Skip to comments.Bachman wins Iowa Straw Poll. Paul second. Pawlenty third. Romney fourth, er, seventh.
Posted on 08/13/2011 4:03:48 PM PDT by DRey
Bachman bests Paul. Pawlenty third. Romney fourth. Works for me!
What you are missing is a standard of international law that whether the government from which a citizen originates recognizes the idea of dual sovereignty. I actually agree with Cuba here in that a person who desires to become a naturalized American citizen must first renounce citizenship and allegiance to the land of their birth.
How can Bachmann support something that doesnt exist ? Bachmann stepped up to the plate. That's what REAL leaders do. Live with it.
WOW! With that top ten, it’s no wonder we have Obama in the White House. Let’s NOT do that again, shall we???!!!
” I think Perry showed ZERO class to announce when he did and draw attention away from this event.”
That’s music to my ears. Thank you for that post.
Congrats Michelle Bachmann. Hold your line. Stay the course.
Perry is a globalist,fueled by the GOP establishment. He can claim it was a “calling” all he wants, but until the GOP establishment committed him the money, he was a bench warmer... all the while you were one of a few in the trenches, holding your line, fighting the battle to save this nation from Obama, and his commie comrades.
Interesting. Delete Ron Paul and Thaddeus McCotter from this list (or have them swap places), and looks like Iowa Republicans ranked the candidates in the same order as my preferences. They have good taste, lol.
>> I biggest problem here is that Pawlenty came in third. I was hoping he would drop out... <<
I'd rather Romney, Gingrich, and Huntsman drop out, I don't want to imagine any scenario with them as the nominee. That's why I'm glad they ended up in the bottom rung. Newt's ego may keep him in the race regardless of how poorly he polls (ditto with Ron Paul, he will run in every primary regardless of what the results are)
I'm not keen on Pawlenty but I could stomach him as the nominee. He brings much of the same credentials that Perry has (acceptable conservative platform, nice guy, mediocre governor, wimp, etc.), but Perry comes across as having Romney-like fakeness, I'm getting a real "I'm conservative cuz it gets me votes in Texas!" feel from Perry, so Pawlenty at least seems to sincere about his conservative values. Guy needs a personality and a spine transplant though.
>> I am glad to see Santorum did as well as he did...Cain not too bad either. <<
I like Rick, but I think his political career is DOA and the media treats him as a joke, so its nice to see he got a respectable showing in this poll. Cain has greatly disappointed me since he entered in the race. I always thought he was the longest of long shots but probably the best conservative in the race. Now I see as better than a RINO (Romney) or phony "tea party" conservative (Perr), but nowhere near the ideal conservative.
>> Anyway, I am pleased that Bachman got a boost. I think Perry showed ZERO class to announce when he did and draw attention away from this event. Im already suspicious of him....his actions make me more so <<
Ditto. The more I learn about this guy, the less I trust him. He still barely makes my "acceptable" list, but only because the unacceptables are so bad. I really dread the thought if having Perry in the field to splinter the conservative vote more. RINOs should be overjoyed that Perry will be going after Bachmann, Pawlenty, and Santorum voters with a scripted "I'm such a tough pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, limited government, seal the borders man" song-and-dance. Alot of conservatives who don't know any better will buy his B.S. and waste time with the Perry distraction, and that will make it easier for RINOs to get in under the radar.
Well...she is still a witch with migraines where she speaks with Satan.
It would be a problem I hope we have to settle...those two at the top of the primary heap. Would make me very happy.
Neither have doe eyes though..drat
I’m happy and surprised....I was afraid it’d be goofball Paul or Clark Kent.
I could get more votes in my county for county legislator!
Hey, we’re just happy Romney looked weak.
looking at that waist...I had seen that pic from about 10 years ago before ...I had to see if she’s had kids
lol....you guys kill me
what is more important to me is that a social conservative came in first...which is rare there
not Romney or Pawlenty or that libertarian Paul
if Cain or Santorum won it would be just as nice in that regard
She looks very nice to be my age...(old)
Her and Palin are both hot...
But that has nothing to do with what we need either one to do...if Palin runs..
choosing between them is a problem I look forward to having
but their prettiness which is very nice admittedly doesn’t matter
either could look like a Macbeth’s caldron stirrer as long as they stood for the right thing
I’m saying all this despite thinking women do not make good leaders nearly as frequently as men
but I find these two exceptional
Bachmann is probably smarter and more reserved....more steel trap
Palin has more pizzazz and instinct...and that “it factor” that is just a talent you either have or don’t...Bro had it...Toon had it running out his ear...Magnus...obviously loaded with it
Which one is meaner may come into play..Perry is mean I hear...one thing about him I like...I suspect Palin is meaner than Bachmann...just a hunch
Should Palin enter....Perry has his work cut out for him...like herding cats arguing with women publicly...you can’t be seen as a bully...that will drive women voters away
but quite a few conservative women are not crazy about women pols either...I hear it all the time
this is shaping up to be...should Palin enter...a wing dinger which should fall into from acceptable to extremely acceptable to all of us here should Romney be pushed back more by what could be the top three
I am just happy to have a social righty making a good showing in polls consistently
I can’t recall this since Magnus
it’s always the Elite GOP bunch right outta the gate and so forth
BushI, Dole, Bush II-Queeg, BushII, and then Queeg’s day....none of those were thought of as social conservatives by FR standards
this is mo better
false...nice try though
I added up SVs numbers and they were missing 774, which would be most of Perry’s votes. Then I added up TFs numbers where they forgot to include “other write-ins.” When I added in the other write-ins, there were still several dozen votes unaccounted for???
lol..u go girl...I hear ya
Hey...you need to start ratcheting it up and bringing out your inner jerk...stop all these rational posts.....;)
The Iowa straw poll results demonstrate that Bachman has a core of committed followers who may become the basis for a strong showing in the caucuses. In addition, her victory helps to gain attention and credibility and spur fund-raising. The nomination process can be nerve wracking and fractious, but this year it will unite and energize the party.
