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US election 2012: Michele Bachmann snubs Rick Perry at Iowa Republican dinner
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | August 15, 2011 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 08/15/2011 8:09:31 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

US election 2012: Michele Bachmann snubs Rick Perry at Iowa Republican dinner

Michele Bachmann has angered some Republicans in Iowa by snubbing Governor Rick Perry of Texas, her new White House rival, at a party dinner, insisting on her own lighting and entering the hall "like she was Madonna".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Iowa; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bachmann; perry
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First, Bachmann rips Palin for not being a "serious" candidate. And now, Bachmann sits in a bus rather than being seen with Perry. Give me a break. She has no chance of getting the nomination.
1 posted on 08/15/2011 8:09:40 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

And I’m sure Perry was just devastated, too.


2 posted on 08/15/2011 8:12:46 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; LMAO; indylindy; Gilbo_3; ...

Beat up on Bachmann thread ping!

They hate the fact that she decided to be a candidate and is doing as well as she is.


3 posted on 08/15/2011 8:13:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Arec Barrwin
The media, manufacturing a controversy where there is none... ***yawn***
4 posted on 08/15/2011 8:14:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Arec Barrwin

Think I’ll go watch TMZ instead of clicking on the link. This minutiae is getting ridiculous.


5 posted on 08/15/2011 8:15:21 AM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I’m willing to consider the possibility that a few individuals within the media are drumming on prepared talking points. The key point being repeated since their “Queen of Rage” cover backfired is that Michele is a diva. Before jumping to any conclusions, I’d like to see genuine evidence. With Obama that was easy - everything he said and did confirmed that he was an inept, hateful racist. With Bachmann, the media theme of the day once again seems unconnected to the reality that we see from her. She’s not my top choice, but I’m not going to rule her out based on something as unreliable as a news article.


6 posted on 08/15/2011 8:17:46 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Even if Bachmann has such a poor grasp of PR, surely the aides she has hired should have told her to get out of the bus and shake some hands with the Iowa voters. Are they afraid of her? There’s something amiss here.


7 posted on 08/15/2011 8:18:48 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Arec Barrwin

Who gives a crap? Poor Rick, maybe he can get some tissues from Vincente Fox?

Poor Sarah, big bad old Michele is stealin’ her thunder.

And then you declare Bachmann has no chance.

I don’t think the other two do either. And I am declaring that just like you did.


8 posted on 08/15/2011 8:21:16 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Arec Barrwin

Bachmann has been on the stage many times a day the past few weeks leading up to this poll and the Thursday debate. She could have been eating or resting or something else, too. I hate all this ‘gotcha’ BS that our GOP candidates have to deal with.

Not sure what the deal is with the lighting change, but I think that has more to do with one of these reasons than some sort of ‘snub’.


9 posted on 08/15/2011 8:23:49 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: kittymyrib

Yeah, the media is meddling. If Bachmann was so bad and had bad PR, it must not have been too bad. She won!


10 posted on 08/15/2011 8:25:50 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Arec Barrwin

First, Bachmann rips Palin for not being a “serious” candidate. And now, Bachmann sits in a bus rather than being seen with Perry. Give me a break. She has no chance of getting the nomination”

AGREED.

Palin went to 2 fund raisers for Bachmann in 2010, & now, Bachmann treats Sarah like a rejected sister-in-law.

Michelle is burning bridges she hasn’t even built yet.

She will NOT get the nomination.

IF the GOP is dumb enough to nominate her, she will NOT get my vote.

I don’t know who I will vote for, but I am building a strong list of who I will NOT VOTE FOR.

Bachmann & Romney are already there, & Ron Paul is about to be there, also. Paul seems too naive about the global threats we face to be sitting inside the Oval Office.


11 posted on 08/15/2011 8:26:24 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Arec Barrwin
Baloney!

Good for Michele!

Perry's a RINO! HE is the one with NO CHANCE of getting elected!

Perry's going to peel off a rubber mask, and you'll see George Bush grinning back at you.

You know: The same George Bush who

(1) REFUSED to enforce U.S. immigration laws in VIOLATION of his oath of office to uphold U.S. law!

(2) INCREASED entitlements!

(3) SPENT more of the working man and woman's hard earned money than any President since (fellow Texan!) Lyndon Johnson!


12 posted on 08/15/2011 8:29:25 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("This is the great eternal questione: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" --Ann Coulter)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Good for Bachmann.


13 posted on 08/15/2011 8:29:38 AM PDT by Augustinian monk (Don't vote for Perry the RINO)
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To: sickoflibs

No one here beats up on Bachmann. In some ways, she is her own worst enemy. Why would we want to voluntarily be subjected to a candidate’s PMS or pouting like a 14 year old?

