Skip to comments.Some Things to Know about Governor Perry (Vanity)
Posted on 08/13/2011 5:10:13 AM PDT by BobL
Given all of the excitement for Governor Perry, I jotted down a few things last night. While people who oppose me will call them "taking points" they are no different than what his supporters use to defend him (which is what they have to do most of the time), and so it is fair game to bring up these topics. I'll be busy most of this weekend, but will try to respond when I get some free time. As you'll see, I have links for most of what I say. A few items are obvious, are conjecture, or are logical extensions, but not many. So here it goes:
Much as Mike Huckabee initially got lots of support when he threw his hat in, in 2008, Rick Perry is also getting lots of support now. Both candidates were considered successful governors of very conservative states and thus assumed to be trustworthy conservatives. However, as with Bush-43, both candidates have some serious baggage.
Huckabee, for example, was letting felons loose by the hundreds, one of which killed a bunch of cops minding their own business in a diner in Washington State (that alone may have sunk him this year, we'll never know). It was a horrible policy, with police chiefs, prosecutors, and others begging him to keep these guys locked up. But Huckabee figured he knew more than those people, so if he heard the right words from the criminal, all was forgiven. Huckabee also bought into the Global Warming charade, specifically buying into the liberal-religious view that God requires us to take care of the planet, so we have to do everything the liberals want, without question, and without requiring justification. Thankfully, Huckabee realized the jig was up for him in 2012 and he chose to sit it out.
Governor Rick Perry, on the other hand, as far as I can tell, does not carry the same baggage on crime or the environment. On both of those issues he has performed well here in Texas (meaning he's not soft on crime, and he's not an environmental nutcase). However, Governor Perry has a number of other issues that can legitimately lead one to question whether he's the best candidate. I shall list some of them here:
While Governor Perry has done a good job bringing up the problem of illegal immigration, and complaining that the federal government is not doing enough, he has done hardly anything at the state level, other than the mostly-symbolic deployment of the Texas Rangers to the border (it's symbolic because there are very few Rangers to begin with, so he could only deploy about 150 of them, total). He did sign a voter ID bill, but when it's passed veto-proof and more than half of the Democrats also want it, it's not too tough a call.
But when you get to taking steps that could make Texas unfriendly to Illegal Immigrants, that's where Governor Perry is quite similar to Bush-43. He seems to take the Catholic view that illegal immigrants should be treated with dignity, rather than as criminals, and while that view might be fine in an ideal world, Texas, with the rest of the country not far behind, is in danger of being demographically overwhelmed by minorities, and, just from a strategic Republican viewpoint, illegal immigration must be stopped. So there are a number of things that he has done and not done on the issue, all of which point to a governor that would just as well not get his hands dirty in what would be a nasty fight. That is his right, but do we want that as president? Here is a partial list.
a) Texas Dream Act. One of the first things he did in office was allow in-state Tuition for illegal residents - in fact, first in the country, I believe. As noted above, that acts a magnet for illegals trying to decide where to live. He has not done a thing to try to end it.
b) E-Verify Requirement. Not even a word in our vocabulary here. E-Verify threatens employers with penalties if they hire illegals. For example, in Arizona businesses are responsible for making sure their workers are legal through this system (or it may only apply to new workers there, not sure). This part of their immigration law was upheld by the Circuit Court. E-Verify is very simple to use, but a lot of big businesses (understandably) love illegals, and apparently they have the governor's ear more than the base. As big businesses proved in California, the long-term health of the state is simply not a matter of concern to them, only making money today (sorry, but that is just a fact, it doesn't mean I'm a left-winger...big business had deals with Nazi Germany in the 1940s...they are simply a-moral). The inability of California to get rid of its illegal problem has now wrecked the state, and they are rapidly descending into Third World status. Texas is next, probably within a decade, as the white voting percentage continues to get diminished. The rest of the country is 2 or 3 decades behind, but going the same way.
c) Sanctuary City Legislation. Governor Perry has been very slick on this one. He clearly does not want a bill hitting his desk...for then he has to take a stand on it. On the other hand, he knows how mad people are about the issue, as cops are being killed by illegals in Houston and Dallas who would have been deported long ago, had this law been passed. It's very simple for the police were allowed to challenge their legality - if they don't speak English, make them show papers, if they don't show papers, hand them to INS. So, twice in row this year, the governor has managed to keep this legislation bottled up in the state legislature...and has been able to blame those big, bad, Republicans that control 2/3s of the legislature* (more on this just below). The second go-around was amazing to watch, as it was a special session only requiring a simple majority to pass (Note, our legislature only meets from Jan to May in odd-numbered years; all other meetings are special sessions that have to be called by the governor, and he can call as many as he wishes. Also, all of the legislators have day jobs, as they get paid like crap when their in session, so they don't like special sessions and will eventually pass what the governor want - you'll see why I bring this up in a minute.). Basically, the legislature, during the special session, kept the Sanctuary City bill on the back burner until almost the very end. Then, when they did bring it up, they very conveniently needed a supermajority to get a vote on it (because it was so late)...and lo and behold...they couldn't find enough people. So rather than call a second special session, and maybe one after that (which would not be a first, as he called three special sessions to get his new business tax passed), Governor Perry said he was disappointed and that was it for Sanctuary City legislation this session. Well we were disappointed too...and not all that sure exactly how disappointed the governor was really was. The issue is off the table, and Illegals can still do their stuff without looking over their shoulders - just where we started this year.
