “system” collapses. I’m fairly self sufficient, live in a ‘rural’ town; lots of cattle, homegrown foods etc.

Really, all I keep thinking is ‘bring it on’.

There is a family right here in Missouri that were ‘raising’ rabbits; they took great care in their stock but the feds stepped in a couple of months ago and slammed them with fines for operating a breeding operation, not having the appropriate licenses etc etc. They are now almost bankrupt from the attorney fees they are having to pay; not to mention the huge fine that has been levied against them. Our stellar senator, Blunt (R), has basically indicated that the USDA knows best. So these folks are now out of business with their lives nearly ruined and it’s not over yet.

It’s all about “control”.


20 posted on 08/11/2011 7:56:35 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Anyone who hears that rabbit story and their blood doesn’t boil that is NOT an American. Throwing off this oppression should be the centerpiece of the GOP campaign.


21 posted on 08/11/2011 8:12:32 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Pollster1
"...the feds may inconceivably have taken an unexpected step in a surprising direction - exceeding their authority. Who would have guessed that the humble and civil Obama Regime would have overstepped their bounds..."

They were local, which is typical--not feds.


22 posted on 08/11/2011 8:26:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a noisy avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: nickcarraway

This has never made sense to me. I thought the Libs loved organic.


24 posted on 08/11/2011 8:54:54 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nickcarraway

Isn’t breast milk served unpasteurized to INFANTS?

Why aren’t the SWAT teams protecting these innocent children!


25 posted on 08/11/2011 9:29:40 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: nickcarraway
But this week, the police cleared the shelves of Rawesome, an establishment in Venice Beach, loading $70,000 of raw, organic produce and dairy products on the back of a flatbed truck

But if they're cleared, they'll bring it all back, right?

/s...

26 posted on 08/11/2011 9:46:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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I care nothing for this raw movement, but raiding these clubs/markets with guns drawn is just rediculous. When will the camels back break?


27 posted on 08/11/2011 10:02:54 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz
According to Justice Scalia, the feds may legitimately do this:

...the authority to enact laws necessary and proper for the regulation of interstate commerce is not limited to laws governing intrastate activities that substantially affect interstate commerce. Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce.

J. Scalia, Gonzales v Raich

______________________________________

Justice Thomas says that's bunk:

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything, and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

J. Thomas, Gonzales v Raich

28 posted on 08/11/2011 10:33:02 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; heartwood; calcowgirl

No license, so this is probably them being upset they didn’t get their license fee and their bribes.

All about the Benjamins.


29 posted on 08/11/2011 10:59:53 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Because it’s the illegal aliens who sell food to health food stores,.Trust me you don’t see many people selling goat’s milk here in the LA area.


30 posted on 08/12/2011 4:52:44 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Pollster1

Feds? The article seems to involve California police and California law


31 posted on 08/12/2011 5:10:50 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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