On the other hand the Lady is very conservative and stands by her principles and would make a darn great Senator from Minnesota.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 8:37:15 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Arec Barrwin

She didn’t have a chance before she acted this way, but these reports make me feel better about it.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 8:39:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Arec Barrwin

Oh, the horror!!!


16 posted on 08/15/2011 8:42:41 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Savage Beast

I had the TV on on Saturday. My husband was in another room and swore he heard GWB.

I said “wrong, but you’re close”. LOL


17 posted on 08/15/2011 8:42:52 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Arec Barrwin

I can’t imagine any US paper giving so much attention to a British election. Why are they so obsessed with our culture?


18 posted on 08/15/2011 8:46:06 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I never heard anything about Bachmann ripping Palin for not being a serious candidate? Are you sure, or did you ‘hear it somewhere?’

And this is overblown about her snubbing Perry. She probably didn’t toast him or light his cigarette but snub?

I like them both, but Perry is by far the best of the two as a presidential candidate.


19 posted on 08/15/2011 8:46:37 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: indylindy

A Texas accent is a plus in my book.


20 posted on 08/15/2011 8:48:47 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: altura

Plus he’s for comprehensive immigration reform. That Bachmann isn’t for any kind of amnesty.

Perry signed the Dream Act, Texas style. A great article appeared in the NY Times touting it.


21 posted on 08/15/2011 8:48:48 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Arec Barrwin
First, Bachmann rips Palin for not being a "serious" candidate

When you cannot even get the most basic facts correct, one has to suspect you are emoting, not thinking. Sorry you hate Bachmann, get over it.

22 posted on 08/15/2011 8:52:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I would say that was a smart move on her part,That Texas RINO has nothing to offer.


23 posted on 08/15/2011 8:53:50 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Savage Beast

Bachmann is the RINO, not Perry.

1. Perry has an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association
2. Perry signed castle doctrine legislation, enhancing a person’s legal right to use deadly force in self defense against an intruder within one’s place of residence.
3. Perry set a record in the 2001 legislative session for the use of the veto: he rejected legislation a total of 82 times, more than any other governor in any single legislative session in the history of the state since Reconstruction.
4. In May 2011, Perry signed a “Mandatory Ultrasound Bill” which stipulates that, prior to every abortion, the abortion practitioner or a certified sonographer must perform a sonogram before any sedative or anesthesia is administered.
5. Also in 2011, Perry signed a bill that prohibited taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood.

Now you tell me, of the 5 issues I named above, what do you disagree with?


24 posted on 08/15/2011 8:53:50 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: ridesthemiles
First, Bachmann rips Palin for not being a "serious" candidate

When you cannot even get the most basic facts correct, one has to suspect you are emoting, not thinking.

Sorry you hate Bachmann, get over it.

25 posted on 08/15/2011 8:54:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Comparative Advantage

There seem to be 3 things that people are ticked at Perry about:

1) the super highway. I thought it was a decent idea. We need the road, we can’t afford to build it, a foreign company will do so on condition they get the tolls. So??? No one has to use it and it’s business that they get their money back.

2) the Gardisal horror. Perry got a little over-enthusiastic on that one, probably because of his wife. Maybe he ‘submits’ to her. (try that one, CNN). But it’s not as though Gardisal is a bad thing — it’s still recommended. And it’s not as though this was the first vaccine required for public school attendance.

3) The Border. This is more of a toughie to me. Perry knows where he is, at least now. Texas is rife with Mexicans; you can’t stay popular and be too negative about border stuff. Politics,you say? Well, yeah. I have a feeling he will be much more tough on border issues on a national stage and what does he have to lose. He’s already governor and he can’t be governor of Texas forever — or can he?


26 posted on 08/15/2011 8:56:22 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: Comparative Advantage
Back in the 1950’s under Eisenhower they instituted “Operation Wetback”, did not make this up.
It was designed to round up as many illegal Mexicans as possible to send them back. Ike wanted war veterans to have first crack at jobs, any jobs, and felt illegals needed to be sent back.
Now tell me again why we allow unfettered illegal immigration from Mexico????????????
27 posted on 08/15/2011 8:56:51 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Arec Barrwin; ridesthemiles
"She cannot get the nomination"

In which case why are you wasting time and bandwidth coming here to trash talk her?

28 posted on 08/15/2011 8:57:17 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: dusttoyou
RE :”No one here beats up on Bachmann. In some ways, she is her own worst enemy. Why would we want to voluntarily be subjected to a candidate’s PMS or pouting like a 14 year old?....On the other hand the Lady is very conservative and stands by her principles and would make a darn great Senator from Minnesota.”