*The question of just what could Governor Perry do, if the legislature will not pass the bill, often comes up. To me, it shows one of two things: Either he never had his heart in it (which is what I have to believe, given the lack of additional special sessions), or he is simply unable to get a legislature that is two-thirds Republican to pass a bill that the Republican base is dying for...meaning he is totally ineffective. You take your choice, but either way, I don't like it.
d) Border Fence. He basically doesn't like the idea, as it sends a bad message. I'll let the reader decide if they agree with that take.
So illegal immigration is probably his weakest point. But he does have others.
This was a new vaccine that had just gotten past its trials and was being pushed very hard by Merck. The intent of the drug is to prevent girls and women from contracting cervical cancer when they had sex. Governor Perry mandated this vaccine on pre-teen girls almost immediately after it hit the market. There is a lot of emotional debate on this, so I'll list off some arguments on this.
a) People could opt-out. Technically true, as anyone can opt out of the vaccine requirements. In raising my kid, of course, we were never told that and I doubt most people knew they could opt-out (and, in the vast majority of cases, they shouldn't opt out, or the vaccine would not be effective). In Texas, roughly 1,000 kids per year opt out of vaccinations. In order to opt out, one must swear that their religion prohibits vaccinations. Since most people don't want to commit felonies, most don't opt out. In the case of Gardasil, opting out may have become somewhat easier (not sure), but the vast majority of parents would probably not even have known their daughters were being given it, or at least what it was for. This leads to my next point...
b) In cities, where condoms have been handed out, girls often find themselves being pressured to have sex, since sex is now 'safe' and the schools have given it their implicit blessing. In the case of Gardasil, while the parents may have been oblivious to their daughters being inoculated, the boys at the middle and high schools certainly would not have been, and thus they would have even more ammo to pressure the girls. Like it or not, that's how things work in the real world for girls with their boyfriends...it's bad enough, already, for the ones that want to abstain, now they have society telling them, in effect, sex is fine, go have fun.
c) The effectiveness of the drug is very questionable, as it only prevents some forms of cervical cancer. Additionally, as was discovered elsewhere, the side effects, including some deaths from this drug, were very real.
d) The intent of inoculations is to prevent otherwise innocent people from contracting communicable diseases, where they have no control over their risk (like Measles). The only way to put Gardacil into this category is to say that it will help prevent cervical cancer in the case of forcible rape. Fortunately (unlike Scandinavia) forcible rape is very rare in this country, and no one has put forward this argument in support of Gardacil.
e) The idea that parents should be in charge of deciding whether their kids should be inoculated in this way, rather than the state, is a no brainer for conservatives, which makes the governor's push for it so difficult to explain away.
f) I've put forth the analogy that anyone who supports Gardasil being given to young girls should also support mandatory birth-control implants for these same girls. In both cases the idea is to lessen the risks involved in having underage sex and pregnancy is certainly a risk, and probably a much larger risk. Obviously this argument doesn't sit well with Perry supporters, but they have simply no retort to it.
The bottom-line is that issue cannot be explained away and it is already creating havoc between Perry and the conservative base, at least based on what I read on this site.
3) Trans-Texas Corridor
The Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC) was a grandiose plan for the state to build a huge network (many thousands of miles long) of car toll roads, truck toll roads, gas pipelines, power lines, train tracks, and who knows what else. The right of way required for this plan was on the order of 800 to 1000 feet. At this width, the crossings would be, at best 20 miles apart, along with the exits - meaning that communication between the sides of these corridors would be next to impossible. The plan, along with the necessary Constitutional Amendments was passed with almost no opposition, although that was likely because very few people knew about it - and it was a Republican governor proposing it to a Republican legislature, which is very dangerous for bad ideas (more on that later). Once passed opposition remained very scattered, as most people figured the plan was like a new NASA rocket, lots of studies and presentations, but never any hardware cut. Well that wasn't the case here and then the objections started pouring in.
a) First, the original plan never had public hearings. Hearings were called later, in order to determine the best alignment for the already-determined routes, but, like Gardasil, no hearings, or public input, was ever solicited for the original plan - it just appeared one day as a pronouncement from the governor. So it doesn't take much to figure out that once the public caught wind all hell was going to break loose. Specifically, the biggest opposition had to do with the fact that huge amounts of land was being taken away from its private owners and essentially handed to other private owners (i.e., the ones well-connected with the governor). Now technically, the land remained property of the state, but the right-of-ways were to be leased out to private companies to build and operate the toll roads (which were the first stages of this massive project). But the leases are on the order of 75 years, which, means that not only me, but my children, and even my future grandchildren would probably be outlived by these leases. So it certainly seems to people like myself that he was handing over this property to private enterprises. Which brings up the next point...
b) The private companies involved (really just one that keeps popping up, Cintra, a Spanish firm) are not idiots and are not going to invest billions on highways unless they can be certain of a captive audience. In other words, they don't want to build an East-West highway through Texas just to see a major upgrade on Interstate 10 (or Interstate 20), where people can still travel for free (at least for the time being). So, in order to assure their return on investment, they demand monopoly-type protections from the government, which were structured so that any time the government does anything to a parallel right of way that affects their traffic (such as expanding a parallel highway, building a new highway, or, arguably, even repaving an existing highway), the state has to pay the private company for the lost revenue. Now these private highways are very, very, expensive, on the order of 30 cents per mile to drive on (in Canada), so in many cases the state might decide to simply scuttle public highways, rather than try to maintain them (and have to pay the huge windfalls to Cintra)...thereby forcing people on to the toll road. Which then brings up the entire concept of regulation...discussed next.