Romney may yet become the GOP nominee. His money, lead in the polls, and national campaign experience make him a contender.
Candidates are not created equal. Behind closed doors, major donors and interest groups discuss the election in unsentimental terms of who has the best chance to win. Polling, fund raising, campaign organization, issues, and candidate quality are key factors.
they just take the fun out of it...I think...just my thought
that social conservatives would be happy one has been consistently winning polls in a primary race for GOP nod
i have not seen that in 27 years...
Palin running or not is not important with regard to the fact that an undisputed social conservative who has not backed down nor parsed anything controversial has been leading polls for weeks now
do youngsters here not realize this is far different than we usually get from GOP establishment?
if Palin enters...choosing tween her and Bachmann would be like choosing tween Eva Green or Mila Kunis for the weekend
or Tom Jefferson or James Madison for your classics tutor
in other words...a great problem to have
I have a big framed picture of Magnus in my living room....nice looking gent...SP or MB wouldn’t clash with the decor either :)
I have Churchill, Bedford Forrest and Son House
Magnus is a great choice though
One might question the predictive power of the Iowa Straw Poll.
Bachmann/Palin we need the two people in politics with the most cajones.
To: DRey; Outlaw Woman
“People actually have to pay $30 to cast a vote.”
Actually the candidates pay for a big majority of the tickets. They put on big feeds for the participants who have the tickets and even provide transport.
All these “straw polls” determine is which candidate has the better campaign organization in Iowa. They also provide a candidate some confidence that they should continue the run if they are in the top 3 or 4. This “straw poll” is part of the Iowa State Fair sideshow.
83 posted on Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:37:12 PM by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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This gives me a bit of additional faith. Ron Paul showed himself as the barking moonbat he really is when discussing Iran. Glad to see his cult was rejected.
I understand completely he’s a RINO. However I will vote for anyone over Obama. This nation will not survive four more years with him.
$30 fee for the opportunity to vote. Candidates pay for venue space, with size and prime location going to the highest bidder. Candidates pay transportation for out-of-town supporters and pay admission fees to sway the outcome.
The Ames (Iowa) Straw Poll is a reasonable indicator of early candidate campaign organizational strength and funding. It is not a good indicator of election outcome.
He didn’t participate in the Straw Poll. The others showed up, or had well funded write in campaigns like Perry did.
Thank you for that excellent explanation. Is it the same with other polls?
RuPaul has many great platforms, he is also a 911 truther. He has nothing to back it up. He blames America for a bunch of terrorist Muslims taking out the WTC.
But how did McCain do? I can’t find any information on his numbers? Am I logged in?
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Congrats to Bachmann and the Tea Party, must driving the libs crazy ...
Time to turn back to real Americanism and constitutionalism.
All you RINO supporters are truly disgusting in your support for the big government socialist elitist candidates. It is exactly your fault we are where we are today, supporting your false idols of American sellouts to one world government with your atheistic secularist roots.
You should go back to your public schools and insist your union thug atheistic secularist socialists actually teach you something TRUE about America and God. Good luck with that...
Please show me where she has raised lots of money? She only raise 2 million bucks on her last filing.
Palin is not running. Her job is simply to inspire people to actually get off their behinds and vote.
It’s a way for the state party to gauge the feelings of the voters. Nothing more. Voters have to pay to vote. So it adds $ to the party coffers as well. As for the candidates, it can be a way to gauge their acceptance, but with their egos it’s questionable the losers would heed the warning.
I dont like Romney at all but I will vote for him if my only other choice is Obama. I mean really 4 more years of Obama? Man....
With all due respect, it shows that while she is a strong contender, she also spent a TON of money to get the support at the straw poll...this is why this particular straw poll is bogus. Same with Paul...the each spent massive amounts of money for turnout...and they still couldn’t muster the votes of all of the tickets they handed out. If for example, they each purchased 6000 tickets and gave them out to people at the fair, yet only garnered 4000 plus votes, there were still 2000 tickets each outstanding...presumably, their votes went elsewhere. Now, for Cain and Santorum, who spent little on advertising and nothing on recruitment/busing people in, they did a GREAT job with far less support. This for me is a key indicator.
Paid political operatives? Dang! When do I get my check. I was there and voted, but never heard anything about getting paid for it. LOL!
Bachmann has always been known as a great fundraisr in her re elections as well as this Presidential bid.
Wow, I am reading your posts throughout this Bachmann thread and you are desperately trying to bash Bachmann to promote someone who is not even running.
The annual CPAC straw poll gets a fair amount of press coverage. It is also swayed by candidates paying for students (cheap tickets) to attend and sway the vote in their favor. Ron Paul and Mitt Romney have been doing this for several years.
Telephone surveys/polls may or may not be paid by special interest groups and/or candidates. The special interest slant can often be detected by the phrasing of questions and/or response choices. Known liberal pollsters can also skew results by heavily populating the sample with known liberal respondents.
As for Ron Paul, he blames the U.S. for September 11, 2001. That pretty well cancels anything else he has to say.