I see Bachmann going on NBC MTP and other shows taking the MSM on face to face, even when insulted she takes them on again fearless. She has got guts and strength to do that. The Sharon Angle strategy of hiding from the MSM to avoid questions didnt work out too well for her, or us.

Since Perry is in the title of this thread, he is looking more and more RINO every-day.

29 posted on 08/15/2011 9:00:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Arec Barrwin
"Bachmann is the RINO, not Perry. 1. Perry has an A+ rating from the National Rifle Association 2. Perry signed castle doctrine legislation, enhancing a person’s legal right to use deadly force in self defense against an intruder within one’s place of residence. 3. Perry set a record in the 2001 legislative session for the use of the veto: he rejected legislation a total of 82 times, more than any other governor in any single legislative session in the history of the state since Reconstruction. 4. In May 2011, Perry signed a “Mandatory Ultrasound Bill” which stipulates that, prior to every abortion, the abortion practitioner or a certified sonographer must perform a sonogram before any sedative or anesthesia is administered. 5. Also in 2011, Perry signed a bill that prohibited taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood. Now you tell me, of the 5 issues I named above, what do you disagree with?"

Should I laugh???

How about the Dream act.

How about Helping Muzzies build a Mosque/Muslim statehouse.

How about his Hate crimes Laws?

I see RINO!!!

30 posted on 08/15/2011 9:01:14 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Did you ever think that maybe she had a headache, thats why she stayed in the bus until the last minute?


31 posted on 08/15/2011 9:01:58 AM PDT by mickie
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To: sickoflibs

1. Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue.

2. Perry opposes regulation of greenhouse gas emissions because he says it would have “devastating implications” for the Texas economy and energy industry.

3. In 2003, Perry called three consecutive special legislative sessions to procure a congressional redistricting plan he said would be more reflective of the state’s population. The plan finally adopted—supported by then U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Sugar Land—brought about a five-seat Republican gain in the delegation.

Again, what do you disagree with?


32 posted on 08/15/2011 9:06:09 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Cheetahcat

You’re wrong. Bachmann is by far and away more liberal than Perry. It’s not even close.

Did you know that Bachmann signed on to Obama’s renewal of the Patriot Act this year? What was that about?


33 posted on 08/15/2011 9:07:45 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Cheetahcat

Why don’t you answer my question - do you oppose the NRA or favor abortion rights?


34 posted on 08/15/2011 9:09:58 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin
You’re wrong. Bachmann is by far and away more liberal than Perry. It’s not even close.

Oh man, the moon battery here on the FR is getting hilarious. I have come do the conclusion that Conservatives by and large are no different than Progressives, they both want to hide their eyes from and disreguard the truth. Honestly, the FR is in full emotional meltdown mode over these candidates, the most stupidists, ya, I say stupidists things are being stated about candidates.
35 posted on 08/15/2011 9:10:27 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: thefactor
Great argument. The fact is this article is sloppily written and a lot of people are reacting emotionally.

Let me ask you a question. Let's assume you carry concealed. Now let's say you were in this store as this group entered and began removing property and walking out. Would you be justified in opening fire?

Of course not. Your life was never in any real danger. Yet people here are equating this incident with Wisconsin and Philly. Emotional responses. The law, however, sees these types of incidents differently. IMHO, the law is not 'pathetic', as you put it.

36 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:48 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Arec Barrwin; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne
RE :”Again, what do you disagree with(Perry on) ?

Try : Governor of Texas Signs a Hate Crimes Bill

Not to mention his Dream Act giving college tuition discounts to illegals, even Maryland RINOs are fighting that one. And he came out publically in opposition to the Arizona Immigration law, bad news.

37 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: thefactor

Wow. Wrong thread. How did that happen?


38 posted on 08/15/2011 9:18:39 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: kittymyrib

You’re correct, there is something amiss. This behavior is not consistent with the Bachmann we’ve seen this past two years or so.

Nor is it consistent with the caucus result—she won.

Unless other credible info surfaces I believe this “story” is a desperate lie perpetrated by Perry and the Onada propaganda organs.

I mean along comes Perry, concurrent with signing a Texas hate crimes bill (usually a demrat vehicle for silencing their opposition) saying he wants to run for Pres. as a conservative. It’s laughable and demonstrates his political elitest arrogance. How long has he been Texas governor?

Perry is the GOPs replacement for the extinguishing RINO Romney.


39 posted on 08/15/2011 9:19:11 AM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: Arec Barrwin

You go Bachmann, no one wants any flip flopper slung on them, flip him the bird for me.