(lots more, for those interested)
c) Conservatives like both deregulation and private enterprise, so what is there not to like about unregulated private highways? The answer is that for private enterprise to be in the public interest there must be competition - such as there was in airline deregulation. In many cases that is not practical, so you have monopolies, but they are always regulated (such as water, power, gas, etc.). For example, the power company could triple their prices tomorrow for electricity (if they were an unregulated monopoly) and there is virtually nothing you could do about it, except try to live without power. Yes, eventually, solar or wind might start to make sense, but needless to say, the power company would price just below that - and take in huge windfalls from their cheap fossil fuel and nuke plants. The bottom line, a few very rich power company owners, and millions of customers having to live in the stone age, without air conditioning and without Chevy Volts (LOL). Likewise on the highways. While not a total monopoly because people could always drive on side streets, allowing monopoly pricing will increase the cost of limited access roads (i.e., what were freeways) a huge amount. This happened in Canada, where Cintra bought an existing highway and now people find that driving is very, very, expensive when prices are pushed up to monopoly levels (roughly 30 cents per mile, which would be like paying an extra $7.50 per gallon for gas). Why? Because highways are generally very cheap, relatively speaking. The gas tax is roughly 2 or 3 cents per mile (both federal and state combined) and still covers all maintenance needed by all state and federal highways, and even has a bit of room left for expansion, paying the deficit (thanks a bunch, Mr. Clinton), and paying for public transportation, carpool lanes, and bike lanes. The highways that were going to be built in this TTC bypassed all of the cities, so land was very, very, cheap (especially with eminent domain helping out). Building highways, again, is very cheap, so there can be tons of money to be made here (same reason for such high gas prices in Europe...people will pay through the teeth to drive). The question became whether Cintra should pocket that money, or should the drivers pocket the money by not having to pay that price to drive. Governor Perry has taken Cintra's side and continues to cut these types of deals.
http://dcnonl.com/nw/23663/tt (note, the rates are in cents per kilometer; multiply by 1.6 to get cents per mile you can see Cintra means business when it comes to tolling)
d) The bottom line is that getting around Texas would have been crippled by these deals, in particular the non-compete clauses. Once the people figured this all out they revolted en-masse and the governor knew that his 2010 re-election was out of the question if he kept pushing forward with the TTC. So he officially put a spike through it, but unofficially kept working with the legislature to allow certain exceptions...some very big, that will still hurt us big-time. And yes, the legislature has given him these exceptions, in exchange for being able to say that they 'officially' killed it. And that leads to my next point about having a damaged governor (or president).
e) As Republicans (and Democrats, for that matter) have shown over the years, it is much easier to oppose something dumb when the person doing it is from the other party. I'm not sure why, but I suspect the fear of retribution is much lower. So we had to endure the TTC concept for the better part of a decade, and we still cannot completely get rid of it. We saw something similar at the federal level with Bush-43 on Amnesty - it nearly passed, twice. We were very lucky to stop it and it cost us control of Congress and a lot of bad blood with Hispanics. But once the Dems got power, Amnesty was not even attempted (except for the Dream Act) - even though they had enough votes to get it through on a party-line vote - it wound up that we were safer from Amnesty with a Democrat as president, than a Republican. During Bush-41's run, the same thing happened with environmental legislation...horrible legislation passed. Bush-41 called it "trophy legislation", probably figuring that the country would be on their knees in praise of him by 1992...and we know how that all turned out. The legislation was written by a hugely Democrat Congress that simply wanted to destroy his chance for re-election and he went along and signed it. In fact, Dan Quayle spent much of 1991 and most of 1992 trying to figure out how to get around the same legislation that his boss had just signed...as they knew the country's economy, which was getting decimated as businesses tried to adjust to all of the new rules (including 'civil rights' laws, and wheelchair laws), would take him down in 1992, if nothing was done. In the end, of course, not enough was done and Clinton handed him his head. And the Sierra Club and other organizations that worked with Bush were nowhere to be found by November of 1992. In fact, by then, Bush-41 was considered a right-wing extremist by much of the country. That is why it's critical to elect people who can be trusted on critical issues, rather than electing someone deemed "electable"...which leads to the next topic.
4) The Texas Economic Miracle
Here in Texas, we have created jobs faster than the rest of the country combined, and yes, Governor Perry has been at the helm. Does he deserve credit and what specifically has he done? In fact, the main reason that he's on everyone's A-list for governor is because of the condition of the state, but when you ask people what he's specifically done, you usually get blank stares. So I'll help a bit here, starting with what his biggest accomplishment is.
a) Doing Very Little. While this sounds rather cynical, doing nothing is almost always better than trying to use government to solve problems. For example, Bush-43 tried to use the federal government to 'solve' the education crisis...that was a joke. He also kept talking about the 'ownership society' in regards to home ownership. And he did improve things somewhat, from something like a 65% ownership rate to a 69% ownership rate...but that was done by giving loans to deadbeats. And we all know how that ended...and we are back down to 65%, at most. Other governors, particularly in California and the Northeast, try to solve the world's problems by things like draconian emissions controls. But Governor Perry has done very little to damage Texas, at least for the time that he's governor. The time bombs being planted by the remnants of the TTC will, of course, damage us big-time, but Perry will be long out of office by then (and possibly on the board of Cintra, given some of his administration's very questionable revolving door policies). So, yes, the governor has done great in not doing anything and again, that is very often a big accomplishment when you get to that level of power.
b) Illegals. Relating to not doing anything is keeping Texas a friendly place for Illegal Aliens. As anyone who hires people to cut their lawn, or work on a house knows, Illegals are cheap and usually do very good work. Economically, these people are absolutely critical to Texas, and by being sure that they stay welcomed here, our economy does just fine.
c) Our State Constitution. One provision in our constitution pretty-much single-handedly kept us out of the housing bubble. That provision prohibited home equity "extractions" beyond 80% of its value, which meant that if you wanted to refinance, you were not going to cash-out on it as you can in most other states. This greatly limited the debt levels that people carried, and thus some of the insane parts of the housing bubble, like Option ARM loans (where you pay so little, initially, that the principal actually increases) never made it here big-time. Lots of luck here for Texans, and thankfully people long ago understood the damage that debt could do.
d) The Oil Economy. Unlike other sectors of the economy, oil has done great while the governor has been in power. This has encouraged lots of drilling and much of that work is Texas-based - again Perry has done nothing to discourage that work, so he does deserve praise for that.
e) Legal. A legal system that makes frivolous lawsuits rare. One of the few things that Bush-43 did right in his political career was fixing our tort system.
There are probably more (like having an excellent infrastructure, at least when he came into power), but I cannot think of much.
Well Perry can be elected, while others running cannot be as they are damaged goods due to the media - or so goes the conventional wisdom. The first way to deal with this is to look at Sarah Plain in 2008 (and no, I'm not shilling for her...but her example is a good one). Prior to being selected for VP, no one knew anything about her, and no one cared. Just after being selected the conservatives were ecstatic, and McCain even pulled into a slight lead. Then the media got to work and she was damaged (like it or not). In other words the media will tear apart any Republican who runs. The fact that they haven's yet gone after Perry does not assure us of anything, and Perry has a lot more for the media to work with than Plain ever did. A second example is President Reagan. In 1980, which I remember like yesterday, people, including Conservatives were scared to death of Reagan, not because he was a nutcase or dangerous (as in World War 3) but because Reagan would be portrayed that way...and he certainly was. But two other things happened. First, you had a failed Democrat presidency, and second he brought out the base, without hesitation. That is something that Governor Perry cannot do...there are a lot of doubts about him with the base and they show up every day on this site, and they're mostly not from me. So who's more electable, Perry, or a conservative that doesn't have these quirks - and no, the media cannot stop a conservative from being elected. You decide.
So, overall, as you can tell, I'm not yet in the Perry camp. I've purposely stayed (mostly) away from the corruption-end, but there is some very nasty stuff out there, and I can promise you that the Democrats have it, and will use it (and it cannot be retorted). I've lived here for 20 years, and the stuff that he's done that gives conservatives double-takes, along with the stuff he hasn't done (mainly immigration), convinces me that he would be a lot of trouble to deal with as president...quite similar to Bush-43 in that regard.
You should also know:
Theres one man with a record good enough and who is TOUGH enough to throw the usurpers a$$ out of our White House.
That man is Rick Perry.
We need somebody who can WIN this thing. That means somebody with cross-over appeal, which our Palin, Bachmann and Cain (no matter how much we love them) simply do not have.
Until 1989, Rick Perry was a conservative Democrat. He switched parties as, like many Democrats including Ronald Reagan and Phil Gramm, he saw that party moving farther and farther to the left. Under Perrys decade as governor, hundreds of Texas Democrats have followed his lead and become Republicans. As a former Democrat, Perry can speak to that swath of his former party that has become disenchanted with their party as President Obama has taken it even farther to the left, in a way that few Republicans can. He can also speak well and credibly to all wings of the national GOP, from the fiscal cons to the social cons to the libertarian set.
He would appeal to all segments of the Republican electorate and would come armed with a record of economic success and a commitment to liberty that no other contender can match.
Texas has been voted #1 business climate for the last seven years.
Texas has been getting all of Californias jobs.
Perry must be doing something right.
We need a good business guy right now.
Perry has proved it.
CONSERVATIVE ICONS SUPPORT PERRY:
>Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor.
Recently restated that she likes Perry
He walks the walk of a true conservative And he sticks by his guns and you know how I feel about guns.
>Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate.
>Michael Reagan praises Perry:
If you dont believe Reaganomics can still work in this day and age, for whatever reason, I say you should look no further than the state of Texas.
Under the leadership of Gov. Rick Perry, Texas has championed and built upon the concepts my father used to rebuild America in the 1980s..
In short, Reagan Revolution is alive and well - deep in the heart of Texas.
>Ted nugent is a close friend and supporter.
> Gov. Perry, who has championed Israel and called for a muscular foreign policy, has the ability to appeal to all five elements of the party fiscal, social and national security conservatives plus the Tea Party and the Establishment without alienating any.
>Since Perry has been Governor of Texas, Texas has added more than 850,000 jobs, more than all other states combined. Texas has added over 180,000 jobs since August of 2009.
>According to this web site Texas is #1 this year and last year for business friendly.
Obama would not want not run against a governor that has the BEST business climate in the U.S. when everything else is in a depression.
>He refused to raise taxes when Texas faced a record $10 billion budget shortfall in 2003. Instead, he was the first Texas governor since World War II to sign a budget that lowered state spending (and has now done it twice). As governor, Perry has used his line item veto to cut over $3 billion in proposed spending.
>For seven years running, CEOs polled by Chief Executive magazine have rated Texas first in business development and job growth. Texas boasts 58 Fortune 500 companies more than any other state.