40 posted on 08/15/2011 9:21:28 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Don’t fall for the media’s attempt to turn the nomination process into a stupid ass, drama-enhanced, reality show.


41 posted on 08/15/2011 9:22:33 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Scythian

Well, you can say this — Rick Perry has been Governor for 10 years and Michele Bachmann has been a legislator for quite a while as well. Their stands on issues are in the public record. And where both candidates have addressed an issue, their positions are almost identical. And if they are identical on most issues, my money’s on the candidate who has the better chance to win. And that candidate is Governor Perry.


42 posted on 08/15/2011 9:27:53 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Mr. K

Exactly.


43 posted on 08/15/2011 9:28:52 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

The thing forgotten in Pawlenty’s jabbing at Bachmann is that while he looked bad, she didn’t exactly look magnanimous either. I thought they were both hurt in the debate, but Tim more so.


44 posted on 08/15/2011 9:30:43 AM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: sickoflibs
Perry is just another ruthless politician lusting after the WH to get more power. He is neither conservative nor does he care about promoting a conservative agenda. Rick Perry is interested in getting elected and promoting Rick Perry. Substantively, nothing else matters to him.

All of us should be very concerned about Perry's ruthless drive to win. Perry's slyness and arch-politician ways are off-putting.

Perry’s carefully orchestrated plan to co-opt the Iowa caucuses without actually being one of the official candidates failed miserably.

Perry orchestrated the Perry For President drumbeat, as he laid low——at the last minute he made his move——Perry hoped to catapult to the top and make mincemeat out of the other candidates.

Iowans didn’t buy it.

Perry had a miserable showing——coming in at the back of the pack.

But Perry's calculated strategy also included announcing to the world he was "the winner" no matter where he stood in the final count.

45 posted on 08/15/2011 9:35:15 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Savage Beast
(2) INCREASED entitlements!

In an interview with Newsweek, Rick Perry affirmed his view that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid were all unconstitutional programs creating “a Ponzi scheme” that was bankrupting the government. That's exactly what a RINO would say, right? Just like GWB.

Perry has been governor of Texas for more than 10 years. Here's how Perry's Texas stacks up against the rest of the country on entitlements.

Yeah, he's a regular northeastern liberal. Sheesh. You need to stop making crap up about Perry.

SPENT more of the working man and woman's hard earned money than any President since (fellow Texan!) Lyndon Johnson!

Yet, on a per-capita basis, only Tennessee has a smaller state tax burden than Texas.

You'd better start getting your facts straight otherwise you might say more ridiculous things like you're going to sit out the election if and when Perry becomes the Republican Party nominee.

46 posted on 08/15/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Liz
RE :"All of us should be very concerned about Perry's ruthless drive to win. Perry's slyness and arch-politician ways are off-putting. Perry’s carefully orchestrated plan to co-opt the Iowa caucuses without actually being one of the official candidates failed miserably. Perry orchestrated the Perry For President drumbeat, as he laid low——at the last minute he made his move——Perry hoped to catapult to the top and make mincemeat out of the other candidates.... But Perry's calculated strategy also included announcing to the world he was "the winner" no matter where he stood in the final count"

Good analysis, it tears this post subject to bits.

47 posted on 08/15/2011 9:40:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: thefactor

Missing having a “Leader of the Free World” for the last 2½ years.


48 posted on 08/15/2011 9:41:23 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: sickoflibs

even when insulted she takes them on again fearless. She has got guts

Don’t be foolish, Bachmann gets in their face, not saying otherwise. Its the hiding from the voters, showing up LATE, rushing through a 3 minute speech, running off and making them wait until the lights are perfect, is what she does and THAT is not what she needs to do.

Then you top off with a foolish smear on Perry. Bad form.


49 posted on 08/15/2011 9:45:54 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; LMAO; indylindy; ...
Bachmann snubbing Perry at the Iowa Republican dinner effectively reinforced Iowans' disgust at Perry's arrogance----and his disdain for Iowa's role in the selection process.

Perry calculatedly orchestrated his plan to co-opt the Iowa caucuses by not actually being one of the official candidates.

Perry orchestrated the Perry For President drumbeat from afar, as he laid low——then at the last minute he made his move, announcing he was a candidate. Perry hoped that move would catapult to the top and make mincemeat out of the other candidates.

Iowans didn’t buy it.

Perry had a miserable showing——coming in at the back of the pack.

But Perry's calculated strategy also included announcing to the world he was "the winner" no matter where he stood in the final count.

Perry's ruthless drive to win.....his slyness and arch-politician ways just might do him in.

50 posted on 08/15/2011 9:48:51 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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