>As Americas No. 1 exporting state, Texas shipped $206.6 billion in goods abroad last year, composing 16 percent of Americas $1.28 trillion in exports. Californias $14.4 billion in exports ranked it second, with 11.2 percent of U.S. outflow.
>Texas achievements so stunned Gavin Newsom, Californias Democratic lieutenant governor, that he flew a delegation to Austin last May to ask Perry how he lures defectors from the Golden State.
>Of the 70 companies that fled California in 2011, the Wall Street Journals John Fund reported last April, 14 relocated to Texas these exiles primary destination.
>In 2005, Perry signed a historic $15.7 billion property tax cut for homeowners and businesses that also included new taxpayer protections against appraisal increases. In 2009, Gov. Perry secured a tax cut for approximately 40,000 small businesses in Texas and protected the Rainy Day Fund for future challenges.
>He led the battle to pass the countrys most sweeping lawsuit reforms, closing the door on junk lawsuits that had been making trial lawyers rich while driving countless doctors either out of the state or the profession all together. Since Texas voters approved these reforms, malpractice claims and premiums have fallen and access to healthcare is increasing across the state as doctors have applied in droves to practice in Texas.
>Perry is also known for his socially conservative views on homosexuality, and he opposes same sex marriage. He condemned the United States Supreme Court decision in Lawrence vs. Texas, which struck down a Texas sodomy law. He called the law appropriate
>Perry is pro-life and opposes government funding for elective abortions. In 2005, Perry, a social conservative, signed a bill that limited late-term abortions and required girls under the age of 18 who procure abortions to notify their parents. Perry signed the bill in the gymnasium of Calvary Christian Academy in Fort Worth, an evangelical Christian school.
>Perry signed into law a bill requiring a sonogram and doctors explanation before granting an abortion
>In 2005, Perry signed a new law that requires minor girls to receive parental consent before getting an abortion. This law strengthens a parental notification law Perry supported as Lt. Gov. in 1999, which
helped reduce teen abortions by 26 percent.
Perry has also signed a ban on third trimester abortions, a ban on tax dollars being used to support abortion facilities, a prenatal protection act that protects
unborn children from assault, and an informed consent law that helps expectant mothers better understand the risks and consequences of abortion. Perry supports a ban on human cloning and will veto any
legislation that provides state dollars for embryonic stem cell research, a process that ends a human life.
Perry urges to keep up pressure to roll back the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion until Roe v. Wade is nothing but a shameful footnote in our nations history books.
>Perry, a frequent critic of the federal government, also bashed President Barack Obama for his administrations policy allowing federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, saying he was deeply disturbed by studies that turn the remains of unborn children into nothing more than raw material.
>Perry has faulted Obama for reversing the so-called Mexico City policy that banned giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide information about abortions. Obama struck down the policy during his first week in office, saying it was too broad and undermined family planning in developing countries.
Under Obama our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export, Perry said.
>Perry adds immigration issues to lawmaker session
Perry wants passage of a measure requiring every person arrested to be run through the federal immigration databases as part of the Secure Communities program. He also wants to provide the state Department of Public Safety with the authority to make sure someone is in the U.S. legally before issuing a drivers license.
>These measures, along with a ban on sanctuary cities, would provide a clear message that Texas will not turn a blind eye to those breaking our laws, Perry said in a statement.
Texas owes it to the brave law enforcement officials, who put their lives on the line every day to protect our families and communities, to give them the discretion they need to adequately do their jobs, Perry said.
>Gov. Perry has made numerous requests of the federal govt. to enforce the border in Texas including handing President Obama a letter in person when he landed in Dallas last year.
(Obama insulted governor Perry when he turned away and Perry had to hand the letter on the illegals issue to presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett. Obama declined to personally accept it.)
>Gov. Perry refuses to meet/greet Obama in May 2011 at El Paso during his Texas tour.
Perry later declared, If he wanted to meet, I was in Austin.
>Perry signed into law photo ID required before voting.
WHAT have other states done?? (with the exception of AZ Ok and Ga)
What have other candidates stated that they would do?
What has Sarah stated she would do?
What is Backmanns plan?
What did Reagan do?
President Ronald Reagan was the first president in history to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. On November 6, 1986, he signed into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, [PUB L 99-603]. In so doing, he set a precedent whereby the United States would not seek to deport illegal aliens, but to reward their lawbreaking by granting them full citizenship.
NEWSFLASH! None of them are going to do much.
We have to take the best of the lot.
CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS:
In what was described as a God and country sermon at the Cornerstone church in San Antonio, attended by Perry and other mostly Republican candidates, the Rev. John Hagee stated, If you live your life and dont confess your sins to God Almighty through the authority of Christ and His blood, Im going to say this very plainly, youre going straight to hell with a nonstop ticket.
Perry was asked if he agreed with those comments and said, It is my faith, and Im a believer of that. Perry went on to say that there was nothing in the sermon that he took exception with.
Humorist and entertainer Kinky Friedman, the Jewish independent candidate for governor in the 2006 election, said, He doesnt think very differently from the Taliban, does he? Carole Keeton Strayhorn disagreed with Perrys comments, and Democrat Chris Bell said that one who is in public office should respect people of all faiths and denominations.
Conservatives then responded, arguing that Perry had a right to his religious beliefs, and that he was not disrespecting Americans of other religious convictions. While visiting Israel in August 2009, Perry gave an interview to the Jerusalem Post in which he affirmed his support for Israel from his religious background, Im a big believer that this country was given to the people of Israel a long time ago, by God, and thats ordained.
>Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue. In a September 7, 2007, speech to California Republicans, Perry said, Virtually every day another scientist leaves the global warming bandwagon. ... But you wont read about that in the press because they have already invested in one side of the story.
>Pro-life, Pro-guns, pro-spending cuts, pro-business
>Hes an outside-the-Beltway candidate
>He is not a Ivy League grad
>He was an Air Force captain who flew a C-130
(Odumbo says everybody should speak a foreign language, but he CANT)
>Fighting with Obama on many fronts
Google Perry/Obama and you will see hes been fighting him and his government for the past two years.
>PERRY ISSUES OBAMA A COUPLE OF BIG FUBOs:
1. Texas to Allow Regular Incandescent Bulbs
Reports are the governor will sign Bill HB2510 by June 19th.
Bill HB2510 allows for the manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs otherwise banned in federal legislation of 2007, applicable from 1 January 2012 onwards.
The legality, at least in the way the proposed law is framed, has apparently been cleared with the US Attorney Generals office.
The Bill has already passed in both House and Senate with overwhelming support.
While Texas has no current manufacture, relevant parties are being invited to restart it.
Texas has been a leading US state in providing new local jobs, and this is seen as a further contributive measure.
2.Perry Adds TSA Anti-Groping Bill to Call
Gov. Rick Perry this evening announced the addition of TSA anti-groping legislation to the agenda for the special legislative session. In a statement, he said lawmakers could consider legislation relating to the prosecution and punishment for the offense of official oppression on those seeking access to public buildings and transportation.
>There is no such thing as Perrycare
>Signed into law sonogram and explanation by physician before abortion
>Signed into law, photo ID ident to vote
>Perry did not apply for federal Race to the Top education funds because he said it would force national standards upon Texas.
>He has vetoed a record 248 bills, including dozens after the 2001 session, angering many lawmakers.
>He said last year that President Barack Obama was hell-bent on turning America into a socialist country.
>Won governorship of state with lots of latinos
>He used to be a Democrat. So? So did Reagan.
>The Bushs dont like him
>He has NEVER lost an election, including an elementary school contest for king of the Paint Creek School Carnival. He secured that win by handing out pennies for votes.
>Perry has degree in animal science from Texas A&M University
>He is an Eagle Scout and wrote a book about the Boy Scouts, On My Honor.
Rick Perry uses the Boy Scouts to draw a battle line in what he considers a culture war, defending them against the American Civil Liberties Union and what he sees as a moral struggle for the countrys future.
The book also traces a 30-year history of litigation involving the Scouts most of which they won which Perry considers an attack on traditional values and faith in God.
Perry targets the ACLU as the primary force behind a leftist push to accept homosexuality and challenge Scoutings duty to God.
>Perry has a reputation for not sweating
>He played quarterback on the six-man football team for the Paint Creek Pirates. He also played basketball and ran track.
>Hes a runner and triathlete.
>He is an outdoorsman who enjoys hunting and fishing.
>He plays the drums. At a January 2005 inaugural party in Washington, he played with ZZ Top in front of 2,000 people
>Perry has Romneys looks without the other baggage.
Raised on a ranch.
6 tall- presidential (especially after Obama)
Anytime governor Rick Perry is mentioned, Free Repubic seems to turn into something resembling Democratic Underground.
Posts regarding Perry are peppered with profanity, vulgarity and downright fabrications- the likes of which is seldom seen on Free Republic.
This is hardly in the best interests of our Conservative agenda. The Loony Left does not need any help from us in the character assassination of our Conservatives.
This Perry trashing comes from the Ron truther Paul nuts, Debra Medina sour grapers, lurking Libs- and I suspect, over zealous Sarah Palin supporters and a few Bachmann supporters.
(I love Sarah and Michelle Bachmann as much as anyone else, but we MUST face reality when it comes to our beautiful Conservative ladies chances of winning this thing!)
Dont you think it more sensible to trust what the Conservative icons have to say about Perry?
>Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor-. She recently restated that she likes Perry.
>Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate. http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh-on-the-record-3/
>Michael Reagan praises Perry:
If you dont believe Reaganomics can still work in this day and age, for whatever reason, I say you should look no further than the state of Texas.
Under the leadership of Gov. Rick Perry, Texas has championed and built upon the concepts my father used to rebuild America in the 1980s..
In short, Reagan Revolution is alive and well - deep in the heart of Texas.
>Ted Nugent is a close friend and supporter.
Dont you think it more sensible to trust what numerous politicians and scholars have said about Rick Perry than various haters?
VISIT THIS SITE
Read the official statements of dozens of Perrys fellow politicians and scholars (both Democrats and Republicans) have had to say about Rick Perry: http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/rick-perry-for-president-in-2012.html
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
Apparently they dont consider these things an issue. They DID mention Perry threatening to secede from the union as a strike against him.
What Perry actually said; You know, my hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention, Perry continued. Weve got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what may come out of that? So. But Texas is a very unique place and were a pretty independent lot to boot.
The Gadasil vaccine Perry tried to force on Texas girls?
He never tried to force it.
There was an opt out. It was up to parents to choose
Trans Texas Hiway?
If thats the worst hes done, I can live with it.
I just want someone who can kick the Marxist/Muslim usurpers sorry a$$ out of our White House!!
Governor Perry attended one meeting in 2007.
Many prominent Americans have attended these meeting.
That does NOT mean they are members or agree with their agenda- whatever that is.
Some who attended in the past: Ford, Eisenhower, Gates
Why NOT attend if invited? I would want to know what in the heck they are all about and what they are up to.
>Americans WILL get it:
>Rick Perry for President
Texans seem to LOVE him. And they know him more than anyone. Are you in Texas too?
Thanks for this.
I have Texan Chrisitan Bro and Sis who are supporting him.
I still feel more than wary about him in my spirit.
I think he’s a closet globalist of the typically very deceptive kind who shows their full colors after getting in National office.
Let us see if Rick can run with the big dogs.
Thanks for reposting it!
Bob, give it up! It’s obvious you are an Obama guy who is terrified of Perry. If you had a computer in 2008 and knew how to post on FR, please show us your research on BHO. OK?
Here’s the deal: if BHO is one option next November and the other is Forrest Gump, there will be a landslide for the guy who thinks life is like a box of chocolates. See, BHO is walking proof that “stupid is as stupid does”. Please don’t bother responding with irate claims about being a “staunch conservative” because it is BS.
Oh, come on now. You’re bringing up topics I didn’t even want to discuss, like the fact that Perry remained a DEMOCRAT right through the late 1980s, and then led Al Gore’s 1988 presidential campaign in Texas.
By 1988 those same national Democrats had nearly IMPEACHED REAGAN over Iran-Contra. I have yet to hear Perry explain why he STILL thought the Democrat Party was the home for a conservative (hint, both Phil Gramm and Reagan were LONG GONE from the Democrats by then).
If you demand perfection you will get Obama. Sarah’s got faults. Perry’s got faults. I’ll forgive them all.
As far as I’m concerned any candidate that isn’t for complete and total border security and deporting ALL illegal aliens doesn’t get my vote. Period.
I will vote, but only for congress, the senate, etc, if a candidate for prez doesn’t meet my expectations vis a vis the border and immigration.
Are you a Ron Paul supporter?
“Texans seem to LOVE him. And they know him more than anyone. Are you in Texas too?”
Texan for 20 years...we don’t all love him here.
Perry leaves me with an uneasy feeling, as well. Just the process of his deciding whether to run or not got my attention. There were several hints that he was persuaded to do so. He gives the impression of someone without a deep set of convictions, or of being someone who is trying to conceal his true convictions.
“I think hes a closet globalist of the typically very deceptive kind who shows their full colors after getting in National office.”
Yea, if anything, he seems a lot like Bush-43, you do have much to worry about.
“Thanks for reposting it!”
I didn’t exactly repost this. I spent about 5 hours last night putting it together and re-reading it about 5 times. I even missed a number of juicy topics, like just how long it took Perry to figure out the Democrat Party wasn’t for him, or his distorted view of the 10th Amendment and gay marriage.
This Texan isn’t impressed by him. If you’re into big government, Perry is your man.
“If you had a computer in 2008 and knew how to post on FR, please show us your research on BHO. OK?”
I’ve got just under 10,000 posts on FreeRepublic. Other than a few attacking Romney, I challenge you to find any others (on a topic other than Perry) that goes against conservatismm, or conservatives, or Republicans (other than the usual stuff, like Bush-43 pushing Amnesty).
Have at it, please. My posting history speaks for itself.
“If you demand perfection you will get Obama. Sarahs got faults. Perrys got faults. Ill forgive them all.”
Same argument as 1980. I even voted for Bush-41 that year over Reagan in the Primary. Boy was I wrong.
Yes, I know that. I thought the second long post was reposted from the original above so we can click on the links instead of copying and pasting (that’s what I meant by repost) but I guess what you’re saying is that the second part is different. Anyways thanks for all the information.
Perry reminds me of Huckabee so far, and Huckabee stayed in long enough to net McCain as the Republican nominee, for whatever that’s worth now.
I doubt anyone would be able to get a full deportation through congress but there are a lot of methods to strongly encourage them to leave on their own.
There are at least 30 million illegals in America and that is enough to fully populate more than 50 congressional districts. That’s the population of Michigan Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. Anybody think we can afford to screw around with this issue for another decade?
“Are you a Ron Paul supporter?”
No, he’s a NUTCASE, and so is his kid (although not quite as much). My problem is that they think a balanced budget is more important than maintaining a national defense. Sorry, but defense first for me, always.
I’m a Michelle Bachmann nutcase. LOL
“Woo-Hoo! New record. You got spammed within 5 minutes of your posting! Never mind trying to read or link to your information. “
No kidding, his people must be watching the posts come in 24/7 and ready to pounce IMMEDIATELY.
I’ve got a life and, to be honest, would rather discuss issues besides this primary season. But, once again, Governor Perry pulls me in - so I’m here.
“Yes, I know that. I thought the second long post was reposted from the original above so we can click on the links instead of copying and pasting (thats what I meant by repost) but I guess what youre saying is that the second part is different. Anyways thanks for all the information.”
LOL, the pixels hadn’t even dried from my post before that one was up. All is forgiven.
“Perry reminds me of Huckabee so far, and Huckabee stayed in long enough to net McCain as the Republican nominee, for whatever thats worth now.”
Even at that Romney’s looking like real dork this year. Back in 2008, I voted for Romney. This year we have a LOT MORE to choose from and Romney is off in left-wing land, as far as I’m concerned.
That's true. We can only vote for the best we have. But the good news is, we can gain control and increase control of Congress to make it even closer to perfect.
Example, right now we have a President who would have loved to bring us Amnesty but those we worked so hard putting in Congress are helping that not become reality. He'd also love to raise taxes big time, but those we have in Congress will not make it easy. Well, we need to make it even harder for him in 2012 (in case he wins again).
And if he loses, great! By winning more gains in Congress we helped make whatever imperfect candidate we put in the WH a little closer to perfect.
I LOVE America and I believe in our political sytem (when dems don't cheat).
“I doubt anyone would be able to get a full deportation through congress but there are a lot of methods to strongly encourage them to leave on their own.
There are at least 30 million illegals in America and that is enough to fully populate more than 50 congressional districts. Thats the population of Michigan Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. Anybody think we can afford to screw around with this issue for another decade?”
Agree. No real need to deport these people. If they can’t get jobs, can’t get medical, can’t get food stamps, can’t walk without looking over their shoulder for police...they’ll get the message, and we won’t have to do a thing to push them.
...but not here in Texas. THEY ARE WELCOME IN TEXAS !!!
I won't vote for Perry for the following reasons...
Rick Perry was Al Gores Texas campaign manager
Rick Perry endorsed pro-abortion candidate Rudy Giuliani for president in 2007
Rick Perry is responsible for Texas version of the Dream Act
Rick Perry opposed the border fence
Rick Perry opposed SB 1070, Arizonas anti-illegal immigration law
Rick Perry opposed Obamas stimulus plan but took billions in stimulus money to balance the Texas budget
Rick Perry said he was ok with NYs gay marriage law
Rick Perry was hand-picked by Karl Rove and is an establishment Republican
Rick Perry is no conservative
Thanks very much for posting the same on your homepage. I’ll read and learn from there.
I would never vote for your pet open borders socialist.
“Thanks very much for posting the same on your homepage. Ill read and learn from there.
You’re welcome, I just up the Perry stuff last night, to make it easy to find. Next week, I’ll put some of the other topics that didn’t occur to me last night, but are being discussed (by accident in some cases) right now.
nice post - Perry is no conservative and is a crappy speaker- he will make more verbal mistakes than GWB.
“nice post - Perry is no conservative and is a crappy speaker- he will make more verbal mistakes than GWB.”
Thanks. In his 10 years as my governor, I’ve barely heard him speak...so I don’t know either way on that.
you forgot to mention that the budget of the state of TX doubled under Perry and that the “lawsuit” reform was a tweek of GWB work in the 1990s. Oh and you forgot to mention that he loves giving Tax Payer money to businesses - maybe that is why our budget doubled. Perry is no conservative- he is all RINO.
Yes...as a Texan, I realize Perry has his ‘faults’.
If he is our nominee, I will vote for him.
“There were several hints that he was persuaded to do so. He gives the impression of someone without a deep set of convictions, or of being someone who is trying to conceal his true convictions.”
Actually, I got the exact opposite impression. This is someone who DOESN’T want to be president, but who gradually realized that his country desperately needs him right now. This is EXACTLY the kind of candidate we need: a deeply principled man who reluctantly realizes that his country needs him.
Read up on the story of Cincinnatus, the general from the old Roman republic. That is the kind of leader that I think we desperately need right now.
Your statistics and opinions are not consistent at all, Bob. Here’s just a few problems:
The Governor added the voter ID bill as an “emergency measure,” meaning it skipped ahead of the rest of the bills, along with the Ultrasound bill. (Texas law prevents most votes for weeks, but emergency bills are fast tracked.)
If the veto-proof majority makes the signing of the voter ID meaningless, why even mention the “DREAM ACT” that passed with near-unanimous votes in 2001 and 2005? http://wingright.org/2011/08/08/why-i-support-the-texas-dream-act/
cbs is not a good site for medical information.
No deaths due to Gardasil, according to the CDC and FDA. The number of deaths in the group that has received the vaccine is lower than that expected for that age and none of the deaths have been connected to the vaccine other than by the fact that the girl received the vaccine at some time.
That's very important to me too. I was interested in hearing if Sarah Palin's stance would be to deport them all but I guess she's not running.
If she is, she's making a bad calculation waiting this long. She may be a maverick against the establishment and the media when it comes to doing what she wants and when she wants to do it and not caring about what they want but right now the American people are desperate for a leader to come out and run... the markets may actually react positively just knowing that a Sarah Palin or someone with real hope has just announced their candidacy.
And it's wonderful to be a maverick against the establishment and the media but it's another when you are against your own supporters and desperate Americans needing hope beyond ObamAA+.
I gave her until today. Waited for her since Obama won in 2008. But I need to look at someone who is running now. Not at just a possibility.
It's a shame. She has a wonderful message.
I think you’re both quite right.
The Marxist globalists are such successful artists at putting forward folks on all sides of the coin . . . as long as their big thumbs and jackboots are in control of said robots.
Serious baggage you say? That’s more like hoarding. Rick needs an intervention.
Yeah!!! Good to see your rebuttal.
“If he is our nominee, I will vote for him.”
Me too. Even after posting all of this, he certainly beats Hillary (or Obama, if he manages to hang on), or Trump or any other third party.
It’s not even a close call in November...the Dems have to be ousted. But the Primary season is the time to pick our best person (whomever that may be).
Rick Perry said he was FINE with homosexual marriage in NY.
I see Glenn Beck is still calling Michelle Bachmann his top pick.
I’m a Texan - no Ron Paul supporter - but a happy warrior for Regan when he ran for Gov of calif. I voted for GWB 4 times and NEVER for Perry - sit out rather than give him a vote...in TX. He is all RINO. One guy mentions he has never lost an election - that proves my basic point he is a politician not a convservative. He dodged debates because in his heart he does not know what is “right”. That is why he made “gaffs” about abortion and gay marriage two weeks ago.